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Post by avid 2.0 on Aug 17, 2022 16:58:35 GMT -5
The Big 12 was the only conference in D1 last year to have all teams in the Top 100 in Pablo. Going into tournament selection - they had 5 of 9 teams with a Pablo in the Top 40 - and this doesn't include Kansas who ended up making the sweet 16. This % of T40 teams was similar to the B1G and PAC and way better than all the rest of the conferences. I believe they had the 2nd best out of conference w/l% - if I remember. The Big 12 did well with RPI because they were a good conference last year. As for doing an especially good job in playing the RPI game - no, this didn't really happen. They did well despite TCU and Oklahoma scheduling badly for the rest of the conference. Here was the Non Conference records for the B12 last year: Baylor 6-3 Iowa State 8-3 Kansas 8-3 Kansas State 9-2 Oklahoma 6-5 TCU 6-4 Texas 9-0 Texas Tech 10-3 West Virginia 11-1 The ACC was a conference that took full advantage in how their worst teams scheduled - and received the RPI dividends. I think the four new Big 12 schools probably were top 100 as well. BYU and UCF definitely. Houston and Cincinnati probably, though I'm not 100% sure. Yes. They were both almost top 50. 53 for Cincy and 58 for houston
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Aug 17, 2022 17:01:22 GMT -5
lol, so why not post it when it actually means something. posting meaningless data is silly just post "Hey guys, and gals, in 3 weeks I'll be posting RPI futures, so talk about it now and I'm not going to post a bunch of meaningless data!!" Because maybe this thread wasn’t meant for you? I enjoy watching the data take shape. Maybe that’s not entertainubg for you. You’re welcome to say so - like you’re doing here - but we all don’t see things the same way. There are a LOT of threads I never click on on this board. The subject matter isn’t interesting to me. Maybe you’ve found one of those for yourself here. Some people just don't like fun, I guess.
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 17, 2022 17:09:58 GMT -5
Because maybe this thread wasn’t meant for you? I enjoy watching the data take shape. Maybe that’s not entertainubg for you. You’re welcome to say so - like you’re doing here - but we all don’t see things the same way. There are a LOT of threads I never click on on this board. The subject matter isn’t interesting to me. Maybe you’ve found one of those for yourself here. I also really enjoy having this available and appreciate @bluepenguin putting it together and vballfan17 for keeping it going. Even before it becomes accurate it still is the best way i have of comparing SoS. For an underranked team like San Diego, it is still entertaining (at least for me) to look at the projected record, estimate how many more wins they would need to finish where you think they should, and figure out where those wins could come from. It is a fun toy to play with to tide us over until there are some real results in 10 days. Thank you for that.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 17, 2022 17:12:39 GMT -5
Because maybe this thread wasn’t meant for you? I enjoy watching the data take shape. Maybe that’s not entertainubg for you. You’re welcome to say so - like you’re doing here - but we all don’t see things the same way. There are a LOT of threads I never click on on this board. The subject matter isn’t interesting to me. Maybe you’ve found one of those for yourself here. Some people just don't like fun, I guess. this is fun! the subject matter is interesting. the data provided is meaningless I find the discussion interesting, I find the data useless and boring
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Post by slxpress on Aug 17, 2022 17:14:03 GMT -5
Because maybe this thread wasn’t meant for you? I enjoy watching the data take shape. Maybe that’s not entertainubg for you. You’re welcome to say so - like you’re doing here - but we all don’t see things the same way. There are a LOT of threads I never click on on this board. The subject matter isn’t interesting to me. Maybe you’ve found one of those for yourself here. I also really enjoy having this available and appreciate @bluepenguin putting it together and vballfan17 for keeping it going. Even before it becomes accurate it still is the best way i have of comparing SoS. For an underranked team like San Diego, it is still entertaining (at least for me) to look at the projected record, estimate how many more wins they would need to finish where you think they should, and figure out where those wins could come from. It is a fun toy to play with to tide us over until there are some real results in 10 days. Thank you for that. That's exactly it. Well said!
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Post by slxpress on Aug 17, 2022 17:15:42 GMT -5
Some people just don't like fun, I guess. this is fun! the subject matter is interesting. the data provided is meaningless I find the discussion interesting, I find the data useless and boring Well, keep checking in, because you'll likely have issues with it in the future, too. Many people do who don't look at it the way it's intended and want it to be something it's not.
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Aug 17, 2022 17:37:53 GMT -5
Some people just don't like fun, I guess. this is fun! the subject matter is interesting. the data provided is meaningless I find the discussion interesting, I find the data useless and boring I find your nitpicking useless and boring.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 17, 2022 18:49:58 GMT -5
this is fun! the subject matter is interesting. the data provided is meaningless I find the discussion interesting, I find the data useless and boring I find your nitpicking useless and boring. lol, think of it as quality control
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Aug 17, 2022 20:52:58 GMT -5
I find your nitpicking useless and boring. lol, think of it as quality control Feels more like a bug.
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Post by Fight On! on Aug 17, 2022 23:09:06 GMT -5
this doesn't even make sense to post and call it Futures, because it's not Futures....sorry not trying to be a downer, but it's all based on last years data, & futures requires current year data to actually project Futures in the current season, and the starting point is flawed because....it's last years data so for now it's 2021!!!. a better starting point unfortunately would be polls. it should be called Pastures or Bygones....to be more accurate....Futures in the Future Is it perfect, no? But it uses this year’s schedule, so it is Futures more than bygones.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 17, 2022 23:13:28 GMT -5
this doesn't even make sense to post and call it Futures, because it's not Futures....sorry not trying to be a downer, but it's all based on last years data, & futures requires current year data to actually project Futures in the current season, and the starting point is flawed because....it's last years data so for now it's 2021!!!. a better starting point unfortunately would be polls. it should be called Pastures or Bygones....to be more accurate....Futures in the Future Is it perfect, no? But it uses this year’s schedule, so it is Futures more than bygones. well, once it actually uses this years data it will be futures. this year's schedule is not performance data...but we are quibbling - it's premature until we get decent data this year as I said polls are better data than last year's RPI especially with 350 odd teams
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Post by Fight On! on Aug 17, 2022 23:57:20 GMT -5
vbfallfan17 is setting up the entire schedule in advance, so he can plug in the data each week as Pablo updates. Pablo’s data is going to be terrible until matches are played, and even then it takes time for it to become truly relevant. The reason 2023 isn’t being done is because the schedule isn’t done. Not to mention there’s no payoff for a year. I know you’re being silly but you’re also missing the point. This isn’t meant to have any relevancy right now. The fun for me is watching the numbers develop and the data become more robust as actual games are played. Once conference season starts it becomes a fun indicator - for me at least - regarding what teams need to do in terms of playing above expectations as predicted by Pablo to obtain an RPI that puts them in a different tier (4/16/64). That’s not fun for everyone, but it is for me. lol, so why not post it when it actually means something. posting meaningless data is silly just post "Hey guys, and gals, in 3 weeks I'll be posting RPI futures, so talk about it now and I'm not going to post a bunch of meaningless data!!" Why not just not read it and keep your trap shut if you aren’t interested?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 18, 2022 0:03:07 GMT -5
lol, so why not post it when it actually means something. posting meaningless data is silly just post "Hey guys, and gals, in 3 weeks I'll be posting RPI futures, so talk about it now and I'm not going to post a bunch of meaningless data!!" Why not just not read it and keep your trap shut if you aren’t interested? Wow, such vitriol! Chill on
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Post by Fight On! on Aug 18, 2022 0:04:45 GMT -5
Why not just not read it and keep your trap shut if you aren’t interested? Wow, such vitriol! Chill on Vitriol? Or reason.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 18, 2022 0:08:00 GMT -5
Wow, such vitriol! Chill on Vitriol? Or reason. Vitriol
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