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Post by gatorgirl on Sept 25, 2022 15:39:41 GMT -5
florida has got to dig more balls only 44 digs in 5 sets is appalling and combined that with 30 digs in 4 sets yesterday??? that’s just barely 8 digs a set and you’re not gonna win many matches like that Generally the better blocking team you are usually means you won’t have as many digs on the stat sheet, which can explain yesterday. Today? Nope. We definitely should have had more digs. |
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Post by trojansc on Sept 25, 2022 15:39:51 GMT -5
I actually think for some fans it makes it a lot cheaper and feasible to travel to road matches (or even home matches for that matter). Same accommodation, no travel inbetween matches, matches on back-back days with no off days. It's overall more economical, even for fans. Do SEC VB fans travel that much though? Are there enough fans that do this to make it worthwhile? I feel like I’m a solid fan of my team (Wisconsin), but I’ve only ever been to one road match, and that was a non-conference match at a small school. I kind of cleared this up in my above post, but, I'm not saying it should be done for visiting fans perspectives. But even for home matches for fans who live a few hours but want to make a trip, it's a lot cheaper and easier for back-to-back days particularly if you're not interested in a day off. The fact that some travel fan experience would be taken into logistically scheduling SEC Volleyball schedules is laughable, though. I was just offering my opinion on why some could prefer it this way. |
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Post by volleynerd on Sept 25, 2022 15:40:03 GMT -5
florida was about to be top 10….
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Post by ballvolley on Sept 25, 2022 15:41:32 GMT -5
The COVID schedule has to go.
Also, Florida is expected to take some lumps. They are very young, and I’m certain they will improve and be very tough by the end of the season. Their schedule favors them to win the SEC, but everyone will bring their best performance whether at FL or hosting them at home.
What’s most concerning is the lack of floor defense and that both middles combined for 21 attempts *total* in 5 sets. They desperately need a more balanced attack, and while Victoria has a lively arm, her hitting errors are too big a liability. Not sure why Mary won’t give Hendrickson more time since she burned the redshirt. But the fact that NO other left side option was used today is baffling.
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Post by gatorgirl on Sept 25, 2022 15:51:49 GMT -5
If you are traveling that much to support your team just by being a fan, and not because you’re just related to the players, I would imagine most would be able to afford the travel between the schools if you’re putting in that much effort to begin with. Also, pre-Covid, the schedule was setup where the games were at institutions closest together. So for example, a team that played Georgia on Friday would play Florida on Sunday. I am not aware of a big enough fan base that travels with any team/sport to justify the economical reasons behind this current setup. Just my two cents 🤷🏼♀️ The fan travel isn't what is 'justifying' the economic reasons behind the current setup. We know what is. It's the team travel, conferences save money on this setup. I'm just pointing out to you from some fans perspectives, how this travel schedule can be a better experience for fans, logistically AND financially. I pulled up the 2019 Florida schedule. That is not a fan friendly schedule for those who want to see multiple games in a weekend. There's a ton of Wednesday games, nothing back-to-back. There is only one road series that is a decent travel setup, which is going to Ole Miss and Miss St. on a Fri-Sun. Not arguing that this is how the setup should be. I'm just saying, as a fan, I could see why some would enjoy this setup. Seeing as you’re a Trojans fan I do want to explain that the SEC isn’t really short on money. I don’t mean that in an obnoxious way at all, it’s just what is true. Other SEC sports have gone back to pre-Covid scheduling, so I think it’s more than reasonable to expect volleyball to go back to it too. Even though you said you weren’t talking about the fan experience but still wanted to bring up the fan experience, again most fans are going to watch the away games on tv. If their favorite team is home, then they get to see two different teams from home. Travel doesn’t come into it at that point since being a Florida fan if I’m going I’ll stay in Gainesville that whole weekend. Or if I’m a Tennessee fan, I’ll stay in Knoxville that whole weekend. I also checked the 2019 schedule, and I’m not sure what’s so hard about it travel wise? The only series that stood out to me is going from Arkansas to TAMU, and TAMU is going to be a hike to get to no matter which way you try to figure out travel. Edit: I see you’re saying it’s a difficult schedule for fans to travel to each game if it’s a Friday/Sunday and a random Wednesday game setup. I think I’m getting confused by your points being either mostly for the fan experience or why the conference is sticking with the Covid like schedule. So, I’ll just stick with I think pre-Covid scheduling is better across the board and respect that you feel differently! 🤗 |
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Post by trojansc on Sept 25, 2022 16:12:34 GMT -5
Seeing as you’re a Trojans fan I do want to explain that the SEC isn’t really short on money. I don’t mean that in an obnoxious way at all, it’s just what is true. Other SEC sports have gone back to pre-Covid scheduling, so I think it’s more than reasonable to expect volleyball to go back to it too. Even though you said you weren’t talking about the fan experience but still wanted to bring up the fan experience, again most fans are going to watch the away games on tv. If their favorite team is home, then they get to see two different teams from home. Travel doesn’t come into it at that point since being a Florida fan if I’m going I’ll stay in Gainesville that whole weekend. Or if I’m a Tennessee fan, I’ll stay in Knoxville that whole weekend. I also checked the 2019 schedule, and I’m not sure what’s so hard about it travel wise? The only series that stood out to me is going from Arkansas to TAMU, and TAMU is going to be a hike to get to no matter which way you try to figure out travel. Edit: I see you’re saying it’s a difficult schedule for fans to travel to each game if it’s a Friday/Sunday and a random Wednesday game setup. I think I’m getting confused by your points being either mostly for the fan experience or why the conference is sticking with the Covid like schedule. So, I’ll just stick with I think pre-Covid scheduling is better across the board and respect that you feel differently! 🤗 Oh, but as a Trojan fan, my school is moving conference$ for a rea$on, so I understand the SEC money situation! I think you're confused in general. I literally am not making any argument on what the SEC should do re: scheduling and I'm not even saying I prefer back-to-back, I just pointed out a scenario of how I know why SOME people (not the majority by any means) would prefer this new back-to-back format from a travel and attending games standpoint when there are financial/logistic constraints. I don't necessarily feel different than you that pre-COVID scheduling is better overall. I actually think for competitive reasons, a double round-robin schedule is most fair, playing home and home series. That's not realistic in the SEC either, but, it's most 'fair' IMO. I will say I DID like the old Pac-10 scheduling, which was Fri-Sat nights generally but you didn't play the same teams on back-to-back nights. I wasn't crazy about Sunday morning games, though they have grown on me now. I know for student athletes, it could be argued either way (less time on the road, but more physical rest inbetween games) |
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Post by firedup on Sept 25, 2022 16:24:34 GMT -5
florida was about to be top 10…. Will drop at least 6 spots |
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Post by volleyballman3 on Sept 26, 2022 11:04:50 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but this is stupid. Florida with only 8 kills that set? Our back court has GOT to figure this passing thing out. We can do nothing without it. If our DSs can't get it together, I don't understand why Mary won't put ACF or Hendrickson in. They can't be any worse than what is currently happening. I actually attending both games this weekend, so I apologize for just now reading the message boards and replying. I think if UF tried another DS that could help with the Serve Receive and all around Passing issues we are seeing. Hoyle is just sitting on the bench or going in to serve for Kelly and coming right out when the serve is lost. As all of you are well aware, when you do this you ruin any chance of making a sub to get another DS in to swing momentum or just giving the team another line up to have to deal with when things are going wrong. I know Mary has way more coaching experience than I do but there are a lot of things I just do not understand. I saw Dave make multiple suggestions to Mary, dealing with the DSs, and Mary just brushes it off. Maybe the next 9 days things will come to light. I do not believe that the current line up is a long term solution. Having Merritt and Markova not even opposite of each other is not the best line up. Merritt needs to be OH2 and Markova, Hendrickson, or Victoria as the OH1 (depending on who is hitting the best during warmups and other factors). Also that could be reversed depending on what rotation you want to start in. When we have serve we are starting in Rotation 1 so having Merritt on the front Row for 3 rotations seems to be a better line up. You can put Henderickson, Victoria, Okammor, or Robinson on the RS. A lot can and needs to be changed. As it has been stated multiple times on this thread and others, there is just too much talent to have situations happened like we saw happen this weekend. Hopefully something changes for the Tennessee game. |
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Post by jomama on Sept 26, 2022 11:52:53 GMT -5
It is a combination of all elements - passing, setting (location, tempo, choices), attacking, blocking, and defense. There were a lot of passes off the net that setting made the play. There were also plenty of passes on target that led to a low set or an attack error. The front line is typically bigger than the opponent’s so why are there consistent holes in the block (are serves tough enough - in fact, at what point are serves looking like free balls versus ones that have a lot of movement)?
There is certainly a lot of talent on the roster. Does that talent appear in practice every day? Love to be a fly on the wall during practices. Does the staff stick to players - history says yes. I haven’t seen a change in the L jersey in three season (actually even longer if you go back through team history). Prior to this season the OHs hasn’t changed, even when passing and defense was worse than this season.
There are a lot of players at most positions. Prove it in practice, repeatedly, and maybe they get a shot. Encourage the young adult to talk to their position coach.
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Post by gatorgirl on Sept 26, 2022 14:08:47 GMT -5
It is a combination of all elements - passing, setting (location, tempo, choices), attacking, blocking, and defense. There were a lot of passes off the net that setting made the play. There were also plenty of passes on target that led to a low set or an attack error. The front line is typically bigger than the opponent’s so why are there consistent holes in the block (are serves tough enough - in fact, at what point are serves looking like free balls versus ones that have a lot of movement)? There is certainly a lot of talent on the roster. Does that talent appear in practice every day? Love to be a fly on the wall during practices. Does the staff stick to players - history says yes. I haven’t seen a change in the L jersey in three season (actually even longer if you go back through team history). Prior to this season the OHs hasn’t changed, even when passing and defense was worse than this season. There are a lot of players at most positions. Prove it in practice, repeatedly, and maybe they get a shot. Encourage the young adult to talk to their position coach. I will say this year is the first year in a while that I can remember passing being such an issue. We’ve usually always had at least an OH1 who plays 6 rotations and done well offensively/defensively. The OH2 spot has been Florida’s Achilles heel for whatever reason, but past seasons that spot usually just lacks in offense but made up for it with serve receive/defense. Hall/Ceasar were the first OH1/2 duo that were solid all the way around for the first time in a long time that I can think of. I also don’t have an issue with our libero choices the last few seasons, including Elli currently. But that could just be me. I do agree changes need to be made, preferably starting with Beason as OH1 playing 6 rotations and Markova being OH2 playing 3. The other OH’s shouldn’t even be considered unless Markova is having an off game (pending C. Hendrickson level of play if she even gets the chance, fingers crossed she does 😅). |
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Post by dcromuf on Sept 26, 2022 15:34:26 GMT -5
florida was about to be top 10…. Will drop at least 6 spots Thankful that that did not happen. |
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Post by firedup on Sept 26, 2022 16:06:07 GMT -5
florida was about to be top 10…. Will drop at least 6 spots Wrong again. Thankfully. |
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Post by GatorsChomp on Sept 29, 2022 6:20:48 GMT -5
I wonder if Carolina is going to play like this against Kentucky/LSU or if it's just them wanting to beat Florida I feel like the Gamecocks o ly play like this against Florida at home 😂 GA beats Carolina 3-2 in Athens, you were so right king |
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