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Post by dbro1970 on Jul 7, 2023 0:56:08 GMT -5
Why is the challenge card green? Do they not want it to look like the coach is giving the ref a yellow card? Interestingly, in international play, they do not have a challenge card. They just make a C with their fingers and say challenge to the first referee.
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Post by vbman100 on Jul 7, 2023 16:50:18 GMT -5
Why is the challenge card green? Do they not want it to look like the coach is giving the ref a yellow card? Interestingly, in international play, they do not have a challenge card. They just make a C with their fingers and say challenge to the first referee. Do they have to say "challenge" in the appropriate language of the first referee? Or can they say it to the R2, in the appropriate language? Or is "challenge" the FIVB accepted term? What if they say "I challonge" in a British or "Je Suis challonge" in a French accent?
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 7, 2023 16:58:55 GMT -5
Interestingly, in international play, they do not have a challenge card. They just make a C with their fingers and say challenge to the first referee. Do they have to say "challenge" in the appropriate language of the first referee? Or can they say it to the R2, in the appropriate language? Or is "challenge" the FIVB accepted term? What if they say "I challonge" in a British or "Je Suis challonge" in a French accent? I think they should just have a glove that they can use to slap the face of the ref.
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Post by luckydawg on Jul 7, 2023 19:06:18 GMT -5
Do they have to say "challenge" in the appropriate language of the first referee? Or can they say it to the R2, in the appropriate language? Or is "challenge" the FIVB accepted term? What if they say "I challonge" in a British or "Je Suis challonge" in a French accent? I think they should just have a glove that they can use to slap the face of the ref. But what if the coach just wants a video review, not a duel?
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 7, 2023 19:16:07 GMT -5
I think they should just have a glove that they can use to slap the face of the ref. But what if the coach just wants a video review, not a duel? Well, I suppose then they could just use the hand sign: fist clenched with the middle finder extended, accompanied by the words, "I respectfully disagree with that call and request a video review".
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 1, 2023 13:46:13 GMT -5
I think I must've been away when this thread was active.
I have LOTS of dumb volleyball questions, some of which may have already been asked (by me) in another thread. But I've already forgotten the answers.
My list of questions is partial because I have to go out now to grab a $4.99 sandwich...somewhere.
1. When volleyball players do their "step out" (aka slide) move, do they ever trip over themselves as one leg crosses over the other leg?
2. If a player is simply bumping the ball over the net just to keep it in play and it incredibly lands as a kill, does it count as an attack attempt + kill? What if the player simply bumps it over and it doesn't land as a kill? Does it count as an attack attempt?
3. When a player dives hand and head first toward a ball to make a fantastic dig but they do it without the recommended "judo roll" move, how is it possible they're not all breaking their jaws as they land on the court?
4. How are the outside hitters not hitting the net posts each and every time during an attack attempt?
5. Do the players swear on the court? If so, do the refs admonish them?
I'll have more questions later after my sandwich.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 1, 2023 15:10:37 GMT -5
More questions:
6. Do the refs get reserved parking spaces on match day?
7. Do the refs get their own locker room where they can stow their belongings? Change clothes?
8. Do the coaches have their own locker room or do they simply share one with their players?
9. Is it safe to assume the home institution is responsible for providing the volleyball nets, balls, and antennas?
10 What about ref equipment like whistles, flags, red/yellow cards, and little notepads? Are the refs responsible for those? If so, what if they forget to bring them?
11. How much do refs get paid?
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Post by Norah Sus on Aug 1, 2023 16:40:09 GMT -5
I think I must've been away when this thread was active. I have LOTS of dumb volleyball questions, some of which may have already been asked (by me) in another thread. But I've already forgotten the answers. My list of questions is partial because I have to go out now to grab a $4.99 sandwich...somewhere. 1. When volleyball players do their "step out" (aka slide) move, do they ever trip over themselves as one leg crosses over the other leg? 2. If a player is simply bumping the ball over the net just to keep it in play and it incredibly lands as a kill, does it count as an attack attempt + kill? What if the player simply bumps it over and it doesn't land as a kill? Does it count as an attack attempt? 3. When a player dives hand and head first toward a ball to make a fantastic dig but they do it without the recommended "judo roll" move, how is it possible they're not all breaking their jaws as they land on the court? 4. How are the outside hitters not hitting the net posts each and every time during an attack attempt? 5. Do the players swear on the court? If so, do the refs admonish them? I'll have more questions later after my sandwich. 1. Middles who run the slide only have one leg. 2. It’s listed on every stat sheet I’ve ever seen as a ‘complete failure by the other team.’ 3. Similar to question 1 - by law, those you see doing the dive this way have had their lower mandible surgically extracted so as to prevent injury. 4. Modern net posts move back and forth as needed to accommodate the pin hitters. Before this technology, if you ran into the post you had to abruptly exit the arena. 5. No swearing in the NCAA; in the US, we don’t develop those words until after college.
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Post by abacaxi on Aug 1, 2023 16:48:20 GMT -5
More questions: 6. Do the refs get reserved parking spaces on match day? 7. Do the refs get their own locker room where they can stow their belongings? Change clothes? 8. Do the coaches have their own locker room or do they simply share one with their players? 9. Is it safe to assume the home institution is responsible for providing the volleyball nets, balls, and antennas? 10 What about ref equipment like whistles, flags, red/yellow cards, and little notepads? Are the refs responsible for those? If so, what if they forget to bring them? 11. How much do refs get paid? 6. The refs get reserved parking stalls outside Stan Sherif Center. 7. Believe that they have access to a dressing room at the Stan Sherif Center because I've seen them arrive in street clothes. Don't know whether its a dedicated dressing room.
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Post by rogero1 on Aug 1, 2023 17:54:37 GMT -5
More questions: 6. Do the refs get reserved parking spaces on match day? 7. Do the refs get their own locker room where they can stow their belongings? Change clothes? 8. Do the coaches have their own locker room or do they simply share one with their players? 9. Is it safe to assume the home institution is responsible for providing the volleyball nets, balls, and antennas? 10 What about ref equipment like whistles, flags, red/yellow cards, and little notepads? Are the refs responsible for those? If so, what if they forget to bring them? 11. How much do refs get paid? 6. Depends on the school & conference. Some schools have designated parking area for the officials, others recommend an area to park. 7. Again, depends on the school. I’ve changed in a public restroom to a separate official’s locker room by gender. 8. Again, depends on the school. As a college coach, I’ve experienced both sides. 9. Yes. 10. Refs bring their own equipment. Would you want to use a whistle that someone else had in their mouth? If they forget to bring them, they usually borrow them from their partner. 11. Again, depends on the school, conference, and division. Anywhere from $100/match to less than $500/match depending on the level. Line judges get about 20-30% of the referees fee. FIVB events pay less than $50/match. The premise is that you are there for the honor of working the event.
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Post by joetrinsey on Aug 1, 2023 18:17:30 GMT -5
Interestingly, in international play, they do not have a challenge card. They just make a C with their fingers and say challenge to the first referee. Do they have to say "challenge" in the appropriate language of the first referee? Or can they say it to the R2, in the appropriate language? Or is "challenge" the FIVB accepted term? What if they say "I challonge" in a British or "Je Suis challonge" in a French accent? Eh, a challenge rarely comes out of the blue. A tight call happens and the coach immediately moves toward the ref and signals (make a square like a screen with your 2 index fingers) or else glances back and forth between the bench like “eh…. Should we?” There’s also a tablet on the bench which you indicate what you’re challenging. But the ref will confirm with the head coach. So if the assistant screws it up the ref should, in theory, overrule what’s on the tablet. (Source: have been an assistant and pushed something on the tablet other than what the head coach wanted to challenge. Ref checked what the head coach wanted, not what I pressed.) Also, volleyball terms are pretty universal language. Anybody involved in an FIVB match will understand “block touch” especially if there was possibly a block touch, and you make the hand signal for block touch.
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Post by joetrinsey on Aug 1, 2023 18:22:20 GMT -5
I think I must've been away when this thread was active. I have LOTS of dumb volleyball questions, some of which may have already been asked (by me) in another thread. But I've already forgotten the answers. My list of questions is partial because I have to go out now to grab a $4.99 sandwich...somewhere. 1. When volleyball players do their "step out" (aka slide) move, do they ever trip over themselves as one leg crosses over the other leg? 2. If a player is simply bumping the ball over the net just to keep it in play and it incredibly lands as a kill, does it count as an attack attempt + kill? What if the player simply bumps it over and it doesn't land as a kill? Does it count as an attack attempt? 3. When a player dives hand and head first toward a ball to make a fantastic dig but they do it without the recommended "judo roll" move, how is it possible they're not all breaking their jaws as they land on the court? 4. How are the outside hitters not hitting the net posts each and every time during an attack attempt? 5. Do the players swear on the court? If so, do the refs admonish them? I'll have more questions later after my sandwich. 1. Somewhere sometime a volleyball player has probably done anything stupid you can imagine. 2. Yes, no. 3. Players don’t roll much anymore that was more of an 80s or 90s fad. You see more of a sliding on the stomach lay-out move. Just keep your head up. Wood floors can get a little sticky if you’re sweaty. Teraflex floors are slidey-er. 4. You try not to set the ball that wide. And players do sometimes collide with them. 5. Yes. Not unless it’s directed at someone in an unsportsmanlike way.
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 1, 2023 18:24:59 GMT -5
Why do people not understand that approach touch matters more than physical height of a player?
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 1, 2023 18:48:42 GMT -5
Why do people not understand that approach touch matters more than physical height of a player? Hey!! I was going to post something similar: 12. What's the most important attribute of an outside hitter during an attack attempt? a. approach b. power of the hit c. jumping ability d. height
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 1, 2023 18:50:40 GMT -5
More questions:
13. Is "team chemistry" a myth?
14. All else being equal, which is "best" to have on your team:
a. an outside hitter who hits 0.250 in-system but 0.100 out-of-system b. an outside hitter who hits 0.225 in-system but 0.125 out-of-system c. an outside hitter who hits 0.200 in-system but 0.150 out-of-system d. an outside hitter who hits 0.175 in-system but 0.175 out-of-system
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