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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Oct 21, 2022 10:42:45 GMT -5
This needed a second thread? LMAO! |
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Post by rjaege on Oct 21, 2022 10:43:24 GMT -5
Because discussion is how we solve problems. The OP is asking a question of what rules people have had and how it has worked out. Shaming curiosity is bad. I’ll shame whatever the hell I want to, including the fact that you’re trying to defend “an old guy’s” curiosity into women’s locker rooms. Cheap shot. Nothing in here about locker room activities beyond a photo policy. I don't care what others do. It's not a curiosity thing. I also know some people see pictorial records as part of friend bonding. I don't begrudge that, to each his/her own. Just saying these digital pictorial records have a way of not staying private. MAYBE that's something worth considering. That's why I originated this thread. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Oct 21, 2022 10:51:59 GMT -5
Unfortunately compromising pics may get dispersed. You're saying "don't take pictures, and pictures won't get leaked". That's blaming them for taking the pictures. That's blaming the victims for the leak. Stop it! Since you keep coming back with the same exact response to every post, I will continue to ask you the same question. If one of the parents or woman are angry enough and feel that they were wronged, and decide to bring a lawsuit against one of the original picture takers for taking a non consensual picture of them completely nude in the background, or the school for negligence of a code of conduct or video device in the locker room, would you change your opinion? |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 21, 2022 10:52:08 GMT -5
You're saying "don't take pictures, and pictures won't get leaked". That's blaming them for taking the pictures. That's blaming the victims for the leak. Stop it! If you had a teenage daughter who was visiting Chicago, would you advise her to not walk the streets alone at 3am? Obviously it wouldn't be her fault if she got mugged. That doesn't mean there aren't ways to avoid being the victim of a crime. This is an insane comparison. Just saying |
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Post by sevb on Oct 21, 2022 10:53:08 GMT -5
There is no way that this situation doesnt lead to Admin/Staff/Athlete conversations about locker room behavior
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Post by moderndaycoach on Oct 21, 2022 10:55:34 GMT -5
I’ll shame whatever the hell I want to, including the fact that you’re trying to defend “an old guy’s” curiosity into women’s locker rooms. Cheap shot. Nothing in here about locker room activities beyond a photo policy. I don't care what others do. It's not a curiosity thing. I also know some people see pictorial records as part of friend bonding. I don't begrudge that, to each his/her own. Just saying these digital pictorial records have a way of not staying private. MAYBE that's something worth considering. That's why I originated this thread. I am having a super hard time how so many people have seemingly lost their common sense and logic to the PC culture that exists today. No one is shaming these woman for having fun and bonding taking these type of team photos when celebratory vibes were clearing running high, but rather the outcome of this decision to where now regardless if they were hacked or shared, they are out there and there are woman who are now completely exposed on the internet with their name above them that may not have ever consented to the original photos. |
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Post by rjaege on Oct 21, 2022 10:57:47 GMT -5
There is no way that this situation doesnt lead to Admin/Staff/Athlete conversations about locker room behavior Hopefully, and not just at WI. Thank you. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Oct 21, 2022 10:57:53 GMT -5
There is no way that this situation doesnt lead to Admin/Staff/Athlete conversations about locker room behavior Like I have said a few times, even if a code of conduct exists about this matter already, it would not surprise me in the least if there will be a mandatory conversation with compliance and the AD with every single athletic team at UW as well as other schools that see what happened and also make changes/have a reminder conversation about what can happen. The blatant disregard for the liability UW potentially faces is crazy. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Oct 21, 2022 11:01:19 GMT -5
What happens to the alum working in the vball sphere as coaches and commentators? It's 2022, people don't get fired for having their nudes hacked or leaked. Not true, you have teachers that can't afford to do the job they love and are turning to only fans sometimes not even selling nude photos, and having parents complain to the point they are losing their positions. And it most certainly can impact you being hired, or at the very least make you a topic of office gossip which could become wildly uncomfortable and make someone want to leave a job they might otherwise love. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 21, 2022 11:05:38 GMT -5
There is no way that this situation doesnt lead to Admin/Staff/Athlete conversations about locker room behavior Like I have said a few times, even if a code of conduct exists about this matter already, it would not surprise me in the least if there will be a mandatory conversation with compliance and the AD with every single athletic team at UW as well as other schools that see what happened and also make changes/have a reminder conversation about what can happen. The blatant disregard for the liability UW potentially faces is crazy. 100% and that is a conversation that I am sure has happened multiple times by both administration, and individual teams. Overall, just reading these comments I think there are a lot of people who are pretty out of touch as to how different these kids lives are from when most of us grew up. I have two great daughters who are both wonderful people and people with high values, having said that if I found out they were with friends having a good time flashing and taking pictures of it I would not be surprised in the least. These are young adults being young adults and someone not only took a photo but shared it with people they shouldn’t have. They did absolutely nothing wrong, and it’s sad and unfortunate that they had to learn the hard way about the dangers of taking photos, and how little regard people show in terms of sharing things that were not meant to be shared |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 21, 2022 11:09:43 GMT -5
There is no way that this situation doesnt lead to Admin/Staff/Athlete conversations about locker room behavior Like I have said a few times, even if a code of conduct exists about this matter already, it would not surprise me in the least if there will be a mandatory conversation with compliance and the AD with every single athletic team at UW as well as other schools that see what happened and also make changes/have a reminder conversation about what can happen. The blatant disregard for the liability UW potentially faces is crazy. UW has shown blatant disregard about potential liability? How so? You can not monitor and manage what athletes are doing at all times, and no amount of rules prevents people from not always exercising the best judgement. I am literally blown away by how serious people think these actions were, the only thing outrageous, serious or damaging is the fact someone shared and leaked pics. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Oct 21, 2022 11:17:50 GMT -5
Like I have said a few times, even if a code of conduct exists about this matter already, it would not surprise me in the least if there will be a mandatory conversation with compliance and the AD with every single athletic team at UW as well as other schools that see what happened and also make changes/have a reminder conversation about what can happen. The blatant disregard for the liability UW potentially faces is crazy. UW has shown blatant disregard about potential liability? How so? You can not monitor and manage what athletes are doing at all times, and no amount of rules prevents people from not always exercising the best judgement. I am literally blown away by how serious people think these actions were, the only thing outrageous, serious or damaging is the fact someone shared and leaked pics. You didn't read my post well enough or have been following then. I am speaking about the blatant disregard from posters here that are not taking into account the liability problem UW faces here, I guarantee they are not just saying oh shoot, these girls got exposed lets go get those people. While they have shown they in fact are doing that, they are also likely having internal conversations about their potential risk and exposure - people sue for anything now and UW is not out of the woods yet. |
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Post by rjaege on Oct 21, 2022 11:18:01 GMT -5
Like I have said a few times, even if a code of conduct exists about this matter already, it would not surprise me in the least if there will be a mandatory conversation with compliance and the AD with every single athletic team at UW as well as other schools that see what happened and also make changes/have a reminder conversation about what can happen. The blatant disregard for the liability UW potentially faces is crazy. 100% and that is a conversation that I am sure has happened multiple times by both administration, and individual teams. Overall, just reading these comments I think there are a lot of people who are pretty out of touch as to how different these kids lives are from when most of us grew up. I have two great daughters who are both wonderful people and people with high values, having said that if I found out they were with friends having a good time flashing and taking pictures of it I would not be surprised in the least. These are young adults being young adults and someone not only took a photo but shared it with people they shouldn’t have. They did absolutely nothing wrong, and it’s sad and unfortunate that they had to learn the hard way about the dangers of taking photos, and how little regard people show in terms of sharing things that were not meant to be shared Agree. I think the other aspect is peer pressure. If a young person objects to certain photos they maybe labeled a prude. Also objection does not prevent a reoccurrence. That's why a policy would help. A policy does not establish compliance, that is harder. But would establish boundaries to support a SA that wants privacy from photos in the locker room. |
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Post by jayj79 on Oct 21, 2022 11:19:58 GMT -5
If you had a teenage daughter who was visiting Chicago, would you advise her to not walk the streets alone at 3am? Obviously it wouldn't be her fault if she got mugged. That doesn't mean there aren't ways to avoid being the victim of a crime. You are blaming the victim. Stop it. or trying to prevent/reduce the occurrence of such instances in the future |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Oct 21, 2022 11:20:46 GMT -5
Like I have said a few times, even if a code of conduct exists about this matter already, it would not surprise me in the least if there will be a mandatory conversation with compliance and the AD with every single athletic team at UW as well as other schools that see what happened and also make changes/have a reminder conversation about what can happen. The blatant disregard for the liability UW potentially faces is crazy. 100% and that is a conversation that I am sure has happened multiple times by both administration, and individual teams. Overall, just reading these comments I think there are a lot of people who are pretty out of touch as to how different these kids lives are from when most of us grew up. I have two great daughters who are both wonderful people and people with high values, having said that if I found out they were with friends having a good time flashing and taking pictures of it I would not be surprised in the least. These are young adults being young adults and someone not only took a photo but shared it with people they shouldn’t have. They did absolutely nothing wrong, and it’s sad and unfortunate that they had to learn the hard way about the dangers of taking photos, and how little regard people show in terms of sharing things that were not meant to be shared Half and half, no one is blaming them for taking the pictures, being young adults, and having fun in 2022. The larger issue at hand is the liability UW now faces, and the fact that there are woman that may not have consented to a photo of them being taken considering they are in the background 100% nude and vulnerable with their name in big white letters above them for the internet to know exactly who they are and what they look like without any clothes on. |
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