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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 12:36:32 GMT -5
I don’t see anything that would make UW liable. Things we do not know. Here are a few. Did UW have a policy on photos in the locker room If so did they enforce the policy Did UW staff take the pics Did UW staff facilitate or set up a shared team file that included these pics If so what security measures were taken, including password protection, distribution and periodic changes But that's another topic. More interested in ways to prevent similar releases. I doubt any degree of IT security can assure that, but I'm not an expert on that. UW Staff take the pictures? Are you off your rocker? That's a bunch of wild speculation and now in two threads. Is this forum moderated? They should be merging threads so the X's and O's of volleyball can be still discussed in maim Wisconsin forum without having to see post upon post of the same regurgitated talking points on picture taking and locker room ettiquete. SMH |
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Post by OHVBKING on Oct 21, 2022 12:38:31 GMT -5
How many times does this stuff have to happen for people to learn if you don't want a compromising picture to be posted on the internet then don't put yourself in a situation where it could happen. I don't care this is a locker room of teammates. One of life's great lesson's, you can't trust everyone. These girls used poor judgement and now they are learning a life lesson.
Of course whoever posted this should be dealt with, but all female athletes will hopefully learn if you don't want your boobs posted online then don't let people take pictures of you topless.
Sorry if this seems insensitive, but I have two daughters and when we talked about this last night they both said Wisconsin players should only blame themselves...
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Post by rjaege on Oct 21, 2022 12:39:07 GMT -5
Suggesting ways to avoid becoming a victim is victim shaming/blaming? Yes. Do you have children? If so I feel for them. I definitely told my children how to avoid becoming a victim. They didn't always listen, but that's what kids do. This thread is not about blaming victims, it's about ways to avoid future victims. My paternal instincts coming out. |
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Post by jayj79 on Oct 21, 2022 12:40:49 GMT -5
Suggesting ways to avoid becoming a victim is victim shaming/blaming? Yes. someone just told me that I should wear a seatbelt while driving and a helmet while on the motorcycle. I'm being victim shamed! |
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Post by rjaege on Oct 21, 2022 12:41:19 GMT -5
How is it victim blaming to caution your child to avoid situations where the could get hurt? If a young woman walks alone at 3 am and gets mugged, of course it's not her fault. But I think that most parents want their children to avoid pain and suffering in the first place. The locker room should be a safe space for athletes. Period. And whoever leaked those photos is SO very wrong. But I don't think it's bad to remind young people that sometimes your actions have consequences you may not see coming and to consider those consequences before you act. None of those girls expected those photos to be public but now they are. And some of them, at least, are hurt because of it. You are saying "don't take the photos, and the photos won't get leaked". That is assigning "responsibility" - read "blame" - to the victims. Stop blaming the victims. The victims are the SA's photographed in compromising situations. How is telling others not to take those pics, victim shaming? |
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Post by coachdirector13 on Oct 21, 2022 12:42:01 GMT -5
It's not like we need to draw more attention to this than there already is. I cannot open anything Wisconsin without it being the subject to with it all. I want to read the match thoughts, what a team should do to be successful, all of that. The girls are more than likely embarrassed already from what they thought was a safe environment and are learning unfortunately how cruel and sick our world is. Which everyone making comments like that here are just adding to that obvious flame. It is not our job to set what was appropriate, consequential, all of it. We are not their parents or coaches. We are observers hiding behind anonymous accounts because we would be embarrassed if our actual name was attached to some of our own opinions on the situation.
Those very athletes, coaches, and parents are more than likely surfing this site at some point too. Get back to suggesting hot takes and predictions. Not policing people or bringing up constant notice to what has happened.
Be adults, move on.
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Post by andrewwmic on Oct 21, 2022 12:42:50 GMT -5
Because this helps…
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Oct 21, 2022 12:44:14 GMT -5
Sorry if this seems insensitive, but I have two daughters and when we talked about this last night they both said Wisconsin players should only blame themselves... I agree with your daughters. |
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Post by Kingsley on Oct 21, 2022 12:44:44 GMT -5
This needed a third thread?
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Post by moderndaycoach on Oct 21, 2022 12:47:04 GMT -5
It's not like we need to draw more attention to this than there already is. I cannot open anything Wisconsin without it being the subject to with it all. I want to read the match thoughts, what a team should do to be successful, all of that. The girls are more than likely embarrassed already from what they thought was a safe environment and are learning unfortunately how cruel and sick our world is. Which everyone making comments like that here are just adding to that obvious flame. It is not our job to set what was appropriate, consequential, all of it. We are not their parents or coaches. We are observers hiding behind anonymous accounts because we would be embarrassed if our actual name was attached to some of our own opinions on the situation. Those very athletes, coaches, and parents are more than likely surfing this site at some point too. Get back to suggesting hot takes and predictions. Not policing people or bringing up constant notice to what has happened. Be adults, move on. Congratulations, you have succeeded in accomplishing the exact opposite of what you were going for. |
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Oct 21, 2022 12:48:45 GMT -5
I get what he is trying to do.
I mean to be frank you cannot go on this page and see the other Wisconsin topics just search at the top. At least this post just surfaces at the top calling it all out.
But yeah, not sure this helps as much as you thought it would.
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Post by robtearle on Oct 21, 2022 12:50:24 GMT -5
How many times does this stuff have to happen for people to learn if you don't want a compromising picture to be posted on the internet then don't put yourself in a situation where it could happen. I don't care this is a locker room of teammates. One of life's great lesson's, you can't trust everyone. These girls used poor judgement and now they are learning a life lesson. Of course whoever posted this should be dealt with, but all female athletes will hopefully learn if you don't want your boobs posted online then don't let people take pictures of you topless. Sorry if this seems insensitive, but I have two daughters and when we talked about this last night they both said Wisconsin players should only blame themselves... You are saying "don't take the photos, and the photos won't get leaked". That is assigning "responsibility" - read "blame" - to the victims. Stop blaming the victims. THEY DID NOTHING WRONG! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 12:51:02 GMT -5
Is anyone moderating these threads? There’s now a second thread on the same topic. Can we please end this discussion of leaked nudes or get it moved to Over the Net or whatever that other board is called? The weirdos, creeps, and perverts can continue their “discourse” somewhere else. Maybe coordinate together to schedule a group therapy session or something. Agreed. I reported this post and said this issue needs to be merged into a 'megathread' so the haters, trolls,moralists and victim shamers can all pile on to their hearts content in a single thread. We will still keep seeing the same talking points repeated ad nauseum but will also allow the discussion of all the other intricacies relating to Wisconsin volleyball in the main Wisconsin forum without having to wear hip waders. |
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Post by robtearle on Oct 21, 2022 12:51:40 GMT -5
You are saying "don't take the photos, and the photos won't get leaked". That is assigning "responsibility" - read "blame" - to the victims. Stop blaming the victims. The victims are the SA's photographed in compromising situations. How is telling others not to take those pics, victim shaming? You are saying "don't take the photos, and the photos won't get leaked". That is assigning "responsibility" - read "blame" - to the victims. Stop blaming the victims. THEY DID NOTHING WRONG! |
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Post by volleynerd on Oct 21, 2022 12:51:43 GMT -5
can we like move on, and stop making so many threads about the issue?
I thought this was a volleyball thread not one for us to become investigators and figure out what went down pls? if y’all want to keep talking about it do it in the original thread or don’t do it at all. it’s not helping anybody
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