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Post by rjaege on Oct 21, 2022 21:04:47 GMT -5
Cheap shot. Nothing in here about locker room activities beyond a photo policy. I don't care what others do. It's not a curiosity thing. I also know some people see pictorial records as part of friend bonding. I don't begrudge that, to each his/her own. Just saying these digital pictorial records have a way of not staying private. MAYBE that's something worth considering. That's why I originated this thread. LOL thanks for the explanation - so let me then rephrase my response: I’m so glad you’re here to tell us that photos taken inside a locker room may not stay private! Wow, what. a. thought. I mean who would have *ever* realized this without you?! Whew. Close call, but we’re all good on the locker room photo stuff, y’all. Rjaege is just here to inform us all that not everyone’s data is safe online! 😮 Some define stupidity as keep doing the same thing and expecting it to not yield a disaster as it has repeatedly in the past. That might apply to you.
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Post by winesalot on Oct 21, 2022 21:09:04 GMT -5
And what if the leak was an accident? What if one of the girls accidentally sent a text to the wrong person? You should be able to take a photo with your friends and expect it to not fall into the wrong hands. But things happen and now this picture is out there. And regardless of what we say on this board, there are real people who are dealing with this and are hurt by it. So, no, I'm not blaming the victim. I am feeling sorry for some young women who were trying to have a little fun and are now having to deal with this crap. (Did you direct your response to the wrong person?) I read thru my first post...and then my second and looked for ambiguity. Pretty sure I was always speaking to you. You made some statements about victim blaming. Your posts came across as morally superior. Several other people in this thread simply stated that they would like to prevent young people from experiencing any harm, and you told us that whatever we said was victim blaming. I guess that I should not tell someone to look both ways before they cross the street bc if they are hit by a car, it's their fault...they were warned.
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Post by robtearle on Oct 21, 2022 21:20:19 GMT -5
(Did you direct your response to the wrong person?) I read thru my first post...and then my second and looked for ambiguity. Pretty sure I was always speaking to you. You made some statements about victim blaming. Your posts came across as morally superior. Several other people in this thread simply stated that they would like to prevent young people from experiencing any harm, and you told us that whatever we said was victim blaming. I guess that I should not tell someone to look both ways before they cross the street bc if they are hit by a car, it's their fault...they were warned. You've read something I wrote incorrectly, because I agree with everything you've said. Getting hit by a car accidentally would be, well, an accident. If the person was hit by a car intentionally, that would be a criminal act. And the victim of a criminal act is *never* at fault or in amy way responsible for that act. Whether the act is intentional hit-and-run, or date-rape, or having their private photos released. They are not responsible; they did nothing wrong.
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Post by winesalot on Oct 21, 2022 21:39:03 GMT -5
I read thru my first post...and then my second and looked for ambiguity. Pretty sure I was always speaking to you. You made some statements about victim blaming. Your posts came across as morally superior. Several other people in this thread simply stated that they would like to prevent young people from experiencing any harm, and you told us that whatever we said was victim blaming. I guess that I should not tell someone to look both ways before they cross the street bc if they are hit by a car, it's their fault...they were warned. You've read something I wrote incorrectly, because I agree with everything you've said. Getting hit by a car accidentally would be, well, an accident. If the person was hit by a car intentionally, that would be a criminal act. And the victim of a criminal act is *never* at fault or in amy way responsible for that act. Whether the act is intentional hit-and-run, or date-rape, or having their private photos released. They are not responsible; they did nothing wrong. And I agree with you 100% with that. Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I feel like a lot of other people here are making the same argument. I think most people aren't condemning these girls, but they are saying...maybe this is a way for a young woman to learn about human nature. You did nothing wrong, but you took a risk. Someone exploited that. And that sucks, but it happened. And these young women will learn more about risks/rewards
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Post by robtearle on Oct 21, 2022 21:45:45 GMT -5
You've read something I wrote incorrectly, because I agree with everything you've said. Getting hit by a car accidentally would be, well, an accident. If the person was hit by a car intentionally, that would be a criminal act. And the victim of a criminal act is *never* at fault or in amy way responsible for that act. Whether the act is intentional hit-and-run, or date-rape, or having their private photos released. They are not responsible; they did nothing wrong. And I agree with you 100% with that. Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I feel like a lot of other people here are making the same argument. I think most people aren't condemning these girls, but they are saying...maybe this is a way for a young woman to learn about human nature. You did nothing wrong, but you took a risk. Someone exploited that. And that sucks, but it happened. And these young women will learn more about risks/rewards I don't know about 'risk', and I surely don't think "accident". Photos don't get posted to Reddit, etc by 'accident'. That was an intentional act, and quite likely a criminal one. Saying they shouldn't "take the risk" is like saying the girl shouldn't go on a date; it's making them responsible in some measure for the criminal act that followed, and I STRONGLY disagree (as I'm sure you can tell).
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 21, 2022 22:24:03 GMT -5
TIL… That I, as an African American male, should be able to walk into a bar that has the Stars and Bars flag over the door, hit on the women there and not expect any altercation to happen. For my next feat I’m going to wear my all red track suit and see what the Crips are up to. I am free to make any decision I choose, but choices sometimes have consequences. That’s not victim blaming, that’s just a fact. I know. And the white folks from the suburbs shouldn’t go downtown for an evening out. When violent crime happens to them, they aren’t victims, their actions had consequences. You can put yourself in harm’s and be the victim of a crime. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. You can also not put yourself in harm’s way and avoid being the victim of a crime. But f you go to a Downtown bar that has had multiple shootings in the past, and you get shot, you shouldn’t be surprised.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 21, 2022 22:58:02 GMT -5
And I agree with you 100% with that. Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I feel like a lot of other people here are making the same argument. I think most people aren't condemning these girls, but they are saying...maybe this is a way for a young woman to learn about human nature. You did nothing wrong, but you took a risk. Someone exploited that. And that sucks, but it happened. And these young women will learn more about risks/rewards I don't know about 'risk', and I surely don't think "accident". Photos don't get posted to Reddit, etc by 'accident'. That was an intentional act, and quite likely a criminal one. Saying they shouldn't "take the risk" is like saying the girl shouldn't go on a date; it's making them responsible in some measure for the criminal act that followed, and I STRONGLY disagree (as I'm sure you can tell). A proud puppet of the MSM, and a broken record. That must suck.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 23:21:09 GMT -5
I don't know about 'risk', and I surely don't think "accident". Photos don't get posted to Reddit, etc by 'accident'. That was an intentional act, and quite likely a criminal one. Saying they shouldn't "take the risk" is like saying the girl shouldn't go on a date; it's making them responsible in some measure for the criminal act that followed, and I STRONGLY disagree (as I'm sure you can tell). A proud puppet of the MSM, and a broken record. That must suck. You sure are going to great lengths to shine the spotlight on the Wisconsin players eh? The only thing criminal that occurred Was by the slime that loaded the content to social media sites and the biggest douchebags are those that have viewed the content to such great lengths that they can give an entire accounting for scene, context, and activities contained therein.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 21, 2022 23:30:04 GMT -5
A proud puppet of the MSM, and a broken record. That must suck. You sure are going to great lengths to shine the spotlight on the Wisconsin players eh? The only thing criminal that occurred Was by the slime that loaded the content to social media sites and the biggest douchebags are those that have viewed the content to such great lengths that they can give an entire accounting for scene, context, and activities contained therein. No, just poking a little fun at a guy that can't do anything but blurt out a tired left wing buzz phrase in ALL CAPS continuously, like a mental patient. It's kind of amusing to me. Besides, I'm only over here up to my ears in the "off the net" crazies because you asked me so politely not to post any of this in the Wisconsin thread, and I complied. But if you are going to get after me either way, I guess I can take it back over there where I don't have to put up with quite so many overt left wing stereotypes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 23:47:28 GMT -5
You sure are going to great lengths to shine the spotlight on the Wisconsin players eh? The only thing criminal that occurred Was by the slime that loaded the content to social media sites and the biggest douchebags are those that have viewed the content to such great lengths that they can give an entire accounting for scene, context, and activities contained therein. No, just poking a little fun at a guy that can't do anything but blurt out a tired left wing buzz phrase in ALL CAPS continuously, like a mental patient. It's kind of amusing to me. Besides, I'm only over here up to my ears in the "off the net" crazies because you asked me so politely not to post any of this in the Wisconsin thread, and I complied. But if you are going to get after me either way, I guess I can take it back over there where I don't have to put up with quite so many overt left wing stereotypes. Maybe describing things as to great lengths was a little much. But I think you are on to something with the Off the Net forum though. But not as bad as when Hoolie was hemorrhaging crap all over the board. What frustrates me is that the media such as yardbarker -false headline and Daily Mail with their recent story... just adds to the feeding frenzy with the leak. One could say if the pictures/videos hadn't been taken we are not here today but the minds of teens through at least late twenties are COMPLETELY different then the comparable groups from my youth. Waiting for a volleyball game to begin you're all of a sudden seeing some random college kids acting like hyenas but its just an impromto tiktok video. The generation has a different view on nudity as well. It doesn't make them irresponsible or wrong and those with a supposed higher moral compass doesn't need to assign their value system onto these young ladies. Everyone should at least be able to agree that the person responsible for the leak deserves stiff punishment.
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Post by Mocha on Oct 22, 2022 0:38:35 GMT -5
I’m not sure this is helping. It’s like saying, “to those who didn’t know, there are naked pics out there, now go look for them.” 🙄
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Post by henry308 on Oct 22, 2022 4:05:38 GMT -5
A bunch of women showed their breasts in a photo which was obviously kind of a "women rule" photo. Pretty sure they don't give a %*$#. The only people who care are incels on the internet and pearl-clutching people on this board. Basically, who the !!!!###$$$!!!s cares? A common sense take? Are you sure you’re on the right board? These people clutch the pearls for a living. Bottom line, when you share pictures with each other like this eventually they’re going to get out. Not very smart people.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 22, 2022 11:19:43 GMT -5
A bunch of women showed their breasts in a photo which was obviously kind of a "women rule" photo. Pretty sure they don't give a %*$#. The only people who care are incels on the internet and pearl-clutching people on this board. Basically, who the !!!!###$$$!!!s cares? A common sense take? Are you sure you’re on the right board? These people clutch the pearls for a living. Bottom line, when you share pictures with each other like this eventually they’re going to get out. Not very smart people. Yeah, pretty much. And even if you put the person that did it through a wood chipper, it's not going to get those pictures off of the internet.
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Post by jayj79 on Oct 22, 2022 11:53:15 GMT -5
And even if you put the person that did it through a wood chipper, it's not going to get those pictures off of the internet. if you put the person/people who publically posted (and/or reposted) such pictures through a wood chipper: a) it would be fun! b) it would ever so slightly improve the gene pool c) it might make future scumbags think twice about doing that sort of thing in the future
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 22, 2022 12:20:56 GMT -5
And even if you put the person that did it through a wood chipper, it's not going to get those pictures off of the internet. if you put the person/people who publically posted (and/or reposted) such pictures through a wood chipper: a) it would be fun! b) it would ever so slightly improve the gene pool c) it might make future scumbags think twice about doing that sort of thing in the future d) it might lead someone to make a movie about it, extending the 15 minutes of fame
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