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Post by pull3 on Oct 24, 2022 10:46:09 GMT -5
I think for the first time in a long time Nebraska has the blocking edge which will be the difference in this game.
WI 3.19 B/S NE 2.85 B/S
NE has zero blocking edge.
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 24, 2022 11:09:50 GMT -5
I think for the first time in a long time Nebraska has the blocking edge which will be the difference in this game.
WI 3.19 B/S NE 2.85 B/S
NE has zero blocking edge.
Those stats are misleading. If you watch a match with Nebraska they get a ton of soft blocks and blocks that are dug. What that translates into is this stat: Opp hitting percentage Nebraska .119 Wisconsin .151 When teams keep getting balls blocked back but aren't down, the hitters start pressing and making mistakes, hence the significant difference in opp efficiency. Part of that is the back row, but compared to last year, Nebraska opp efficiency was .148 in 2021. And that's with Evans playing back right now for 3 rotations instead of Akana which is a significant down grade. It's the block that has lead directly to that improvemnt. Don't get so enamoured with blocks per set as the only measure of effectiveness of a block. |
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Post by milkmandan on Oct 24, 2022 11:14:59 GMT -5
Wisconsin's got great blocking and a little more firepower. Badgers in four on their home court.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 24, 2022 11:16:31 GMT -5
I don’t think there is a lot tactically to this match. Just load up the block on the outsides and serve well enough to slow down the badger middle and right side attack. Not that different to past years. There are no weird passing seams to exploit this year and you have to figure out your target on the night as each passer has good nights and bad. I think it will come down the execution of the setters, and the ability of the badgers to hold up the defense on their side of the net. So far, what I've seen of the passing, setting and defense of both teams suggests the huskers have the advantage. But the difference isn't as large as some make out. I also think the huskers have been more consistent. I have a feeling the badgers may pull out some more wrinkles. We’ll see. Wisconsin had the definitive blocking edge last year. Nebraska's block is significantly better this year than last due to the 6-2 (taking 5-10 Hames out of block) and having Allick/Hord in the middle instead of an undersized Caffey and Stivrins whose blocking was the weakest part of her game. This a a very different Nebraska team than last year when it comes to blocking. The offensive balance of Nebraska is also much much better than last year which puts a lot more stress on the block. I think for the first time in a long time Nebraska has the blocking edge which will be the difference in this game. I think your critiques of last years Nebraska squad are spot on. This year the badgers have also moved to a 6-2 and are currently getting more than 0.4 B/S more than Nebraska in conference play. UW is blocked about 0.2B/S more often. I think that the difference from a point scoring front is pretty negligible. What Nebraska is much better at from what I've seen is getting positive block touches to help their defense. When hitters attack high hands, the ball almost always seems to pop up in a way that the defenders can handle easily. That's where a lot of their defensive numbers come from, I'm guessing. UW will need the left sides to step up in a big way and pull the block to have any real chance. They will have to be patient and clever. It will help if UW can pass. |
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Post by knapplc on Oct 24, 2022 11:19:59 GMT -5
Wisconsin's got great blocking and a little more firepower. Badgers in four on their home court. I would not be surprised to see this. |
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Post by pull3 on Oct 24, 2022 11:23:31 GMT -5
WI 3.19 B/S NE 2.85 B/S
NE has zero blocking edge.
Those stats are misleading. If you watch a match with Nebraska they get a ton of soft blocks and blocks that are dug. What that translates into is this stat: Opp hitting percentage Nebraska .119 Wisconsin .151 When teams keep getting balls blocked back but aren't down, the hitters start pressing and making mistakes, hence the significant difference in opp efficiency. Part of that is the back row, but compared to last year, Nebraska opp efficiency was .148 in 2021. And that's with Evans playing back right now for 3 rotations instead of Akana which is a significant down grade. It's the block that has lead directly to that improvemnt. Don't get so enamoured with blocks per set as the only measure of effectiveness of a block. I think you are confused. NE is a better blocking team than last year team(which I agree) doesn't mean NE has blocking edge over WI. In fact WI improves in blocking too.
And block is block, H% is H%. They are only semi related.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Oct 24, 2022 11:24:08 GMT -5
Wisconsin's got great blocking and a little more firepower. Badgers in four on their home court.  |
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 24, 2022 11:29:10 GMT -5
Those stats are misleading. If you watch a match with Nebraska they get a ton of soft blocks and blocks that are dug. What that translates into is this stat: Opp hitting percentage Nebraska .119 Wisconsin .151 When teams keep getting balls blocked back but aren't down, the hitters start pressing and making mistakes, hence the significant difference in opp efficiency. Part of that is the back row, but compared to last year, Nebraska opp efficiency was .148 in 2021. And that's with Evans playing back right now for 3 rotations instead of Akana which is a significant down grade. It's the block that has lead directly to that improvemnt. Don't get so enamoured with blocks per set as the only measure of effectiveness of a block. I think you are confused. NE is a better blocking team than last year team(which I agree) doesn't mean NE has blocking edge over WI. In fact WI improves in blocking too.
Not confused at all. Nebraska block has Nebraska opponents hitting nearly 30 points lower than Wisconsin's block does against their opponents. Again, that difference has been directly due to the block, not the back row which is actually worse this year than last year. This is not a dig at Wisconsin's block. But Nebraska has a blocking edge based on hitting efficiency. |
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Post by jwvolley on Oct 24, 2022 11:34:20 GMT -5
Nebraska and Wisconsin are both having good blocking seasons. Wisconsin is averaging more stuffs.
Volleymetrics shows that they have the same exact block touch percentage and pretty much the same good block touch percentage as well. The noticeable difference is that Nebraska's block has an error rate of 22.5 whereas Wisconsin's has an error rate of 27
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 24, 2022 11:35:34 GMT -5
I think you are confused. NE is a better blocking team than last year team(which I agree) doesn't mean NE has blocking edge over WI. In fact WI improves in blocking too.
Not confused at all. Nebraska block has Nebraska opponents hitting nearly 30 points lower than Wisconsin's block does against their opponents. Again, that difference has been directly due to the block, not the back row which is actually worse this year than last year. This is not a dig at Wisconsin's block. But Nebraska has a blocking edge based on hitting efficiency. Hitting percentage and block are related, but blocking is certainly not the only contributing factor to hitting percentage. Floor defense contributes significantly to opponent hitting percentage. |
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 24, 2022 11:38:59 GMT -5
Wisconsin had the definitive blocking edge last year. Nebraska's block is significantly better this year than last due to the 6-2 (taking 5-10 Hames out of block) and having Allick/Hord in the middle instead of an undersized Caffey and Stivrins whose blocking was the weakest part of her game. This a a very different Nebraska team than last year when it comes to blocking. The offensive balance of Nebraska is also much much better than last year which puts a lot more stress on the block. I think for the first time in a long time Nebraska has the blocking edge which will be the difference in this game. I think your critiques of last years Nebraska squad are spot on. This year the badgers have also moved to a 6-2 and are currently getting more than 0.4 B/S more than Nebraska in conference play. UW is blocked about 0.2B/S more often. I think that the difference from a point scoring front is pretty negligible. What Nebraska is much better at from what I've seen is getting positive block touches to help their defense. When hitters attack high hands, the ball almost always seems to pop up in a way that the defenders can handle easily. That's where a lot of their defensive numbers come from, I'm guessing. UW will need the left sides to step up in a big way and pull the block to have any real chance. They will have to be patient and clever. It will help if UW can pass. I think for the same reason Wisconsin's block is also better than last year but they've only improved their opp hitting efficiency from .161 to .151. There's a tendency to think B/S is the ultimate block statistic but in many cases opp hitting efficiency shows the effectiveness of the block much better. Hitters start trying to find ways around the block when so many balls are getting positive touches off the block, and that leads to weak tips, roll shots, and errors that never even touch the block but are actually a direct result of the effectivceness of the block |
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 24, 2022 11:40:16 GMT -5
Nebraska and Wisconsin are both having good blocking seasons. Wisconsin is averaging more stuffs. Volleymetrics shows that they have the same exact block touch percentage and pretty much the same good block touch percentage as well. The noticeable difference is that Nebraska's block has an error rate of 22.5 whereas Wisconsin's has an error rate of 27 What does volleymetrics count as a good block touch? Are blocks back that are dug by the opponent counted or are they only counting soft blocks that stay on your side to transition into? |
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 24, 2022 11:41:17 GMT -5
Not confused at all. Nebraska block has Nebraska opponents hitting nearly 30 points lower than Wisconsin's block does against their opponents. Again, that difference has been directly due to the block, not the back row which is actually worse this year than last year. This is not a dig at Wisconsin's block. But Nebraska has a blocking edge based on hitting efficiency. Hitting percentage and block are related, but blocking is certainly not the only contributing factor to hitting percentage. Floor defense contributes significantly to opponent hitting percentage. Absolutely which is why I keep pointing out that Nebraska's back row is worse this year than last going from Akana for 3 rotations to Evans for 3 rotations with everyone else being the same. |
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Post by Kingsley on Oct 24, 2022 11:48:12 GMT -5
Hitting percentage and block are related, but blocking is certainly not the only contributing factor to hitting percentage. Floor defense contributes significantly to opponent hitting percentage. Absolutely which is why I keep pointing out that Nebraska's back row is worse this year than last going from Akana for 3 rotations to Evans for 3 rotations with everyone else being the same. Hey now, Wisconsin's backcourt is also worse! |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 24, 2022 11:49:24 GMT -5
Hitting percentage and block are related, but blocking is certainly not the only contributing factor to hitting percentage. Floor defense contributes significantly to opponent hitting percentage. Absolutely which is why I keep pointing out that Nebraska's back row is worse this year than last going from Akana for 3 rotations to Evans for 3 rotations with everyone else being the same. Worse as in they went fromridiculous to great. |
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