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Post by hipsterfilth on Feb 9, 2023 7:57:15 GMT -5
Some of these Oregon lineup speculation seems strange. IMO, Lewis will have to literally break her leg in pre-season to get beaten out on the RS.
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Post by GatorsChomp on Feb 9, 2023 9:45:15 GMT -5
After August Raskie and Ronika Stone, I was pretty uninterested in Oregon. Ofoegbu is the only reason I have even remote interest in speculating. ☺️ Ronika Stone was one of my all time favorite players to watch. It is a crime that Ulmer sent her off with a 9-20 record. An absolute crime. A crime that was, but at least she has the memory of being a Minnesota killer in all our hearts |
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Post by VTK on Feb 9, 2023 10:39:44 GMT -5
Pukis is WAY less offensive than she was at wsu. Which is weird because she had better passing and Oregon is the last place you’d think that would tell a setter to not be as aggressive Raskie's 6-0 offense isn't for everyone. 😂😂😂 She would go dump crazy at times and I loved it |
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 9, 2023 11:20:59 GMT -5
Some of these Oregon lineup speculation seems strange. IMO, Lewis will have to literally break her leg in pre-season to get beaten out on the RS. People on here at times, imo, seem to think that switching positions is easier than it actually is. Especially moving a middle to the pin or a pin to the middle. effectively blocking middle at a high level in the ncaa is incredibly hard and requires a ton of eye-work that pins simply dont have to use, it takes a lot of getting used to if its not something you've trained consistently. on the other hand, hitting from the pins is a huge adjustment for middles, who aren't as used to making adjustments in their approach / timing based off the set. middles are *usually* hitting basically the same few types of sets where the pins have to be a lot more creative and see more variety in the height/ speed/ location of their sets. of course it can be done, but some people think a pretty good MB is just gonna slide over, never having played the pin, and take a spot from a very solid option who is very comfortable on the pin is unlikely in majority of cases. could they have been better pins than lewis if they trained there for their entire careers? sure why not... but they haven't been training there |
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 9, 2023 12:06:18 GMT -5
Some of these Oregon lineup speculation seems strange. IMO, Lewis will have to literally break her leg in pre-season to get beaten out on the RS. People on here at times, imo, seem to think that switching positions is easier than it actually is. Especially moving a middle to the pin or a pin to the middle. effectively blocking middle at a high level in the ncaa is incredibly hard and requires a ton of eye-work that pins simply dont have to use, it takes a lot of getting used to if its not something you've trained consistently. on the other hand, hitting from the pins is a huge adjustment for middles, who aren't as used to making adjustments in their approach / timing based off the set. middles are *usually* hitting basically the same few types of sets where the pins have to be a lot more creative and see more variety in the height/ speed/ location of their sets. of course it can be done, but some people think a pretty good MB is just gonna slide over, never having played the pin, and take a spot from a very solid option who is very comfortable on the pin is unlikely in majority of cases. could they have been better pins than lewis if they trained there for their entire careers? sure why not... but they haven't been training there Please stop with this, I literally said a 3 middle offense which plenty of programs have ran/are running with success. Not to mention I made it clear I knew less than nothing about Morgan Lewis and if you saw how Ofoegbu was used at UCI, you wouldn’t write it off as a possibility. The things some of y’all choose to get hung up on baffles me sometimes lol |
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 9, 2023 12:12:56 GMT -5
People on here at times, imo, seem to think that switching positions is easier than it actually is. Especially moving a middle to the pin or a pin to the middle. effectively blocking middle at a high level in the ncaa is incredibly hard and requires a ton of eye-work that pins simply dont have to use, it takes a lot of getting used to if its not something you've trained consistently. on the other hand, hitting from the pins is a huge adjustment for middles, who aren't as used to making adjustments in their approach / timing based off the set. middles are *usually* hitting basically the same few types of sets where the pins have to be a lot more creative and see more variety in the height/ speed/ location of their sets. of course it can be done, but some people think a pretty good MB is just gonna slide over, never having played the pin, and take a spot from a very solid option who is very comfortable on the pin is unlikely in majority of cases. could they have been better pins than lewis if they trained there for their entire careers? sure why not... but they haven't been training there Please stop with this, I literally said a 3 middle offense which plenty of programs have ran/are running with success. Not to mention I made it clear I knew less than nothing about Morgan Lewis and if you saw how Ofoegbu was used at UCI, you wouldn’t write it off as a possibility. The things some of y’all choose to get hung up on baffles me sometimes lol I wasnt even referring directly to you, there's tons of posts all over in diff threads that talk about players moving positions. 3 middle offense is diff and doesnt require as much of a transition for the player as they're usually only hitting slides/ in system balls from the right side. I was just making post talking ab actual witching of positions entirely because a lot of people on here often think that is the solution for certain teams. it wasnt directed at you, just at the whole idea in general |
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Post by TayRey on Feb 9, 2023 12:44:48 GMT -5
Some of these Oregon lineup speculation seems strange. IMO, Lewis will have to literally break her leg in pre-season to get beaten out on the RS. I mean yes, Morgan played well in S16 and E8 but she was getting beat out for a reason. I think her success was due in part to the fact that she wasn't likely on the scouting report, especially after Mutiri was the go-to in rounds 1 and 2. Not to say that she isn't a phenomenal player but she will have to earn her spot just like everyone else. She tends to struggle a lot OOO and isn't very dynamic. She hits a HEAVY ball but doesn't adjust well and is one of those players who is super readable if you want enough of her film. Very much a straight down bash or a straight down stuff block situation. I always hold my breath with her when the set isn't perfect lol. That being said she has improved a lot in her time in Eugene and really took her role in stride when Glo was beating her out. I'm interested to see what the battle at OH will be like with Acevedo vs Gonzalez. Not to mention we also have Becca Kelley (Bre's sister who is at Florida) and Noemie Glover who look to be great incoming frosh. The speculation of Onye redshirting is interesting to me because her leadership would be so key if she played next year with Colby Neal and incoming '24 Mia Tvrdy. Ducks are looking strong this year and years to come. My only question mark is the setter position after Hannah + Elise graduate as we only have Cristin Cline who is coming in this year. |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Feb 9, 2023 13:07:18 GMT -5
Some of these Oregon lineup speculation seems strange. IMO, Lewis will have to literally break her leg in pre-season to get beaten out on the RS. I mean yes, Morgan played well in S16 and E8 but she was getting beat out for a reason. I think her success was due in part to the fact that she wasn't likely on the scouting report, especially after Mutiri was the go-to in rounds 1 and 2. Not to say that she isn't a phenomenal player but she will have to earn her spot just like everyone else. She tends to struggle a lot OOO and isn't very dynamic. She hits a HEAVY ball but doesn't adjust well and is one of those players who is super readable if you want enough of her film. Very much a straight down bash or a straight down stuff block situation. I always hold my breath with her when the set isn't perfect lol. That being said she has improved a lot in her time in Eugene and really took her role in stride when Glo was beating her out. I'm interested to see what the battle at OH will be like with Acevedo vs Gonzalez. Not to mention we also have Becca Kelley (Bre's sister who is at Florida) and Noemie Glover who look to be great incoming frosh. The speculation of Onye redshirting is interesting to me because her leadership would be so key if she played next year with Colby Neal and incoming '24 Mia Tvrdy. Ducks are looking strong this year and years to come. My only question mark is the setter position after Hannah + Elise graduate as we only have Cristin Cline who is coming in this year. Mutiri got pulled so often, it honestly felt to me like Ulmer was trying his best to make her last year in the program special. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 9, 2023 13:07:20 GMT -5
Some of these Oregon lineup speculation seems strange. IMO, Lewis will have to literally break her leg in pre-season to get beaten out on the RS. I mean yes, Morgan played well in S16 and E8 but she was getting beat out for a reason. I think her success was due in part to the fact that she wasn't likely on the scouting report, especially after Mutiri was the go-to in rounds 1 and 2. Not to say that she isn't a phenomenal player but she will have to earn her spot just like everyone else. She tends to struggle a lot OOO and isn't very dynamic. She hits a HEAVY ball but doesn't adjust well and is one of those players who is super readable if you want enough of her film. Very much a straight down bash or a straight down stuff block situation. I always hold my breath with her when the set isn't perfect lol. That being said she has improved a lot in her time in Eugene and really took her role in stride when Glo was beating her out. I'm interested to see what the battle at OH will be like with Acevedo vs Gonzalez. Not to mention we also have Becca Kelley (Bre's sister who is at Florida) and Noemie Glover who look to be great incoming frosh. The speculation of Onye redshirting is interesting to me because her leadership would be so key if she played next year with Colby Neal and incoming '24 Mia Tvrdy. Ducks are looking strong this year and years to come. My only question mark is the setter position after Hannah + Elise graduate as we only have Cristin Cline who is coming in this year. Most of Lewis' body of work is from when the setting was significantly weaker than it is with Pukis. She got beat out at opp but the disparity in playing time did not reflect how close it was. Lewis was a bit behind the 8-ball switching between left and right coming into the year, and Mutiri had some monster matches right when the lineup was falling into place. Lewis will do well next year, she's improved, the setting's improved, and she'll help toughen up the block (which will be important if passing/FBK drops a bit). She probably won't be able to sustain hitting .375 on the season like she did in regionals, but I'm not worried about the RS position next year. |
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Post by madden55 on Feb 9, 2023 13:08:28 GMT -5
I never really liked Gloria much. I felt like she had 0 heat
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 9, 2023 13:12:54 GMT -5
I never really liked Gloria much. I felt like she had 0 heat Mutiri was pretty good. She probably could have been a bit more aggressive OOS or with an imperfect set, but it also kept her errors low. When she was getting good looks and in rhythm on her approach, she could be hard to stop. Her blocking was very hot and cold though. I'm not dragging her. I'm just saying Lewis wasn't that far behind. They also gave very different looks which makes the apples-to-apples comparison tough - terminal v efficient, different tempos, different look on the block, etc. |
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Post by Fight On! on Feb 9, 2023 13:42:49 GMT -5
Take it to the Oregon thread, boys and girls.
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Post by madden55 on Feb 9, 2023 13:54:42 GMT -5
Take it to the Oregon thread, boys and girls. I mean I was thinking it was off topic but really is there anything left before May in terms of transfer portal tea anyway ? |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 9, 2023 14:01:49 GMT -5
If we want tea, who is Washington looking at out of the portal? They almost certainly have schollies to give and a need at least for depth - or are they just planning to refill internationally?
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Post by madden55 on Feb 9, 2023 14:21:13 GMT -5
If we want tea, who is Washington looking at out of the portal? They almost certainly have schollies to give and a need at least for depth - or are they just planning to refill internationally? maybe waiting till May |
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