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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 23, 2022 20:11:38 GMT -5
Sounds like Lauenstein is out or quitting volleyball. Coaches at the top programs are going to cherry pick the portal for the best available. This might scare away the top recruits in the future. Could open up schools out of the Top 10 to pick up better recruits. Or past top recruits will enter the portal. What’s better win a National Championship while riding the bench or playing 4 years??? Really depends on the player and what their goals are.
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Post by definitelymaybe on Dec 23, 2022 22:54:41 GMT -5
Sounds like Lauenstein is out or quitting volleyball. Coaches at the top programs are going to cherry pick the portal for the best available. This might scare away the top recruits in the future. Could open up schools out of the Top 10 to pick up better recruits. Or past top recruits will enter the portal. What’s better win a National Championship while riding the bench or playing 4 years??? Really depends on the player and what their goals are. If top recruits start getting replaced via the portal consistently, you'd think it would affect club relationships at some point. It certainly seems that if an athlete hasn't produced at a high level by year 2, the portal is in play for their position. Getting back to 12 scholarships in 25 will help though for a few select programs, transferring for a chance at a Natty will probably always be in play. |
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 23, 2022 23:23:35 GMT -5
Players at that level believe they will play. The fact it did not work for others will not deter them. Tamas has to figure out how to get them to Illinois. Telling them the Illinois locker room is better than the European locker rooms Poulter uses will not cut it. They are not choosing between Illinois and Italy - their choice is between Wisconsin or Nebraska versus Illinois.
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Post by Friday on Dec 23, 2022 23:24:35 GMT -5
Sounds like Lauenstein is out or quitting volleyball. Coaches at the top programs are going to cherry pick the portal for the best available. This might scare away the top recruits in the future. Could open up schools out of the Top 10 to pick up better recruits. Or past top recruits will enter the portal. What’s better win a National Championship while riding the bench or playing 4 years??? Really depends on the player and what their goals are. If top recruits start getting replaced via the portal consistently, you'd think it would affect club relationships at some point. It certainly seems that if an athlete hasn't produced at a high level by year 2, the portal is in play for their position. Getting back to 12 scholarships in 25 will help though for a few select programs, transferring for a chance at a Natty will probably always be in play. We are at 12 scholarships now. |
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Post by definitelymaybe on Dec 23, 2022 23:32:27 GMT -5
If top recruits start getting replaced via the portal consistently, you'd think it would affect club relationships at some point. It certainly seems that if an athlete hasn't produced at a high level by year 2, the portal is in play for their position. Getting back to 12 scholarships in 25 will help though for a few select programs, transferring for a chance at a Natty will probably always be in play. We are at 12 scholarships now. Plus the Covid year or am I missing something 🤔 |
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Post by Friday on Dec 23, 2022 23:35:18 GMT -5
We are at 12 scholarships now. Plus the Covid year or am I missing something 🤔 Last year 5th year covid seniors did not count against the 12 scholarships so teams could go over. That was last year only. Every school was back to 12 this year. So if a senior opted for a 5th year they either weren't on scholarship or they counted against the 12. |
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Post by pointillinois on Dec 23, 2022 23:42:58 GMT -5
This is my best guess:
Scholarships?
1. Terry
2. Barnes
3. Burbage
4. Sakoda (?)
5. Bingham
6. Mosher
7. Barry (?)
8. Bohm
9. de Boer
10. Dean
11. Stephenson
12.
No Scholarship?
1. Gregus
2. Imoto-Eakin
3. May
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 24, 2022 7:21:56 GMT -5
Barry signed a letter of intent, which is only signed in conjunction with a scholarship. Ceremonial “signings” are not really signings of a letter of intent. Occasionally a walk on is given an open scholarship, but those are given on a year to year basis. If I recall correctly Sakoda did not sign a letter of intent. If Collins returns there will be one open scholarship, if not there are two.
The school will work with players to help them find other scholarships for which they may qualify which may preserve athletic scholarship money for others. For example, Diana Brown may very well have qualified for academic scholarships to cover the cost of school. With NIL money available, there is another avenue of tuition assistance out there, but NIL money does not come directly from the school and the school theoretically is not supposed to coordinate paying NIL money to an athlete. In the revenue sports NIL money is part of the recruiting process. I would not be surprised to learn Nebraska, Wisconsin and perhaps Minnesota and tOSU have alums who come up with NIL money for volleyball players.
Does anyone on this board have a business in need of a spokeswoman?
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Post by pointillinois on Dec 24, 2022 8:22:33 GMT -5
The school will work with players to help them find other scholarships for which they may qualify which may preserve athletic scholarship money for others. For example, Diana Brown may very well have qualified for academic scholarships to cover the cost of school. With NIL money available, there is another avenue of tuition assistance out there, but NIL money does not come directly from the school and the school theoretically is not supposed to coordinate paying NIL money to an athlete. In the revenue sports NIL money is part of the recruiting process. I would not be surprised to learn Nebraska, Wisconsin and perhaps Minnesota and tOSU have alums who come up with NIL money for volleyball players. Does anyone on this board have a business in need of a spokeswoman? This was originally the case, but IL (and a handful of other states) passed a law that allows the school to coordinate with NIL collectives. This is why you see the "please donate to the collective" ads on the Huff video board. In fact, UIUC just started a new collective based in Chicago focusing on big money donors. The head of this collective left her job with DIA advancement to take the job. |
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 24, 2022 9:44:53 GMT -5
Thanks. My research skills are rusty and there is an element of laziness. For anyone interested Il HB 1175 is the Illinois statute. Interesting reading about structure and limitations of NIL in Illinois. With the school being permitted to fund an independent administrator of NIL money it appears to me scholarship limits are meaningless.
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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 24, 2022 10:50:23 GMT -5
Sakoda not on scholie so we have 2 open.
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Post by Friday on Dec 24, 2022 11:32:13 GMT -5
Barry signed a letter of intent, which is only signed in conjunction with a scholarship. Ceremonial “signings” are not really signings of a letter of intent. Occasionally a walk on is given an open scholarship, but those are given on a year to year basis. If I recall correctly Sakoda did not sign a letter of intent. If Collins returns there will be one open scholarship, if not there are two. The school will work with players to help them find other scholarships for which they may qualify which may preserve athletic scholarship money for others. For example, Diana Brown may very well have qualified for academic scholarships to cover the cost of school. With NIL money available, there is another avenue of tuition assistance out there, but NIL money does not come directly from the school and the school theoretically is not supposed to coordinate paying NIL money to an athlete. In the revenue sports NIL money is part of the recruiting process. I would not be surprised to learn Nebraska, Wisconsin and perhaps Minnesota and tOSU have alums who come up with NIL money for volleyball players. Does anyone on this board have a business in need of a spokeswoman? If you sign a NLI on signing day, it is not necessarily for 4 years. And conversely just because you don't sign one on signing day, doesn't mean you aren't getting money later on. Very few DS/Ls get 4 years - exception are the elite DS like Choboy or Rodriquez. My guess is Sakoda and Barry are getting some money but not a full 4 years. |
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 24, 2022 15:58:10 GMT -5
Question - if money is passed out by university paid administrators of NIL funds, what is the impact on Title IX? Are women’s sports going to fall victim to contributions that used to go to grants in aid and now go to NIL funds?
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Post by pointillinois on Dec 24, 2022 16:23:05 GMT -5
I believe the collectives and schools have to be separate, but they can coordinate. That's why Knight left the DIA and took the new collective job. She's not a university employee anymore even if she's doing the same job. Ultimately, the NIL money is unregulated so I doubt there is any Title IX issues. It will be interesting to see the IFund numbers over the next couple of years.
Now, if the athletes ever win their lawsuits and are reclassified as employees, I think you'll see some major Title IX issues. But that is probably years away from happening.
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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 24, 2022 23:01:52 GMT -5
Wishing all the ILLINI faithful on this thread a Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays. Excited for the next 8 months of comments & speculation.
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