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Post by exit237a on Oct 28, 2023 20:42:25 GMT -5
Wow! Michigan pulls the upset in 5 over PSU. It was actually Michigan State- Go Sparty!
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Post by ilalum92 on Oct 28, 2023 21:42:56 GMT -5
Ok schedule wise - if all goes to plan, we should finish 17-13 or 18-12. 18-12 should get us on the bubble for the tourney. It would include wins over IU, PUR & MINN.
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Post by ilalum92 on Oct 28, 2023 21:46:41 GMT -5
Ok schedule wise - if all goes to plan, we should finish 17-13 or 18-12. 18-12 should get us on the bubble for the tourney. It would include wins over IU, PUR & MINN. Would love to have had those USC & UCF wins instead of losses. We would be tourney bound.
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Post by maigrey on Oct 28, 2023 22:06:49 GMT -5
Huge win for us tonight and a great week. Beating IU & PUR should pull our RPI down to the 60-70 range. Need to beat who we should beat and win @ MINN or OSU. wow, I've had a cold and was feeling so terrible after the first set that I had to turn it off. I'm going to have to go rewatch it. Go Illini! [Or, Terraneans, for a bad joke]
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Post by VolleyballFella on Oct 28, 2023 22:18:23 GMT -5
Ok schedule wise - if all goes to plan, we should finish 17-13 or 18-12. 18-12 should get us on the bubble for the tourney. It would include wins over IU, PUR & MINN. I'm curious how you figure this? Even if Illinois gets to 18-12, the potential wins they have over the likes of Iowa and Michigan will DROP their RPI... not improve it. Illinois' RPI right now... with the Purdue win is 83. That is a VERY STEEP hill to climb to get to ~50. IMO Opinion, they would literally have to beat Nebraska and Wisconsin.... so basically win out. MAYBE just beat one of them and all the other matches to even be considered or close to 50 in RPI. There are a number of teams that will likely keep or climb the RPI that are in the 60's, 50's, and 40's now (including Wichita State... a team that beat Illinois). Sorry, I just don't see it.
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Post by photos1 on Oct 28, 2023 22:21:33 GMT -5
Happy for Tamas…
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Post by VolleyballFella on Oct 28, 2023 22:22:17 GMT -5
Huge win for us tonight and a great week. Beating IU & PUR should pull our RPI down to the 60-70 range. Need to beat who we should beat and win @ MINN or OSU. It didn't. With both of those wins calculated, the Illinois RPI rank is 83 (as of right now). This could get a tad better by the end of the weekend, but probably not below 80. Unfortunately, big wins don't bring the RPI up as fast as it brings it down (kind of like when we all struggled to get our GPA up in school). Additionally, future wins over Iowa and Michigan will worsen the Illinois RPI because of how bad their RPI's are. That's what sucks about RPI calculations.
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Post by trojansc on Oct 28, 2023 22:27:20 GMT -5
Ok schedule wise - if all goes to plan, we should finish 17-13 or 18-12. 18-12 should get us on the bubble for the tourney. It would include wins over IU, PUR & MINN. I'm curious how you figure this? Even if Illinois gets to 18-12, the potential wins they have over the likes of Iowa and Michigan will DROP their RPI... not improve it. Illinois' RPI right now... with the Purdue win is 83. That is a VERY STEEP hill to climb to get to ~50. IMO Opinion, they would literally have to beat Nebraska and Wisconsin.... so basically win out. MAYBE just beat one of them and all the other matches to even be considered or close to 50 in RPI. There are a number of teams that will likely keep or climb the RPI that are in the 60's, 50's, and 40's now (including Wichita State... a team that beat Illinois). Sorry, I just don't see it. If Illinois gets to 19-11, I would likely be pretty surprised if they didn't get in, unless a bunch of bubble teams get super strong profiles in the meantime. The committee can reach low enough with a win over Nebraska/Wisconsin, and Illinois would get bonus points through that process to bring them up enough in RPI. 17-13 is a no. 18-12 is a probably no unless one of those wins is Nebraska/Wisconsin and some weird stuff happened on the bubble.
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Post by exit237a on Oct 28, 2023 22:40:16 GMT -5
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Post by vbkahuna on Oct 28, 2023 23:13:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought I'd check in to see who's still riding the "Tamas-Must-Go" bus. And what time it's scheduled to get to Uranus. Hope there's plenty of room on it for your clown outfits.
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Post by inpaign on Oct 28, 2023 23:32:19 GMT -5
Huge win for us tonight and a great week. Beating IU & PUR should pull our RPI down to the 60-70 range. Need to beat who we should beat and win @ MINN or OSU. It didn't. With both of those wins calculated, the Illinois RPI rank is 83 (as of right now). This could get a tad better by the end of the weekend, but probably not below 80. Unfortunately, big wins don't bring the RPI up as fast as it brings it down (kind of like when we all struggled to get our GPA up in school). Additionally, future wins over Iowa and Michigan will worsen the Illinois RPI because of how bad their RPI's are. That's what sucks about RPI calculations. I'm not entirely sure what you're using to calculate RPI, but that just doesn't sound right. We moved up 12 spots last week by beating Maryland and Rutgers in 5 and you're telling me we are only going to move up another ~12 spots after beating RV Indiana and #16 Purdue? I could be totally wrong, it's just hard to believe. I'm sorry, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by VolleyballFella on Oct 28, 2023 23:46:47 GMT -5
It didn't. With both of those wins calculated, the Illinois RPI rank is 83 (as of right now). This could get a tad better by the end of the weekend, but probably not below 80. Unfortunately, big wins don't bring the RPI up as fast as it brings it down (kind of like when we all struggled to get our GPA up in school). Additionally, future wins over Iowa and Michigan will worsen the Illinois RPI because of how bad their RPI's are. That's what sucks about RPI calculations. I'm not entirely sure what you're using to calculate RPI, but that just doesn't sound right. We moved up 12 spots last week by beating Maryland and Rutgers in 5 and you're telling me we are only going to move up another ~12 spots after beating RV Indiana and #16 Purdue? I could be totally wrong, it's just hard to believe. I'm sorry, but I'll believe it when I see it. It's right here and accurate -- as the green shaded area is the same exact RPI calculation that the NCAA committee uses. ncaastats.figstats.net/conference_rpi.phtml/BIG10
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Post by liberovb10 on Oct 29, 2023 8:18:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought I'd check in to see who's still riding the "Tamas-Must-Go" bus. And what time it's scheduled to get to Uranus. Hope there's plenty of room on it for your clown outfits. i still think there needs to be a shakeup within the coaching staff - specifically passing/defense. Purdue/Illinois typically split the season - so this wasn’t terribly surprising - but it’s nice seeing the Illini fighting and gritting out wins.
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Post by vbkahuna on Oct 29, 2023 9:49:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought I'd check in to see who's still riding the "Tamas-Must-Go" bus. And what time it's scheduled to get to Uranus. Hope there's plenty of room on it for your clown outfits. i still think there needs to be a shakeup within the coaching staff - specifically passing/defense. Purdue/Illinois typically split the season - so this wasn’t terribly surprising - but it’s nice seeing the Illini fighting and gritting out wins. "so this wasn’t terribly surprising"...Nice try. Well, it was terribly surprising to 95% (83 of 87) of the VT Pick-the-Winner voters who picked Purdue. And the passing/defense has improved noticeably in the last few weeks. Barnes in particular had by far her best week against two of the best serving teams in the B1G, handling the bombs from Haworth of Indiana and Chicoine of Purdue nicely. The fact that Mosher was able to significantly feed her middles (Bohm and Collins) both matches also speaks to the improved passing. Overall the team continues to improve and really found its mojo against two very tough teams. Regarding its poor RPI, I think that speaks more to the inherent flaws of the RPI system design (unable to adjust for early season losses or missing key players factors) than to this team's strength at this time. When people say this isn't the same team that had those early season losses, no kidding. Neither Nunge nor Barnes were playing for about half a dozen matches then or really in game shape for several more. Not sure the Illini can realistically overcome the poor RPI calculations (and I happen to be a mathematician/analyst by profession), but this is a much improved team, and its a credit to both the players' work ethic AND to the coaching staff.
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Post by inpaign on Oct 29, 2023 9:57:34 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure what you're using to calculate RPI, but that just doesn't sound right. We moved up 12 spots last week by beating Maryland and Rutgers in 5 and you're telling me we are only going to move up another ~12 spots after beating RV Indiana and #16 Purdue? I could be totally wrong, it's just hard to believe. I'm sorry, but I'll believe it when I see it. It's right here and accurate -- as the green shaded area is the same exact RPI calculation that the NCAA committee uses. ncaastats.figstats.net/conference_rpi.phtml/BIG10Well if we are going by that, how did Maryland lose 0-3 to Nebraska and beat Iowa yet they have moved up about 11 spots? You mentioned earlier that us beating Iowa and Michigan will actually hurt us. I recognize its dependent on teams around you in the ranking, but 11 spots is significant considering that according to the model after beating IU and Purdue we only moved up 12. If true, just another example of why RPI is flawed.
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