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Post by bops68 on Sept 13, 2023 8:56:48 GMT -5
With as many hard floating serves going long, is suggesting moving back 4 or 5 feet a crazy idea? The floater is effective because of movement at the last moment. There is absolutely room for some coaching and teaching. Ding .... ding....ding!! lol I played for years and years but didn't start in college but not as long as these girls and serving was always like just second nature. I mean you can hit a pretty nasty float serve with not a lot of effort and missing was if you were just really going for a line or something. Just baffles me we are so bad. I remember Moser hit a serve UNDER the net was it against Notre Dame? Can't remember the game. I have never seen that. Honestly it just seems like a complete lack of focus or something but if they don't practice serving like he said a few years ago.....
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Post by bops68 on Sept 13, 2023 9:22:13 GMT -5
A fast tempo offense is supposed to create seams in the block. When the pass is such that the set can only go to one place the value of a fast tempo is lost. I believe that is why Terry is forced to tip so much and hits into the block as much as she does. I really wonder what the team works on in practice. In the spring we saw Mosher push the ball to the middle from at or behind the 10 foot line, but we have not seen that very much now that the season has started. Why not? Setters connecting with hitters is the result of a lot of repetition in practice, so the hitter doesn’t have to wonder how or where the ball will be set. Which causes me to ask, why is Collins hitting with a short arm so much, without having to extend her arm to the ball. The hitters with whom I played would make sure I knew the ball was not where they wanted it. What is the deal with Raina tipping from the back row? Question. If we don’t practice serving in practice, as Tamas seems to have said, does that mean we don’t practice receiving? With as bad as our basic skills are, maybe we should be going back to working on basic skills as though we are a junior high team. Again, what the heck do we work on in practice? Why aren’t our players (other than Kennedy) down before the ball is hit at us? Do we scout these teams? Do we share scouting reports with our players? Do our players watch video of the teams we will be playing to try to learn tendencies? All of these are coaching and effort questions. It is like you are reading my mind oldmanvb!! lol The fast offense doesn't work when you pass as bad as we do. At this point I would rather see sky balls to the pins and let them use their height and maximum jump to hit. You are limited with your angles and such with a faster set to the pins anyway unless the timing is perfect but with our passing and then inconsistent setting it causes tips and blocks. But EVERYONE passes better than us. At this point I would take EUI and Wichita States liberos in a heartbeat.........heck probably any libero on any team. Someone earlier mentioned we need a new conditioning coach. We are big and slow beside a few. Bohm struggles to close a block on in system balls. One point against Bradley she was so late she stopped didn't jump and ducked her head because she was worried about getting hit in the head. I saw Whittingham at the last game and had to do a double take. She looks like a completely different person and I just thought wow how would she have looked playing at that fitness level? Watching Nebraska and Stanford last night it is just depressing. Nebraska is playing 4 freshman and they look amazing. The passing and defense from ALL of them is insane. Krause looks like their worst player honestly and she was a the starter the past few year. Nebraska is lean, mean, and they are athletic. We can't sniff those type of recruits anymore which is sad but especially in the middle it seems teams are looking for quick athletes that can move and jump and if you can make them an offensive threat just gravy and who doesn't love gravy. Sounds like we may have addressed that a little with the middle commits but we will have to see.
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Post by pointillinois on Sept 13, 2023 10:13:23 GMT -5
Yeah, it's really hard to see positives right now.
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Post by ilalum92 on Sept 13, 2023 10:26:46 GMT -5
A fast tempo offense is supposed to create seams in the block. When the pass is such that the set can only go to one place the value of a fast tempo is lost. I believe that is why Terry is forced to tip so much and hits into the block as much as she does. I really wonder what the team works on in practice. In the spring we saw Mosher push the ball to the middle from at or behind the 10 foot line, but we have not seen that very much now that the season has started. Why not? Setters connecting with hitters is the result of a lot of repetition in practice, so the hitter doesn’t have to wonder how or where the ball will be set. Which causes me to ask, why is Collins hitting with a short arm so much, without having to extend her arm to the ball. The hitters with whom I played would make sure I knew the ball was not where they wanted it. What is the deal with Raina tipping from the back row? Question. If we don’t practice serving in practice, as Tamas seems to have said, does that mean we don’t practice receiving? With as bad as our basic skills are, maybe we should be going back to working on basic skills as though we are a junior high team. Again, what the heck do we work on in practice? Why aren’t our players (other than Kennedy) down before the ball is hit at us? Do we scout these teams? Do we share scouting reports with our players? Do our players watch video of the teams we will be playing to try to learn tendencies? All of these are coaching and effort questions. It is like you are reading my mind oldmanvb!! lol The fast offense doesn't work when you pass as bad as we do. At this point I would rather see sky balls to the pins and let them use their height and maximum jump to hit. You are limited with your angles and such with a faster set to the pins anyway unless the timing is perfect but with our passing and then inconsistent setting it causes tips and blocks. But EVERYONE passes better than us. At this point I would take EUI and Wichita States liberos in a heartbeat.........heck probably any libero on any team. Someone earlier mentioned we need a new conditioning coach. We are big and slow beside a few. Bohm struggles to close a block on in system balls. One point against Bradley she was so late she stopped didn't jump and ducked her head because she was worried about getting hit in the head. I saw Whittingham at the last game and had to do a double take. She looks like a completely different person and I just thought wow how would she have looked playing at that fitness level? Watching Nebraska and Stanford last night it is just depressing. Nebraska is playing 4 freshman and they look amazing. The passing and defense from ALL of them is insane. Krause looks like their worst player honestly and she was a the starter the past few year. Nebraska is lean, mean, and they are athletic. We can't sniff those type of recruits anymore which is sad but especially in the middle it seems teams are looking for quick athletes that can move and jump and if you can make them an offensive threat just gravy and who doesn't love gravy. Sounds like we may have addressed that a little with the middle commits but we will have to see. The Stanford v Nebraska game was insane. Harvey, Blyshov, Rubin, all the frost and soph were tall, lean, quick, and hit cannons. Out team doesn’t measure up fitness wise to the top teams or even middle of the road teams. As with Whittington, Holzman came back in the best shape of her life, just so sad she got hurt. I would have loved to have seen those two tear up the Big 10.
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Post by volleyaudience on Sept 13, 2023 12:16:56 GMT -5
Where can I find a video of the Illinois locker room and player facilities? I looked this week at a video of the women's basketball player facilities. I don't know what I'm talking about. But, when I compare that to the brief glimpses I've seen of the volleyball facilities, the difference looked to me enough to be a huge competitive hurdle. Facilities by themselves will not win top recruits, but if really outdated, they are not fun to be trapped in all week and they are a huge billboard for lack of adequate administration support.
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Post by oldmanvb on Sept 13, 2023 15:20:10 GMT -5
Where can I find a video of the Illinois locker room and player facilities? I looked this week at a video of the women's basketball player facilities. I don't know what I'm talking about. But, when I compare that to the brief glimpses I've seen of the volleyball facilities, the difference looked to me enough to be a huge competitive hurdle. Facilities by themselves will not win top recruits, but if really outdated, they are not fun to be trapped in all week and they are a huge billboard for lack of adequate administration support. I have looked for photos of the locker room player facilities from time to time. They appear to be a closely guarded secret.
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Post by vball778 on Sept 13, 2023 15:24:49 GMT -5
Where can I find a video of the Illinois locker room and player facilities? I looked this week at a video of the women's basketball player facilities. I don't know what I'm talking about. But, when I compare that to the brief glimpses I've seen of the volleyball facilities, the difference looked to me enough to be a huge competitive hurdle. Facilities by themselves will not win top recruits, but if really outdated, they are not fun to be trapped in all week and they are a huge billboard for lack of adequate administration support. I have looked for photos of the locker room player facilities from time to time. They appear to be a closely guarded secret. www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR71QUHo/
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Post by inpaign on Sept 13, 2023 16:04:16 GMT -5
I have looked for photos of the locker room player facilities from time to time. They appear to be a closely guarded secret. www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR71QUHo/That's terrible.
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Post by Pasquale on Sept 13, 2023 16:17:55 GMT -5
I have looked for photos of the locker room player facilities from time to time. They appear to be a closely guarded secret. www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR71QUHo/We should all send this link to JW en masse. He’s probably seen it, but he needs to do something about it. Those look like the original facilities from when the building was built in 1925. This is unacceptable.
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Post by superfan1 on Sept 13, 2023 17:45:05 GMT -5
That's a vid of the visiting locker room right? I assume it's not the same one that the Illini use, still not great tho
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Post by oldmanvb on Sept 13, 2023 17:56:08 GMT -5
The money spent on what is, in my opinion, an unnecessary video board could have been used to fix the locker facilities. I would not have let my daughter (to the extent she listened to me, lol) play for a program that treated her like that.
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Post by oldmanvb on Sept 13, 2023 17:57:08 GMT -5
And the fact it was the visitors locker room does not make it any better. The basement of Huff is the basement of Huff.
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Post by oldmanvb on Sept 14, 2023 6:50:25 GMT -5
Assuming when the day comes the video board could be moved and only the money spent on installation would be lost, and assuming an announcement about improved locker and workout facilities is somewhat imminent, I am willing to try to understand why money is not being spent to improve current facilities. If Whitman doesn’t want the volleyball program to go into the crapper for a decade or longer something has to at least be announced. He should not be fooled by the quick turnaround in women’s basketball and what appears to be a quick turnaround in track and field. Those improvements are like lightning in a bottle - if he has a plan he should be transparent about it before he loses both the team and the fan base, if they have not already been lost.
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Post by illini88 on Sept 14, 2023 11:26:15 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how attendance at Huff is affected as the season goes on. Looks like the team will be a far cry from the typical higher level Illini teams we have come to expect. The bar seems to be lowering and we will see what changes will come about as a result.
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Post by cathy5 on Sept 14, 2023 11:37:21 GMT -5
We started with a couple homes games a year and then moved on to season tickets. We drive from Chicago. We didn’t purchase tickets last year and don’t plan on doing so until the product on the floor is at least fun to watch. We enjoy Champaign, but the cost of tickets and hotel just isn’t worth it for us anymore.
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