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Post by st15 on Sept 3, 2005 19:33:18 GMT -5
MSU sweeps 30-25, 30-19, 30-19.
Katie Johnson had 21 kills, Mickey Davis had 49 assists. I believe they both made the all-tournament team, but I'm not sure. I only caught the last two or three minutes of the game.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 3, 2005 23:12:04 GMT -5
Espn reported that 3 BSU volleyball players were suspended for NCAA rules violation along with about 10 football players. They didn't say if they were mens or womens players.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 4, 2005 0:19:50 GMT -5
I would guess it was men's players. The general lack of suspensions/legal troubles is another thing I love about this sport.
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Post by vbwatcher on Sept 4, 2005 7:37:09 GMT -5
The violations were for improper use of book scholarship by 12 football players and 3 womens volleyball players. I think it involved other scholarship athletes as well, I just do not knwo the total numbers. None were from the Men's Volleyball team.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 4, 2005 14:08:03 GMT -5
What does that mean? They used "book" scholarships to buy stereo equipment?
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 4, 2005 15:11:05 GMT -5
I wonder what Randy Litchfield, aka Dick Tater, thinks about this.
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Post by mookieblaylock on Sept 4, 2005 18:16:02 GMT -5
Someone told me that the violations were people using their book stipend to buy books for their friends in addition to buying books for themselves.
I didn't think this was that big a deal, really.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 4, 2005 18:21:15 GMT -5
Someone told me that the violations were people using their book stipend to buy books for their friends in addition to buying books for themselves. I didn't think this was that big a deal, really. It's bad. The actual recipients of the money were not the intended recipients. I'd feel pissed if the money I donated to Katrina victims ended up in the trust account of a Wal-Mart executive who later used it to remodel his/her summer cottage. |
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Post by vbcrew on Sept 4, 2005 20:53:30 GMT -5
Actually the violations for the 3 players on the womens vb team were not becuase they viloated the book policy but because ball state can't keep anything straight. Since the football players illegally used the book policy to get books for other ppl, the univerisity decided to do some investigating of past purchases of books from athletes. They came up with the plan to suspend anyone who had spent over $100 of "recommended" material. This was the case with the 3 players from the womens team. Becuase they had bought study guides for some of their classes which were not required material, but instead recommended, ball state decided that they should be suspended for it. Even though the book store has no idea what kind of material the athletes should be able to get for free since there is no communication there what so ever, those players got suspended basically because ball state can't communicate to it's book departments. So in basic terms, they got suspended for wanting to become better students by buying study guides for their classes. Not fair if you ask me.
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Post by mookieblaylock on Sept 4, 2005 21:19:17 GMT -5
Someone told me that the violations were people using their book stipend to buy books for their friends in addition to buying books for themselves. I didn't think this was that big a deal, really. It's bad. The actual recipients of the money were not the intended recipients. I'd feel pissed if the money I donated to Katrina victims ended up in the trust account of a Wal-Mart executive who later used it to remodel his/her summer cottage. Well, yeah, except that in this case we're not talking about victims of a natural disaster, nor millions of donated dollars. We're talking about college students buying too many books. But, hey, what's a little hyperbole on a Sunday!  |
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 5, 2005 2:27:18 GMT -5
Well, the point was: "the actual recipients were not the intended recipients of the money."
The Katrina part was just to make that concept more concrete.
But in light of new info above, the point is moot. The girls got themselves (inadvertently) into a crappy situation. These things happen. If the new info above is indeed all there is to it, then it certainly sounds like a harsh penalty for such a minor infraction (if that...).
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Post by vbcrew on Sept 5, 2005 15:34:13 GMT -5
Yes it was, and they didn't even have any reason to think they were doing anything wrong. All ball state would have had to do was tell the book stores that athletes are not allowed to be given recommended material. If they would have communicated that a long time ago there wouldn't be any problem. the funny thing is now, is that becuase of the infractions, ball state now includes all the recommended material along with all the required texts for classes. So they are getting punished for buying what is now going to be given to them. It is very crappy indeed.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 5, 2005 15:40:16 GMT -5
That is really a joke. The NCAA is such a screwed up organization. I can see the need to have rules, but the rulebook is bigger than the phone book for medium sized cities. It is so ironic and stupid that student athletes would get suspended for using their book stipends to buy study guides for their own classes. We wouldn't want them to put extra effort into their classes.
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Post by rocket on Sept 5, 2005 18:05:10 GMT -5
This sounds like the the Ball State compliance director will be looking for a new job.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 5, 2005 18:12:04 GMT -5
I bet if David Letterman (a Ball State grad) made a joke or humorous stab at this situation on the air, things will get rectified at Ball State fairly quickly. But he's too busy interviewing Hilary Duff.
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