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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 1, 2022 16:24:42 GMT -5
I made a comment a few weeks ago about Karch possibly taking the job. The tea I’m getting here in these streets is UCLA is 100% going after Karch, whether he takes it or not is a different story. let’s go ahead and kill two birds with one stone.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 1, 2022 16:26:09 GMT -5
I made a comment a few weeks ago about Karch possibly taking the job. The tea I’m getting here in these streets is UCLA is 100% going after Karch, whether he takes it or not is a different story. I guess you never know, but I don't know why Karch would leave his current position before Paris at the earliest. And for a college job, no less. Right now, he doesn't really have to recruit. He basically just invites who he wants, and they show up. I think UCLA (and some on VT) will be disappointed.
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Post by pacanj on Dec 1, 2022 16:34:02 GMT -5
Karch could do both UCLA and USA, just like Speraw. But that may be more work than he wants. Would Fisher want it?
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Post by InfoBot on Dec 1, 2022 16:35:14 GMT -5
UCLA will be fine if they hire the right coach. The entire reason that they're going to the Big Ten is for more money. But the Big Ten also just so happens to be the strongest women's volleyball conference, and top athletes want to compete against the best. Being able to do that while living in LA is a huge plus. How much more money? Enough to be competitive with the haves in the new conference? I don't think USC or UCLA knows for sure. They see the above the line numbers and are drooling, but how closely did they scrutinize the below the line numbers? I am not sure they sussed it out completely. Regardless, it is going to happen. We will see how it works out financially. One person can make a lot of difference, but faith and hope are not tangible quantities. AFTER the right person gets a job, the administration still has to let them do their job. Yet another intangible. I will have to go look for it later, but I’m fairly sure that I saw an article where they said they’d have to use half the Big 10 money to pay for travel alone.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Dec 1, 2022 16:35:17 GMT -5
Great job, VolleyTalk I know we want to pat ourselves on the back, but I highly doubt VT had anything to do with this decision. lol ...
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 1, 2022 16:36:12 GMT -5
How much more money? Enough to be competitive with the haves in the new conference? I don't think USC or UCLA knows for sure. They see the above the line numbers and are drooling, but how closely did they scrutinize the below the line numbers? I am not sure they sussed it out completely. Regardless, it is going to happen. We will see how it works out financially. One person can make a lot of difference, but faith and hope are not tangible quantities. AFTER the right person gets a job, the administration still has to let them do their job. Yet another intangible. I will have to go look for it later, but I’m fairly sure that I saw they said they’d have to use half the Big 10 money to pay for travel alone. I find that very unlikely. If travel cost that much, it wouldn't be worth doing. Or do you mean half of the difference as opposed to half of the total?
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 1, 2022 16:52:41 GMT -5
Karch could do both UCLA and USA, just like Speraw. But that may be more work than he wants. Would Fisher want it? He does seem to be someone who likes to keep busy so that doesn't seem to be a problem. However, he is 62, he may not want to have that job for long. They should call Dan Fisher.
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Post by InfoBot on Dec 1, 2022 16:56:03 GMT -5
I will have to go look for it later, but I’m fairly sure that I saw an article where they said they’d have to use half the Big 10 money to pay for travel alone. I find that very unlikely. If travel cost that much, it wouldn't be worth doing. Or do you mean half of the difference as opposed to half of the total? Alright, I can’t seem to find the exact article but I know it talked about UCLA talking about utilizing more charters in their proposal to the board of regents because there was concern about academics with the additional travel. I did find this article: theathletic.com/3528311/2022/08/23/usc-ucla-big-ten-travel/?amp=1Which says, “The Bruins spend $8 million a year on travel and game expenses for their athletic programs, according to financial information reported to the NCAA. That could explode if UCLA charters half the time, costing as much as $13.1 million and more than doubling if every sport charters with an estimated cost of $23.7 million, according to the conference source.” That would be half of the big tens current media pay out, but not of the new and upcoming one.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 1, 2022 16:58:13 GMT -5
I find that very unlikely. If travel cost that much, it wouldn't be worth doing. Or do you mean half of the difference as opposed to half of the total? Alright, I can’t seem to find the exact article but I know it talked about UCLA talking about utilizing more charters in their proposal to the board of regents because there was concern about academics with the additional travel. I did find this article: theathletic.com/3528311/2022/08/23/usc-ucla-big-ten-travel/?amp=1Which says, “The Bruins spend $8 million a year on travel and game expenses for their athletic programs, according to financial information reported to the NCAA. That could explode if UCLA charters half the time, costing as much as $13.1 million and more than doubling if every sport charters with an estimated cost of $23.7 million, according to the conference source.” That would be half of the big tens current media pay out, but not of the new and upcoming one. I highly doubt that UCLA will charter every game for every sport. That cost would be almost exactly triple. The half charter price seems reasonable for them.
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Post by InfoBot on Dec 1, 2022 17:03:09 GMT -5
Alright, I can’t seem to find the exact article but I know it talked about UCLA talking about utilizing more charters in their proposal to the board of regents because there was concern about academics with the additional travel. I did find this article: theathletic.com/3528311/2022/08/23/usc-ucla-big-ten-travel/?amp=1Which says, “The Bruins spend $8 million a year on travel and game expenses for their athletic programs, according to financial information reported to the NCAA. That could explode if UCLA charters half the time, costing as much as $13.1 million and more than doubling if every sport charters with an estimated cost of $23.7 million, according to the conference source.” That would be half of the big tens current media pay out, but not of the new and upcoming one. I highly doubt that UCLA will charter every game for every sport. That cost would be almost exactly triple. The half charter price seems reasonable for them. Olympic sports would likely have to charter at least some regardless. There isn’t a major airport anywhere near State College, PA for example, and there are limits on how much class student-athletes are allowed to miss. The Big 10 is a fair bit less travel friendly than the Pac 12. Also, charter cost take miles into account. LA to Eugene is significantly cheaper than LA to the east coast. I don’t think it being $17.5-20 million is a ridiculous forecast by any means. However, with the payout being $80-$100 million per institution, even that number leaves plenty of extra funds to go around.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 1, 2022 17:14:49 GMT -5
I highly doubt that UCLA will charter every game for every sport. That cost would be almost exactly triple. The half charter price seems reasonable for them. Olympic sports would likely have to charter at least some regardless. There isn’t a major airport anywhere near State College, PA for example, and there are limits on how much class student-athletes are allowed to miss. The Big 10 is a fair bit less travel friendly than the Pac 12. Also, charter cost take miles into account. LA to Eugene is significantly cheaper than LA to the east coast. I don’t think it being $17.5-20 million is a ridiculous forecast by any means. Seriously, WTF is wrong with these "institutions of higher education" when "the leaders" think it's a good idea to have to fly from Southern California to State College and College Park and Rutgers as part of a conference schedule?
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 1, 2022 17:18:11 GMT -5
I highly doubt that UCLA will charter every game for every sport. That cost would be almost exactly triple. The half charter price seems reasonable for them. Olympic sports would likely have to charter at least some regardless. There isn’t a major airport anywhere near State College, PA for example, and there are limits on how much class student-athletes are allowed to miss. The Big 10 is a fair bit less travel friendly than the Pac 12. Also, charter cost take miles into account. LA to Eugene is significantly cheaper than LA to the east coast. I don’t think it being $17.5-20 million is a ridiculous forecast by any means. However, with the payout being $80-$100 million per institution, even that number leaves plenty of extra funds to go around. Sure, if they charter every flight, but they're not going to do that. Does every team need to charter to Chicago when they play Northwestern?
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 1, 2022 17:20:15 GMT -5
Karch could do both UCLA and USA, just like Speraw. But that may be more work than he wants. Would Fisher want it? Is UCLA looking at the Speraw dual role 10 years in and really think it's achieved what they wanted? They've made the NCAAs like 3 times in that span. Smaller field, but also more dominant position. The conflicts with the international schedule would be way worse with the women's fall season too.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Dec 1, 2022 17:26:24 GMT -5
#1 target for UCLA:
I would say it'll be Petrie from San Diego. Now whether or not she'd take the phone call and have interest is another matter. She can retire at USD likely if she wants. Would take a 7 year contract probably to entice.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 1, 2022 17:28:24 GMT -5
#1 target for UCLA: I would say it'll be Petrie from San Diego. Now whether or not she'd take the phone call and have interest is another matter. She can retire at USD likely if she wants. Would take a 7 year contract probably to entice. I guess you never know, but I've never gotten the impression that Petrie wants to be anywhere other than San Diego. She's been there for 24 seasons.
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