Regents Ready UCLA Decision

[Phaedrus]

As Regents Ready U.C.L.A. Decision, Emails Show Little Public Support www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/sports/ncaafootball/ucla-big-ten-uc-regents.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqYhlSlUaACbORd89sgbBg_PGybI7gWP0JSyRDitJy-1QCYmPvlvAY-9-bJ4p0juWQsNadr8zQfg4hsluA3tQcSj66J2VhMZCZCwvtYO4Wm5x0Z-UBehnqTavMDi1JqIiyOTm-kKNbGT1XffU1iZ1JQ5uqJFgZkjqjSJTvtrNEeJ13Nd83e5wRcwpAGddO1TZ-qXgGB58O96ZbhrD6gRQWu1RXTjbnNP0-KtXOUwJSgqAFCUjlD56vNBMO9oXP7L8LAogcaf8hbYWC29qKeS5FtDtdu_2avzBdidfCeE1iSU

[coachdavid]

NYT Article said:

The nearly four dozen angry emails sent to the athletic director or the chancellor in the immediate aftermath of the June 30 announcement largely decried the move, sometimes less than politely, as a shortsighted, tradition-ignoring money grab.

[lbcya39]

Dec 14, 2022 0:52:01 GMT -5 Phaedrus said:

As Regents Ready U.C.L.A. Decision, Emails Show Little Public Support www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/sports/ncaafootball/ucla-big-ten-uc-regents.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqYhlSlUaACbORd89sgbBg_PGybI7gWP0JSyRDitJy-1QCYmPvlvAY-9-bJ4p0juWQsNadr8zQfg4hsluA3tQcSj66J2VhMZCZCwvtYO4Wm5x0Z-UBehnqTavMDi1JqIiyOTm-kKNbGT1XffU1iZ1JQ5uqJFgZkjqjSJTvtrNEeJ13Nd83e5wRcwpAGddO1TZ-qXgGB58O96ZbhrD6gRQWu1RXTjbnNP0-KtXOUwJSgqAFCUjlD56vNBMO9oXP7L8LAogcaf8hbYWC29qKeS5FtDtdu_2avzBdidfCeE1iSU

This is going to be interesting how this plays out if they do block the move.

[coachdavid]

Nancy Skinner said:

The move has also attracted the attention of Nancy Skinner, a state lawmaker who is considering introducing legislation that would put stricter limits on the time athletes at California schools spend practicing, playing and traveling for their sport.

Way to hobble your athletes Nancy.

[volleyguy]

Backing out now would create a host of other problems for the Regents, legally and financially. I see them reluctantly allowing it to go forward, rescinding or modifying the delegation authority and recommending some type of assistance to Cal, not necessarily from UCLA.

[mikegarrison]

Dec 14, 2022 1:15:46 GMT -5 volleyguy said:

Backing out now would create a host of other problems for the Regents, legally and financially. I see them reluctantly allowing it to go forward, rescinding or modifying the delegation authority and recommending some type of assistance to Cal, not necessarily from UCLA.

Not really. The regents never agreed to the deal in the first place. They wouldn't be "backing out" of it. If UCLA made a deal they didn't have the authority to make, that's not the regents' problem.

Now I'm not predicting the answer will be no. I suspect they will allow the deal. But I don't think they have any legal or financial obligations here. It's kind of the Big Ten's problem if they made a deal with someone who didn't have the authority to make a deal.

[c4ndlelight]

If the Regents do pull out, we're ready

[cbrown1709]

Could Stanford step in?

[tomclen]

If there's a coach or two mulling over the UCLA job, this probably isn't helping things.

[tomclen]

From the NYT article linked in OP:

In a survey of U.C.L.A. athletes conducted for the Regents, only 35 percent of the 111 respondents said they thought the move was a good idea. (Only about one in six athletes even responded to the survey.) Bill Walton, one of U.C.L.A.’s most renowned former athletes, has urged the Regents to reject the move.

So has another former U.C.L.A. athlete, the football player Ramogi Huma. As the executive director of the National College Players Association, an athlete advocacy group, he told the Regents in a letter last week that the increased travel to far-afield campuses in Pennsylvania, Maryland and New Jersey would place a greater burden on Black male athletes, whose graduation rates at the university are about 50 percent, compared with 73 percent for Black male students overall at U.C.L.A.

[HappyVolley]

Dec 14, 2022 2:46:06 GMT -5 cbrown1709 said:

Could Stanford step in?

The general perception around the country, and in particular the B1G, is that Standord is more likely to de-emphasize athletics.  This perception largely comes from Standord's decision (later reversed) to eliminate the wrestling program.  The B1G is the premiere wrestling conference, so Stanford's attempt to eliminate wrestling certainly got the B1G's attention. 

[vbnerd]

Dec 14, 2022 1:15:46 GMT -5 volleyguy said:

Backing out now would create a host of other problems for the Regents, legally and financially. I see them reluctantly allowing it to go forward, rescinding or modifying the delegation authority and recommending some type of assistance to Cal, not necessarily from UCLA.

Then the question is about the future employment of UCLAs leadership. The regents are going to have to take a chunk out of someone's backside or they were just spinning their wheels for 5 months.

[socalvbhomer]

California Politicians will ruin this also….

[volleyguy]

Dec 14, 2022 2:05:57 GMT -5 mikegarrison said:

Dec 14, 2022 1:15:46 GMT -5 volleyguy said:

Backing out now would create a host of other problems for the Regents, legally and financially. I see them reluctantly allowing it to go forward, rescinding or modifying the delegation authority and recommending some type of assistance to Cal, not necessarily from UCLA.

Not really. The regents never agreed to the deal in the first place. They wouldn't be "backing out" of it. If UCLA made a deal they didn't have the authority to make, that's not the regents' problem.

Now I'm not predicting the answer will be no. I suspect they will allow the deal. But I don't think they have any legal or financial obligations here. It's kind of the Big Ten's problem if they made a deal with someone who didn't have the authority to make a deal.

But they did have the authority. It was delegated to the Chancellor.

[volleyguy]

Dec 14, 2022 8:09:11 GMT -5 vbnerd said:

Dec 14, 2022 1:15:46 GMT -5 volleyguy said:

Backing out now would create a host of other problems for the Regents, legally and financially. I see them reluctantly allowing it to go forward, rescinding or modifying the delegation authority and recommending some type of assistance to Cal, not necessarily from UCLA.

Then the question is about the future employment of UCLAs leadership. The regents are going to have to tank a chunk out of someones backside or they were just spinning their wheels for 5 months.

Spinning their wheels for 5 months is not unprecedented.