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Post by gabricio616 on Dec 18, 2022 13:05:58 GMT -5
It was a fantastic match. Watching Imoco is sooooo fun. My favorite team roster of the recent times. They are so complete and dominant. I will be mad forever for the Robin the Queen erasure, though. FIVB wtf? the front office of imocco deserves mvp, getting rid of sylla and getting one more great passer who can actually score sometimes, trading folie for youth and service and getting the number 1 opposite in the world Things are a bit more complex, actually, but we now have to admit that Santarelli is the current real deal, transferswise/ Imocowise/ Serbiawise. Getting rid of Sylla and Folie, switching opposites and taking the top young local MBs was just as smart as getting rid of Old Troublemakers Ognjenovič/ Rasič/ Veljkovič and benching Mihajlovič. Arguably a psychological wizard, he trains DEFENSE like h*ll and has Wolosz producing an equilibrate distribution. Nothing new, just plain and simple normality. Guidetti promoted terrible transfers (in february he must steal Bricio and drop invisible Daalderop), but most of all face the sad reality of turkish players being FRAUDS.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 18, 2022 13:16:57 GMT -5
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Post by gabricio616 on Dec 18, 2022 13:21:48 GMT -5
Gunes is like Chirichella, only slower. Gunes is in an abysmal slump right now but is usually world class GUNES is like the Berlin Wall in 1989, only with tons of make-up on and way more followers. To be dropped
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Post by gabricio616 on Dec 18, 2022 13:50:39 GMT -5
Congrats Imoco! Fantastic performance, especially Wolosz, Moki, and of course Haak. Vakifbank need to get their SR sorted out before the CL final lol. This really felt like the Turkey v Korea game in Tokyo with Guidetti refusing to bench an absolutely useless Zehra Gunes. Would it have been enough? Maybe not. But with a title on the line, its inexcuseable to not even try. If the Italian Volley Fed allows it, Guidetti will coach the NT, hopefully dropping oXXo for good and having the ITALIAN version of Antropova, along with Omoruyi -aka a much better Sylla- Fahr and more youth. Vakif, instead, either completely resets and reconsider its turkish roster or loses everything. Better than that: I now save only GABI, OGBOGU, EGONU and possibly Bajema. GG better put the whole squad together, plan good transfers and spend coaching-time with Egonu: its now or never
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Post by coisavioleta on Dec 18, 2022 16:03:18 GMT -5
I'm curious as to the reasons why Vakıfbank managed to set the middle (especially Ogbogu) a lot during the semi-final against Eczacıbaşı whereas in the final the middles barely played a role at all. Is this because Conegliano had much better service pressure than Eczacıbaşı?
Also, although Wołosz is definitely better than Cansu, it can't have been easy playing with a hurt shoulder.
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Post by HandeBallerdın on Dec 18, 2022 17:05:11 GMT -5
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Post by mberlanda on Dec 18, 2022 17:06:51 GMT -5
the front office of imocco deserves mvp, getting rid of sylla and getting one more great passer who can actually score sometimes, trading folie for youth and service and getting the number 1 opposite in the world Things are a bit more complex, actually, but we now have to admit that Santarelli is the current real deal, transferswise/ Imocowise/ Serbiawise. Getting rid of Sylla and Folie, switching opposites and taking the top young local MBs was just as smart as getting rid of Old Troublemakers Ognjenovič/ Rasič/ Veljkovič and benching Mihajlovič. Arguably a psychological wizard, he trains DEFENSE like h*ll and has Wolosz producing an equilibrate distribution. Nothing new, just plain and simple normality. Guidetti promoted terrible transfers (in february he must steal Bricio and drop invisible Daalderop), but most of all face the sad reality of turkish players being FRAUDS. Getting rid of Sylla and Folie? Sylla when she heard that Egonu was leaving Conegliano she thought it was time for a change and Monza/Milano was the team that was strengthening the most that moment.
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Post by HandeBallerdın on Dec 18, 2022 17:07:13 GMT -5
I'm curious as to the reasons why Vakıfbank managed to set the middle (especially Ogbogu) a lot during the semi-final against Eczacıbaşı whereas in the final the middles barely played a role at all. Is this because Conegliano had much better service pressure than Eczacıbaşı?
Also, although Wołosz is definitely better than Cansu, it can't have been easy playing with a hurt shoulder.
yes, there were not many opportunities, and Cansu clearly did not trust Zehra even when she had a rare chance to use her. And yes Wolosz is better than Cansu generally but this is the first time in 5 head to heads that Wolosz has outplayed her (and her team lost those 4 also)
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Post by mberlanda on Dec 18, 2022 17:17:54 GMT -5
Congrats Imoco! Fantastic performance, especially Wolosz, Moki, and of course Haak. Vakifbank need to get their SR sorted out before the CL final lol. This really felt like the Turkey v Korea game in Tokyo with Guidetti refusing to bench an absolutely useless Zehra Gunes. Would it have been enough? Maybe not. But with a title on the line, its inexcuseable to not even try. If the Italian Volley Fed allows it, Guidetti will coach the NT, hopefully dropping oXXo for good and having the ITALIAN version of Antropova, along with Omoruyi -aka a much better Sylla- Fahr and more youth. Vakif, instead, either completely resets and reconsider its turkish roster or loses everything. Better than that: I now save only GABI, OGBOGU, EGONU and possibly Bajema. GG better put the whole squad together, plan good transfers and spend coaching-time with Egonu: its now or never Omoruyi better than Sylla, I wouldn't say. Maybe he will become stronger than Sylla but at present he is inferior in offense and defense.
As for Antropova from her and her family not even a hint has ever come that she wants to play for the Italian national team. The CAS in Lausanne has to decide what her sport nationality is and if she (CAS) decides for the Italian nationality it only means that she could play as an Italian in the league. In order to play for the national team she would also have to have citizenship, and as far as I know, she only has Russian citizenship (she stayed too short in Iceland to also have Icelandic citizenship and I think that after 2014 dual citizenship is not even allowed in Russia). So Antropova only wants Italian citizenship to increase her market value. As a foreigner, in fact, one has to pay the home nation and there are fewer places available (and more competition).
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 18, 2022 17:36:22 GMT -5
this is on VBW's site.... omg this is so sad HandeBallerdın go give Kubra a hug
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Post by HandeBallerdın on Dec 18, 2022 19:00:07 GMT -5
this is on VBW's site.... omg this is so sad HandeBallerdın go give Kubra a hug she deserves one. shes looking right at Zehra this is tragic😩 Im legit pissed and sad for her.
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Post by Reach on Dec 18, 2022 19:52:17 GMT -5
I missed something here, what happened
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Post by coisavioleta on Dec 18, 2022 20:47:10 GMT -5
I missed something here, what happened Vakıfbank lost, Zehra played like crap but Kübra was never subbed in once during the match.
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Post by Reach on Dec 18, 2022 20:52:41 GMT -5
I missed something here, what happened Vakıfbank lost, Zehra played like crap but Kübra was never subbed in once during the match. Ohh yea ok.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 18, 2022 21:23:07 GMT -5
why is the WORLD did Zehra Gunes make a team over Robin or Lubian?? De Kruijf I WILL NOT LET YOU GO DOWN LIKE THIS AGAIN IM SORRY QUEEN
anyways I just watched the game. I read the opposite debates. I absolutely agree it’s 1a, 1b, 1c. I feel like if all situations are equal though, my 1a is Bosko, my 1b is now Haak, and my 1c is Egonu, which is drastically different than my opinion even a few months ago. I will say, if I have to build a team from the ground up, I’d rather have Egonu than Haak. If I have a solid team in place, I’d rather have Haak. I’d rather have Bosko than all though (see Madden!)
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