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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 11:24:53 GMT -5
I knew the majority of you were going to get that reactionary, despite explanation of what was meant? Ok, fine. You got me. My fault and totally no need for you to look inward at all 🙄 If you knew this would be the reaction then why did u post? I really didn’t. Aside from horns1 who I don’t take seriously and lump in with the likes of Holiday and volleyballdiva or whatever. What I had issue with was that I think people could have engaged in what Wahinefan44 was saying with more than just gnashing their teeth and hissing. I was like 2 for 8ish in Texas fans that could address the argument without getting overly worked up. I mean sh!t i came in here and admonished a Hawaii fan for sloppily jumping in the thread post championship and crapping on the program and the transfer makeup of the team. I don’t think this fanbase is full of reactionary crybabies but could’ve fooled me with a lot of the responses.
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 11:26:52 GMT -5
I call bullsh!t. You didn't come here to have a civil conversation, you came here to pick a fight. Both you and Wahinefan44 have been around VT a long time - you *knew* what the reaction to your posts would be, so don't get all wide-eyed and sanctimonious now. 100% correct Yet every time I try and shift the conversation towards something civil a bunch of y’all seem to need to make it personal. 🤷🏾♂️
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Feb 14, 2023 11:26:59 GMT -5
I call bullsh!t. You didn't come here to have a civil conversation, you came here to pick a fight. Both you and Wahinefan44 have been around VT a long time - you *knew* what the reaction to your posts would be, so don't get all wide-eyed and sanctimonious now. I knew the majority of you were going to get that reactionary, despite explanation of what was meant? Ok, fine. You got me. My fault and totally no need for you to look inward at all 🙄 I've noticed that you do this a lot - not just on the Texas thread. You start fights on team threads with disparaging comments about that team's players, coach, record etc. And when fans of that team (who, as you damn well know, are the majority of ppl on that thread) react badly, you double-down and extend the fight. Maybe you're the one who needs to look inward. Consider why it is you crave negative attention and drama.
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 11:29:38 GMT -5
I knew the majority of you were going to get that reactionary, despite explanation of what was meant? Ok, fine. You got me. My fault and totally no need for you to look inward at all 🙄 I've noticed that you do this a lot - not just on the Texas thread. You start fights on team threads with disparaging comments about that team's players, coach, record etc. And when fans of that team (who, as you damn well know, are the majority of ppl on that thread) react badly, you double-down and extend the fight. Maybe you're the one who needs to look inward. Consider why it is you crave negative attention and drama. You’re on some delusional sh!t because I have never disparaged a teams players, coach, or record so miss me with that bs. You’re either confused about who you’re thinking of or just making stuff up.
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Post by horns1 on Feb 14, 2023 11:29:40 GMT -5
For those who forgot, babybacksets posted a prediction that Texas would be the last place Akana would end up transferring to; clueless that Akana had come to Texas summer camps while in high school. Clueless as to what she was looking for when transferring from Nebraska. Here he is now wanting to blame Texas fans for his decision to troll and his pure incompetence.
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 11:35:41 GMT -5
For those who forgot, babybacksets posted a prediction that Texas would be the last place Akana would end up transferring to; clueless that Akana had come to Texas summer camps while in high school. Clueless as to what she was looking for when transferring from Nebraska. Here he is now wanting to blame Texas fans for his decision to troll and his pure incompetence. *if Akana wanted to play Libero, Texas would be the last place for her to want to transfer to. That was my actual statement. Which I still stand by. Fixed it for you 😘
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Post by hornshouse23 on Feb 14, 2023 11:38:27 GMT -5
I’m not mad at all and I think this conversation is quite comical. Sorry you took that as cattiness. I just think it’s comical when people make statements and then Backtrack when the stats and facts don’t support they statement. But whomst am I? 🤷🏾♂️ And you are more than welcome to take the smug route. No one is backtracking, I said what I said and I responded to your examples of what you thought made those 3 players good examples of what player development looks like. I get that it’s tough for a homer to see their team as anything other than infallible but idk I guess I just expected more volleyball talk on Volleytalk vs the cattiness but if this thread is more Queens than ballers then I get it. I was obviously wrong. I honestly love it when people think I’m being bitchier than I really am. It just shows how stupid you think you are, and not how stupid I think you are. I get the draw of coming here to talk about a program that is actually relevant, and remembers what it’s like to make a deep run in the tournament, so carry on. I haven’t been to the Hawaii thread in a while, so I’m not sure what’s going on over there, but it’s clearly not interesting enough. I do apologize that the responses you’re getting aren’t living up to your expectations. Fill out a comment card. Your refund will be credited to you in the next 5-7 business days.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Feb 14, 2023 11:42:24 GMT -5
TL:dr Texas fan base sucks because we’re not letting low-rent Hawaii fans get away with spewing foolishness for no reason. Some people post like they’re getting paid per character, but that’s the gist. See like this. You’re being an actual pos for no reason The reason is that you’re annoying af. Reason enough?
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 11:52:59 GMT -5
Not really talking about accolades here, maybe that wasn’t obvious but all I’ll say is that the only one there that I would agree with completely is O’Neal but NOT for blocking, from what I remember she came in a pretty solid blocker already but I think she made strides in her overall game as a server and defender as well as hitting in front of the setter. But Logan was still being DSd at times in her super senior season, up to you if you feel like that was a one off as she started as a 3 rotation pin. Not knocking her as a full player because she definitely advanced as a backrow player. Thought it was a thing here that Molly was not reliable out of system on the rightside? I think the way she is ran offensively plays to her strength and I don’t think it’s all that surprising that her hitting percentage would be high if she’s almost ran like a middle…. I have a few questions. 1) Is it not possible that Logan was DS'd during some of Texas's less crucial games to better improve and develop other athletes such as Skinner and Halter? 2) If accolades (AA, AR, NC, NPOY, etc.) doesn't mean success, then what does to you? 3) In an interview in 2022 (I forget which one) O'Neal stated JE told her this year she needed to focus mostly on blocking so that's what they'd been working on mainly. Meaning she and JE saw a weakness in her game and sought to improve it. Is that not player development? 4) I'm so ready to see Kahahawai get that starting RS next season, aren't you? 1) from what I gathered it was a decision made to have Logan feel like she could rely on others and not put so much pressure on herself. Which is great and I retract the assumption that it was because she was in any way unpolished in the backrow. 2) I don’t think O’Neal was really one that I thought was underdeveloped for her position. I know she wasn’t used as often in the past in front of the setter because of how good she is going behind, but I thought I mentioned that as an aspect of her game that improved this season, not to mention how good of a server and left back defender she is for a middle. 3) I’m just less concerned with accolades because I think most who have a decent foundation of their ability to judge player develop, look at specific aspects of their game relative to their position and see how that’s improved. Like a high hitting percentage as an opposite who runs majority quick sets is great, but those are numbers I think you would expect to see from a middle/pin hybrid and I thought hitting better out of system would be a better determiner of how she’s progressed as a true pin. 4) Would love to see Kahahawai win the spot and thrive. If she looks elsewhere and thrives, great! I’ve followed her game since she was a high school Freshman and want to see her put a team on her back because I know she’s capable. Lol it was weird when people here started listing Hawaii players that went to Texas as if it was some sort of diss to Hawaii. But I think it just helps to disseminate “homer fans” from actual fans of the game.
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 12:00:55 GMT -5
And you are more than welcome to take the smug route. No one is backtracking, I said what I said and I responded to your examples of what you thought made those 3 players good examples of what player development looks like. I get that it’s tough for a homer to see their team as anything other than infallible but idk I guess I just expected more volleyball talk on Volleytalk vs the cattiness but if this thread is more Queens than ballers then I get it. I was obviously wrong. I honestly love it when people think I’m being bitchier than I really am. It just shows how stupid you think you are, and not how stupid I think you are. I get the draw of coming here to talk about a program that is actually relevant, and remembers what it’s like to make a deep run in the tournament, so carry on. I haven’t been to the Hawaii thread in a while, so I’m not sure what’s going on over there, but it’s clearly not interesting enough. I do apologize that the responses you’re getting aren’t living up to your expectations. Fill out a comment card. Your refund will be credited to you in the next 5-7 business days. I get it. Your schtick is being bitchy and “teeheeing” afterwards that others are upset and you’re so “aloof and unbothered”. This is very common thing to do when you’re naturally defensive. If you aren’t able to engage civilly and are annoyed, oh well lol. It’s an anonymous, public thread. In person I would’ve already been popped the glitter out of your mouth so it’s really nothing. I’m gonna say what I’m gonna say, defend myself when someone makes it personal and starts name calling. Nothing you say will change that. Unfortunate because I never saw you as this much of an @$$%*!* based on your past posts but here we are, oh well.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Feb 14, 2023 12:07:02 GMT -5
I have a few questions. 1) Is it not possible that Logan was DS'd during some of Texas's less crucial games to better improve and develop other athletes such as Skinner and Halter? 2) If accolades (AA, AR, NC, NPOY, etc.) doesn't mean success, then what does to you? 3) In an interview in 2022 (I forget which one) O'Neal stated JE told her this year she needed to focus mostly on blocking so that's what they'd been working on mainly. Meaning she and JE saw a weakness in her game and sought to improve it. Is that not player development? 4) I'm so ready to see Kahahawai get that starting RS next season, aren't you? 1) from what I gathered it was a decision made to have Logan feel like she could rely on others and not put so much pressure on herself. Which is great and I retract the assumption that it was because she was in any way unpolished in the backrow. 2) I don’t think O’Neal was really one that I thought was underdeveloped for her position. I know she wasn’t used as often in the past in front of the setter because of how good she is going behind, but I thought I mentioned that as an aspect of her game that improved this season, not to mention how good of a server and left back defender she is for a middle. 3) I’m just less concerned with accolades because I think most who have a decent foundation of their ability to judge player develop, look at specific aspects of their game relative to their position and see how that’s improved. Like a high hitting percentage as an opposite who runs majority quick sets is great, but those are numbers I think you would expect to see from a middle/pin hybrid and I thought hitting better out of system would be a better determiner of how she’s progressed as a true pin. 4) Would love to see Kahahawai win the spot and thrive. If she looks elsewhere and thrives, great! I’ve followed her game since she was a high school Freshman and want to see her put a team on her back because I know she’s capable. Lol it was weird when people here started listing Hawaii players that went to Texas as if it was some sort of diss to Hawaii. But I think it just helps to disseminate “homer fans” from actual fans of the game. I wouldn’t be concerned with accolades either if I was a Hawaii fan. Also anyone who’s watched Molly’s career knows she’s improved tremendously both in and out of system. She’s improved her arm swing. She’s never going to be a Kipp type player, but you can’t really say she hasn’t improved.
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 12:25:41 GMT -5
1) from what I gathered it was a decision made to have Logan feel like she could rely on others and not put so much pressure on herself. Which is great and I retract the assumption that it was because she was in any way unpolished in the backrow. 2) I don’t think O’Neal was really one that I thought was underdeveloped for her position. I know she wasn’t used as often in the past in front of the setter because of how good she is going behind, but I thought I mentioned that as an aspect of her game that improved this season, not to mention how good of a server and left back defender she is for a middle. 3) I’m just less concerned with accolades because I think most who have a decent foundation of their ability to judge player develop, look at specific aspects of their game relative to their position and see how that’s improved. Like a high hitting percentage as an opposite who runs majority quick sets is great, but those are numbers I think you would expect to see from a middle/pin hybrid and I thought hitting better out of system would be a better determiner of how she’s progressed as a true pin. 4) Would love to see Kahahawai win the spot and thrive. If she looks elsewhere and thrives, great! I’ve followed her game since she was a high school Freshman and want to see her put a team on her back because I know she’s capable. Lol it was weird when people here started listing Hawaii players that went to Texas as if it was some sort of diss to Hawaii. But I think it just helps to disseminate “homer fans” from actual fans of the game. I wouldn’t be concerned with accolades either if I was a Hawaii fan. Also anyone who’s watched Molly’s career knows she’s improved tremendously both in and out of system. She’s improved her arm swing. She’s never going to be a Kipp type player, but you can’t really say she hasn’t improved. Lol ok girl keep squawking, you’re the only one in this making it about Hawaii vs Texas.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Feb 14, 2023 12:35:02 GMT -5
I wouldn’t be concerned with accolades either if I was a Hawaii fan. Also anyone who’s watched Molly’s career knows she’s improved tremendously both in and out of system. She’s improved her arm swing. She’s never going to be a Kipp type player, but you can’t really say she hasn’t improved. Lol ok girl keep squawking, you’re the only one in this making it about Hawaii vs Texas. Are you actually delusional? This whole thing started by you comparing your coaches magical ability to develop players to ours.
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 13:12:13 GMT -5
Lol ok girl keep squawking, you’re the only one in this making it about Hawaii vs Texas. Are you actually delusional? This whole thing started by you comparing your coaches magical ability to develop players to ours. Literally not what happened but go off.
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Post by stevehorn on Feb 14, 2023 13:31:03 GMT -5
Are you actually delusional? This whole thing started by you comparing your coaches magical ability to develop players to ours. Literally not what happened but go off. Literally yes. You can't even remember what you have written previously.
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