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Post by tudbud on Feb 14, 2023 21:14:18 GMT -5
Just calming the water downs from the feisty discussions: -What a great year to be a National Champion. -We are indeed going to get crushed in sand vb but is gonna be fun right? š -Who is going to Hawaiāiā? I wanna go -just came back from vacation and why do we need full time jobs?
*exhale*
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 14, 2023 22:02:09 GMT -5
You made that whole stupid ass post on the presumption that anyone takes the Big12 being a JV league as a serious statement. But go ahead, set your own argument parameters so you come out on top or whatever. Maybe you should try making an argument instead of posting a stupid opinion with no facts and b&tching no one is countering you with facts to your ever changing point. Oh I forgot Molly canāt hit out system is your proof JE canāt develop talent. Well done, I stand corrected. WTF The entire argument went off of why one would THINK that. I gave my examples of where i thought those players who were used as counter examples had somewhat incomplete games at least in my opinion but also acknowledged the ones who had grown undeniably under JE. The issue you all seem to be having is you interpreting what I said in a way that riled you up when I didnāt have any interest in that. I never once said that JE is a bad coach who canāt develop talent. Itās definitely been said on here but not by me. I said that from a non homerās perspective, itās worthy of debate. Thatās it. But a lot of you simply were not able to see anything but red (or burnt orange?) and proceeded to trash the Hawaii program, even though yours wasnāt being trashed. Questioned yes, trashed, definitely not. Anyways, I had a civil back and forth with 2 of you who arenāt reactionary bandwagoning ass weirdos, so Iām good. Feel free to never reply to me again, or keep replying. Doesnāt matter either way. Just running around in circles at this point.
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Post by tudbud on Feb 14, 2023 23:34:34 GMT -5
Okay so Iām re-studying for the LSAT to become a tutor: allow me to nerd out a bit on the arguments weāre having in this thread. A lot of people like coming onto this thread and saying that JE is a ābadā coach or isnāt a āgoodā coach. 1) weāve got a definitional problem here. What is a good coach or a bad coach? Everyone has their own definitionsāpost-season success, individual player development, recruiting, overall program management. Very few people actually say what their definition is up front. I suspect many donāt know, and if theyāre not specific, they get to ignore any contrary evidence and go āwell, heās not good at THIS thing.ā 2) āJE isnāt a good coachā is a conclusion. We need support for that conclusion. I have seen only like four reasons for this conclusion across all the threads Iāve been on. Note: Iām not saying anyone currently on this thread has said all of these. A) āheās not a good coach. If he was, he would have won more national championships.ā First, this is severely weakened by the second NC. You can argue he should have won more (how many more?? Be specific) but two in ten years is elite and puts him in a very small group of coaches. It also disqualifies many of your faves from being āgood coachesā B) āheās not a good coach. Just look at him/the way he coaches.ā Uhhh. It should be obvious that this isnāt a valid argument. Or really an argument at all. That doesnāt stop people C) āheās not a good coach. He doesnāt develop players.ā This isnāt so much support for the argument as it is an entire separate conclusion that needs its own support. Players have developed at Texas. Whether they would have developed more at other programs is a counter factual that canāt ever actually take place (if a player transfers and improves at another program, there is no guarantee they wouldnāt have improved just as much at Texas). There is also the definitional issue aboveāif good coach = player development, you should 1) state that upfront and 2) clarify how good of a developer you need to beāpresumably you donāt have to be the best developer to be a good coach, otherwise thereās one good coach in the country. D) āheās not a good coach. Everyone on Volleytalk who isnāt a Longhorn homer would agree with me.ā 1) would they? Really? Every single poster? Doubtful. 2) ah, the 1000 Frenchmen canāt be wrong defense. First, volleytalk isnāt really the most impartial place to poll people. And a lot of people on here have sour grapes. Second, other groups of people with arguably higher expertise have voted JE Coach of the Year in his conference and nationally. Hypothetically polling a bunch of randos on an Internet forum isnāt the slam dunk you think it is Iām getting offline for today, so feel free to formulate other reasons in my absence. Just be ready to defend, to a bunch of Texas fans, whatever your reasoning is. Iād say people could ALL agree on JE developing young women all the way around. Thatās to me a good coach. The Texas girls seem to LOVE being in the program; overall in his 22 years coaching UT heās taken in some broken players and turned them around as young ladies. Are we strictly speaking of wins and losses in Vb? Or are we looking at overall culture heās created? In my book, gotta give it to the man. Heās kinda remarkable, groundbreaking and innovative if you wish. Thatās probably why heās hated on. Runs that program as a business and people love working with him. He loves his team and has a gilded reputation tracking back to his USC days. My two cents.
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Feb 15, 2023 1:20:53 GMT -5
Anyone else see Asjia say ānewest member of MBU??ā Under Jordyn Byrdās post?š does this mean she is possibly moving to the middle?
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Feb 15, 2023 1:25:10 GMT -5
Also saw that the new sand staff will be hired in May and recruiting for sand athletes will begin as soon as the staff is hired. Sorry if itās been said already I didnāt feel like reading through all these pages to see.
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Post by slxpress on Feb 15, 2023 1:34:13 GMT -5
Also saw that the new sand staff will be hired in May and recruiting for sand athletes will begin as soon as the staff is hired. Sorry if itās been said already I didnāt feel like reading through all these pages to see. Elliott's comments have indicated he already knows who the head coach is going to be. Apparently he's excited about welcoming her to the 40 acres. I, on the other hand, have no idea who it is.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Feb 15, 2023 1:37:30 GMT -5
Also saw that the new sand staff will be hired in May and recruiting for sand athletes will begin as soon as the staff is hired. Sorry if itās been said already I didnāt feel like reading through all these pages to see. Elliott's comments have indicated he already knows who the head coach is going to be. Apparently he's excited about welcoming her to the 40 acres. I, on the other hand, have no idea who it is.Ā Holly McPeak? She called a lot of our games last year, spent a bunch of time in Austin. No tea, just speculation.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Feb 15, 2023 1:55:31 GMT -5
Anyone else see Asjia say ānewest member of MBU??ā Under Jordyn Byrdās post?š does this mean she is possibly moving to the middle? She seems to have the athleticism to make the switch from what Iāve seen. If MBU can turn YBG into a middle, why not Byrd? The middle will be the position thats most up for grabs after this upcoming season.
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Post by katn on Feb 15, 2023 2:25:51 GMT -5
Elliott's comments have indicated he already knows who the head coach is going to be. Apparently he's excited about welcoming her to the 40 acres. I, on the other hand, have no idea who it is.Ā Holly McPeak? She called a lot of our games last year, spent a bunch of time in Austin. No tea, just speculation. i was wondering too if it's holly but maybe it's someone currently coaching beach & they need to wait until the season is over in may...i'm curious who it will be
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Post by moondog4444 on Feb 15, 2023 3:42:39 GMT -5
Ut holds first ever Beach Volleyball practice today
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Post by BOBÅ”koviÄ on Feb 15, 2023 5:40:23 GMT -5
Anyone else see Asjia say ānewest member of MBU??ā Under Jordyn Byrdās post?š does this mean she is possibly moving to the middle? I feel like they are moving her around. There are pics on her IG that have her passing in serve receive w skinner and akana and also pics of her blocking right and middle.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Feb 15, 2023 9:00:29 GMT -5
A pretty good article "for the Statesman"
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Post by slxpress on Feb 15, 2023 9:13:49 GMT -5
A pretty good article "for the Statesman"
Don't be messin' with Danny Davis. That man is a treasure. I know he didn't write this article, but he's the main writer for UT women's sports. I love that guy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 9:21:25 GMT -5
A pretty good article "for the Statesman"
am i the only one who felt like they were implying this was Mollyās last season at Texas. I know itās not but it just read that way to me. Like she wonāt be back for the 2023 indoor season.
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Post by slxpress on Feb 15, 2023 9:23:53 GMT -5
A pretty good article "for the Statesman"
am i the only one who felt like they were implying this was Mollyās last season at Texas. I know sheās not but it just read that way to me. Like she wonāt be back for the 2023 indoor season. It was worded weird. But then again, according to the article thereās only one player who plays 6 rotations on an indoor team. I just chalked it up to the writer not knowing what sheās talking about. And beach could very well be Mollyās last hurrah...next year.
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