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Post by 25or624 on Aug 20, 2023 21:03:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the overall rankings, but I'll go out on a limb and say Minnesota finishes higher than Nebraska in THE BIG [but not higher than The Badgers].
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 20, 2023 21:13:15 GMT -5
I'm pretty scared for Michigan lol
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Post by pcll0718 on Aug 20, 2023 21:22:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty scared for Michigan lol Agreed. Rutgers 12th Michigan 13th Iowa 14th
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Post by Kingsley on Aug 20, 2023 22:07:31 GMT -5
Time to rank B1G teams by how difficult it was to preview them. Hardest at the top, easiest at the bottom. Factors include: - how convoluted the 2022 lineup was - how convoluted the 2023 lineup probably will be - how familiar I was with the team already. How much I watched last year, remembered, etc. - how much I hate the team's website. Includes availability of information, record books, other stuff - availability of VT sources who do great investigative work on their own teams, helping me understand what is even going on Congrats to the winners!
(you're all winners)Some users on here cost their teams a spot or two. They know who they are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 22:51:25 GMT -5
HAWKS 2nd in the BIG 10!! Waaahooooo
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Post by photos1 on Aug 20, 2023 23:30:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty scared for Michigan lol Why? You get what you earn. The Michigan AD/administation fired a good coaching staff and replaced them with what can only be described as inexperienced buffoonery. Erin Virtue has no college head coaching experience in the best conference in the country-that is a year away from getting better. She signed on with a Michigan athletic department that has available top tier resources but who do not support volleyball in a manner similar to most of the volleyball programs in the B1G. The venue Michigan primarily plays in is not worthy of this conference. And the truth is, because of the lack of institutional support for the Michigan vb program, they were never going to improve on Mark Rosen. It was clear 18 months ago that Michigan volleyball was falling woofully behind other B1G programs in just basic assistance and resources, but with the addition of the four PAC12 schools, they are even further behind. Michigan and Rutgers appear set to fight it out for last place in the conference this season. That never happened under Rosen. Curious, how many fans in Michigan claiming to have attended their Blue-White scrimmage?
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Post by rjaege on Aug 21, 2023 3:28:47 GMT -5
I'm pretty scared for Michigan lol Why? You get what you earn. The Michigan AD/administation fired a good coaching staff and replaced them with what can only be described as inexperienced buffoonery. Erin Virtue has no college head coaching experience in the best conference in the country-that is a year away from getting better. She signed on with a Michigan athletic department that has available top tier resources but who do not support volleyball in a manner similar to most of the volleyball programs in the B1G. The venue Michigan primarily plays in is not worthy of this conference. And the truth is, because of the lack of institutional support for the Michigan vb program, they were never going to improve on Mark Rosen. It was clear 18 months ago that Michigan volleyball was falling woofully behind other B1G programs in just basic assistance and resources, but with the addition of the four PAC12 schools, they are even further behind. Michigan and Rutgers appear set to fight it out for last place in the conference this season. That never happened under Rosen. Curious, how many fans in Michigan claiming to have attended their Blue-White scrimmage? That's not MI's school colors, although you are half right. Better than average, this time ...
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Post by bprtbone on Aug 21, 2023 7:22:00 GMT -5
Why? You get what you earn. The Michigan AD/administation fired a good coaching staff and replaced them with what can only be described as inexperienced buffoonery. Erin Virtue has no college head coaching experience in the best conference in the country-that is a year away from getting better. She signed on with a Michigan athletic department that has available top tier resources but who do not support volleyball in a manner similar to most of the volleyball programs in the B1G. The venue Michigan primarily plays in is not worthy of this conference. And the truth is, because of the lack of institutional support for the Michigan vb program, they were never going to improve on Mark Rosen. It was clear 18 months ago that Michigan volleyball was falling woofully behind other B1G programs in just basic assistance and resources, but with the addition of the four PAC12 schools, they are even further behind. Michigan and Rutgers appear set to fight it out for last place in the conference this season. That never happened under Rosen. Curious, how many fans in Michigan claiming to have attended their Blue-White scrimmage? I'm not sure why I'm bothering given the source, but just because this is so annoying: - "inexperienced buffoonery". OC of the Gold Medal winning USWNT; 12 years as an AC at Loyola, Cinci, Michigan and Northwestern. Went to the Final 4 when she was AC at Michigan. Director of USA National Development Team. The two assistants she hired both have D1 and international head coaching experience. - "no college head coaching experience". Since when did this become a requisite? Her resume is much more complete than Tamas, JFO or Hughes, all hired without HC experience. - "athletic department that has available top tier resources but who do not support volleyball in a manner similar to most of the volleyball programs in the B1G". I would put Michigan's student athlete support systems up against anyone's in the country. - "The venue Michigan primarily plays in is not worthy of this conference." Cliff Keen is an embarrassment, but they are playing half of their home matches at the Crisler Center on new Taraflex. - "Curious, how many fans in Michigan claiming to have attended their Blue-White scrimmage?" There were several hundred in attendance on Saturday, including me. That's several hundred more than Michigan State, who didn't even bother having a public scrimmage. I'm excited to see what Erin can do with a program that had become stagnant under the Rosen's. Yes, it's probably going to look a little ugly this season, but she is bringing new energy and focus that I hope will pay dividends in future seasons.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Aug 21, 2023 17:57:17 GMT -5
I'm pretty scared for Michigan lol Agreed. Rutgers 12th Michigan 13th Iowa 14th I understand the fear but in what universe is Rutgers finishing ahead of two teams? 😭
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Post by JT on Aug 21, 2023 18:12:52 GMT -5
Agreed. Rutgers 12th Michigan 13th Iowa 14th I understand the fear but in what universe is Rutgers finishing ahead of two teams? 😭 Volleytalk has them tied for 7th in this very thread!!!
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Aug 21, 2023 18:48:48 GMT -5
I understand the fear but in what universe is Rutgers finishing ahead of two teams? 😭 Volleytalk has them tied for 7th in this very thread!!! RIP Ohio State
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Aug 21, 2023 20:44:08 GMT -5
She's been respectful of the school, its alumni and the history of the program. She's been transparent about her commitment to the USWNT. She's been intentional with who and why she has hired as her assistants and staff. She attended Andrea Grant's memorial service with the Rosen's. She has sung the praises of Michigan's student athlete development programs. She has expressed the way she wants to build a new culture and to train. She has above all put the student athletes first in almost everything she has said and done to this point. She wants what is best for each athlete beyond what we see on the court. It is clear that she loves the sport and knows what she is talking about. I could go on. My favorite interview that she has done so far is the Master Coach Weekly Buzz one she did with Cathy George, Mick Haley and company. I encourage you to check it out if you haven't already. Make no mistake, this is going to a tough year for the program. But I think Michigan made the best hire they could have. Michigan doesn't deserve her until they fix/replace that embarrassing place they call their home court. I hope that they do that sooner rather than later. Come on. It is a historical and legendary Big Ten sports complex, with unique architectural concepts. The Wolverines need to host more sports in Cliff Keen, not fewer.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Aug 21, 2023 20:49:40 GMT -5
So she isn’t ranking Beason because she’s a transfer from out-of-conference? She’s definitely a top 5 player and Nebraska with only their libero on the list is quite odd. But her libero bias definitely shows because schoolyard pick, I can guarantee Murr and Lexi aren’t getting picked ahead of any of the pins on this list (or Wucherer/Orzol/Krause for that matter).
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Post by gopherfan15 on Aug 21, 2023 22:31:20 GMT -5
So she isn’t ranking Beason because she’s a transfer from out-of-conference? She’s definitely a top 5 player and Nebraska with only their libero on the list is quite odd. But her libero bias definitely shows because schoolyard pick, I can guarantee Murr and Lexi aren’t getting picked ahead of any of the pins on this list (or Wucherer/Orzol/Krause for that matter). Who's the top 3 left? I can only think of Mac Prodraza and Taylor Landfair. Nevermind. Lexi Rodriguez hasn't been up there yet.
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Post by tablealgebra on Aug 22, 2023 0:25:13 GMT -5
So she isn’t ranking Beason because she’s a transfer from out-of-conference? She’s definitely a top 5 player and Nebraska with only their libero on the list is quite odd. But her libero bias definitely shows because schoolyard pick, I can guarantee Murr and Lexi aren’t getting picked ahead of any of the pins on this list (or Wucherer/Orzol/Krause for that matter). I'd like to see her explain that. Not ranking freshman is pretty reasonable, though even if you tried to I think it would be only Harper Murray, and in the high teens. But anyway, Beason's track record justifies a Top 10 ranking, and if you're ranking transfers I don't see how it makes a difference where they come from. (I'm sure some Gopher fan will chime in saying Zeynep deserves to be top 5)
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