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Post by photos1 on Oct 17, 2023 7:51:16 GMT -5
Iowa can get 55,646 to a WBB game but only gets around 1000 to a volleyball match…. Iowa WBB has Caitlin Clark. Not really a fair comparison. There are no Caitlin Clark level celebrities in the entirety of NCAA women’s volleyball. Iowa is in the best volleyball conference in the country, Iowa is by any standard an attractive university for any prospective student athlete, yet after 2 years Barnes has unquestionably the worst roster in the conference, something that with the portal should be impossible, Iowa has an RPI of 212, and dropping… Barnes doesn’t seem to have caught on that the players he recruited for Tulane will not suffice in the B1G. Iowa should be further along than they are, they just aren’t. How long do you stay with what was clearly a bad hire? Sorry… *the Clark level of stardom only exploded during a three week period 6 months ago, during her 3 prior seasons at Iowa she was just a very good player in the B1G… NCAA volleyball may not yet have a Clark level celebrity, yet, but they have a team of “celebrity level” players who drew 95,003 fans to watch them play an outside volleyball game. . . We’ll see how it goes… 🏐
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Post by gohawks on Oct 17, 2023 8:16:28 GMT -5
If memory serves me right, and believe me, it does not always do so, Barnes signed a 7 year contract--I can't see any way he is not coaching at Iowa next year.
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Post by definitelymaybe on Oct 17, 2023 8:33:29 GMT -5
Iowa WBB has Caitlin Clark. Not really a fair comparison. There are no Caitlin Clark level celebrities in the entirety of NCAA women’s volleyball. Iowa is in the best volleyball conference in the country, Iowa is by any standard an attractive university for any prospective student athlete, yet after 2 years Barnes has unquestionably the worst roster in the conference, something that with the portal should not be impossible, Iowa has an RPI of 212, and dropping… Barnes doesn’t seem to have caught on that the players he recruited for Tulane will not suffice in the B1G. Iowa should be further along than they are, they just aren’t. How long do you stay with what was clearly a bad hire? Sorry… Being a season ticket holder, it's not entertaining & not worth the 2 hours of drive time there & back to watch the product being put on the floor. There are plans for a volleyball only practice facility & athletes performance center which should help recruiting but those are likely a few years away. I would think Barnes gets another year but who knows. Too many players on the roster trying to compete at a level they don't have the ability for.
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Post by gohawks on Oct 17, 2023 16:46:27 GMT -5
I think he probably gets 2 more years after this—he obviously needs to upgrade the roster. The hitters are closer to big ten caliber this year, but the team must pass better and improve the location of sets. If he can upgrade the roster through the incoming freshman class and the portal, Iowa has a chance to improve. Time will tell. I’m also a season ticket holder—thankfully only about a 15 minute drive to the arena. 😀. Some volleyball NIL money would help upgrade the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 19:39:28 GMT -5
You guys are dumb. In the middle of the 2nd year where they had to completely overhaul the entire roster and program and come back from ncaa sanctions. I’ve never heard of a 7 year contract in VB but they get at least 5 in this type of scenario.
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Post by potato518 on Oct 17, 2023 19:55:34 GMT -5
I’ve been to Iowa’s campus once and it’s great - when has Iowa ever been good can someone make a pretty stat of the last 10 years or something
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Post by gohawks on Oct 17, 2023 20:12:45 GMT -5
You guys are dumb. In the middle of the 2nd year where they had to completely overhaul the entire roster and program and come back from ncaa sanctions. I’ve never heard of a 7 year contract in VB but they get at least 5 in this type of scenario. Prime—I agree, I think he gets a number of years because this is an entire rebuild. You can’t make a determination after only 18 months. I still think he has what it takes to get the job done. He took Baylor to the tournament and improved Tulane. It will take time however.
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Post by hawkfan on Oct 17, 2023 22:41:36 GMT -5
Trust me...I am as frustrated as anyone by this season thus far as well. I certainly have many concerns so understand others who share those. There is no "but" coming...those are all quite legitimate, in my purview.
I do also feel that in any sort of rebuild of this magnitude (again...of this magnitude...it's immense), ensuring that a new coaching staff has a chance to show what can happen with their own true recruits is important. Yes, the transfer portal is a HUGE source of talent. I get that and agree that Barnes needs to be very intentional and more effective in attempting to secure the right fits and talent level to find immediate adds (Buettner and Moravec, as examples). But the portal is not the same to me as recruits who commit to a program because they have formed a relationship with a coaching staff and overall program throughout their recruiting process. A staff needs to nowadays find talent from both areas.
So, given that, I want to see what can happen in at least 2024 with the incoming athletes who are committing to the program and this staff from the onset. I think all can agree that without question, our biggest areas of concern this season have been setting and passing. I am not saying Meitzler will be an All-B1G setter, but she sure will bring a far more extensive, successful resume to the table next year than the setters we have now (NOTE: I very much like Mateo and Ortega as players and teammates...I just don't think the setting skill set for either is close that what is needed to compete in the B1G). I'd like to see what OHs Moravec, Garcia, Phills (and perhaps Worden is she gets healthy...and even McGrew in 2025, if we get that far) can do with more consistent setting. Same with middles, too, obviously. So many points right now are there for the taking and an inaccurate and/or ill-advised set takes us out of the chance to score. I'd like to think that will improve next year and make a difference.
We also clearly need more highly-skilled passers (understatement). Marquardt comes fairly highly regarded in this area but she will not be enough on her own. We also are sorely in need of more athletic talent in the middle. So, translated: Barnes needs to more expertly find the balance of new recruits and portal finds...and quickly.
And lastly, this season is not over. Nope, there will be no NCAA berth...not even close...and it appears there will likely be no improvement in Iowa's conference standings position. But to me, seeing how this coaching staff can keep this 2023 team improving and motivated given the significant level of current frustration and adversity, will give us insight into whether they have what it takes to stay in the B1G. Same goes for whether or not those on the current roster who DO have the talent level to compete in the B1G will choose to stay at Iowa.
All just my two cents here. Go Hawks.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 17, 2023 22:54:10 GMT -5
Bond’s second year with the program had them 2-18 (a feat likely to be matched). It took until his third season to show significant process, with two ranked B1G wins and the program’s first winning season since 2000.
Barnes gets some more time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 23:53:46 GMT -5
There’s no way he left his home state to come to Iowa, a program with decades of issues, and major issues recently, including ncaa issues, without major assurances and time frame. So the 7 years sounds about right that Iowa would offer that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2023 9:33:40 GMT -5
Bond’s second year with the program had them 2-18 (a feat likely to be matched). It took until his third season to show significant process, with two ranked B1G wins and the program’s first winning season since 2000. Barnes gets some more time. This is a good point. Bond was a really good coach and he didn’t take over the level of issues Barnes has. Iowa wants consistency and good culture as much, if not more, than winning right now. I see this program getting that and much more down the road.
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Post by volleynerd on Oct 18, 2023 17:21:05 GMT -5
back and forth between Michigan and Michigan State
14-14 in the first
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2023 17:24:09 GMT -5
Even though neither of these teams are in the national picture it’s still a fun match to watch.
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Post by slxpress on Oct 18, 2023 17:35:33 GMT -5
Even though neither of these teams are in the national picture it’s still a fun match to watch. Is it? I'm watching and all I can think is how terrible this is. I honestly hadn't followed closely enough to realize Michigan is 3-14 this year. My goodness.
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Post by slxpress on Oct 18, 2023 17:37:53 GMT -5
Love the promo for the match on Saturday. That's good stuff.
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