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Post by maigrey on Oct 27, 2023 13:59:01 GMT -5
2. Is it fair that some schools get a lot more visibility via the B1G Network than other schools? Obviously, Nebraska matches will receive better ratings, but is it fair to the other schools that they don't get the same visibility?
BTN is a for-profit business as part of FOX; they don't care about 'fair', they care about ratings and how much advertising revenue they can bring in with a game. Nebraska's viewing numbers have about 200K more eyeballs on them than any other match they show (see the TV ratings thread), so they will get more BTN games than the others. It's just business sense. From some of the matches that BTN has on the network vs. B1G+, I imagine that there is a minimum number of games that a school does get on BTN vs B1G+. Otherwise, you would likely see tonight's BTN match would be the MD vs NEB instead of the PSU vs MICH that's on tonight. Also, the Purdue v. Illinois would probably be a 'better' game to watch (my opinion) than PSU vs MSU.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 27, 2023 14:24:18 GMT -5
2. Is it fair that some schools get a lot more visibility via the B1G Network than other schools? Obviously, Nebraska matches will receive better ratings, but is it fair to the other schools that they don't get the same visibility?
BTN is a for-profit business as part of FOX; they don't care about 'fair', they care about ratings and how much advertising revenue they can bring in with a game. Nebraska's viewing numbers have about 200K more eyeballs on them than any other match they show (see the TV ratings thread), so they will get more BTN games than the others. It's just business sense. From some of the matches that BTN has on the network vs. B1G+, I imagine that there is a minimum number of games that a school does get on BTN vs B1G+. Otherwise, you would likely see tonight's BTN match would be the MD vs NEB instead of the PSU vs MICH that's on tonight. Also, the Purdue v. Illinois would probably be a 'better' game to watch (my opinion) than PSU vs MSU. Let’s just hope that Michigan decides to take Mruzik’s transfer personally and makes it a fun match tonight 😂 I can see Michigan State challenging Penn State; they’ve won more sets against Nebraska than Penn State has at least.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Oct 27, 2023 14:29:35 GMT -5
- It's interesting to see Podraza and Landfair on your 2nd team and not the 1st, considering where they placed last year.
- Your All-Freshman team seems spot-on
- It's also interesting to see the "glue" (mortar?) players like Schermerhorn and Orzol get less consideration, despite holding teams together. Now that I know more about volleyball (thank you, VT) I see perfect serve receive/passes resulting in okay sets resulting in not-so-great kills and think, "The first touch should really get credit for that point." Yeah, I know it's a very-team sport...which is why I love it.
For Podraza, while she’s put up huge assist numbers, nearly half of those are through Mruzik alone, so I’m not that impressed with her distribution as a setter. Her serving has looked better this year, so I’ll give her that. For Landfair, she’s been playing better than when I watched her in person at the Big 10/PAC 12 challenge, but 1) I’m still not convinced by her backcourt play this year and 2) she’s not carrying the same kind of load that Londot or Terry are for their teams right now. The Big 10 is VERY pin heavy this year, which is why I wasn’t able to fit Schermerhorn or Orzol onto my first-team lists. I think they’re certainly deserving, but we’ve seen before that awards committees have a tendency to overlook Liberos for the major honors. If I had to move one of them up, I’d go with Orzol because she has done wonderfully at a new position this year. With respect to Mac, no way for her serving to get any worse.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 27, 2023 14:43:27 GMT -5
For Podraza, while she’s put up huge assist numbers, nearly half of those are through Mruzik alone, so I’m not that impressed with her distribution as a setter. Her serving has looked better this year, so I’ll give her that. For Landfair, she’s been playing better than when I watched her in person at the Big 10/PAC 12 challenge, but 1) I’m still not convinced by her backcourt play this year and 2) she’s not carrying the same kind of load that Londot or Terry are for their teams right now. The Big 10 is VERY pin heavy this year, which is why I wasn’t able to fit Schermerhorn or Orzol onto my first-team lists. I think they’re certainly deserving, but we’ve seen before that awards committees have a tendency to overlook Liberos for the major honors. If I had to move one of them up, I’d go with Orzol because she has done wonderfully at a new position this year. With respect to Mac, no way for her serving to get any worse. You’ve clearly never seen my partner try to serve a volleyball then
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 27, 2023 15:03:41 GMT -5
With respect to Mac, no way for her serving to get any worse. You’ve clearly never seen my partner try to serve a volleyball then That's not fair. The line judge was wrong. The replay clearly showed your partner's last two serves were IN!
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 27, 2023 15:09:39 GMT -5
You’ve clearly never seen my partner try to serve a volleyball then That's not fair. The line judge was wrong. The replay clearly showed your partner's last two serves were IN! While they stayed in court, neither serve cleared the net…
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 27, 2023 15:26:21 GMT -5
Isn't DPOY dig or block stat-based? Like, it's not the best all-around libero/middle award. It's not judged like AVCA All America awards where they look deeply at passing grades and everything else.
Which is why Murr took it last year and (regretfully admitting) Otec took it the year before.
I don't see how Rodriguez is one of the top contenders when she's currently 10th in the B1G for digs per set (and she's hovered around 8 to 10 most of the season). We all know she's a great libero who does more than dig balls (and that teams are purposely avoiding her because of her skillset), but unless it's given solely by name recognition, there's quite a few liberos and middles ahead of her for this particular award IMO.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 27, 2023 17:15:09 GMT -5
Isn't DPOY dig or block stat-based? Like, it's not the best all-around libero/middle award. It's not judged like AVCA All America awards where they look deeply at passing grades and everything else. Which is why Murr took it last year and (regretfully admitting) Otec took it the year before. I don't see how Rodriguez is one of the top contenders when she's currently 10th in the B1G for digs per set (and she's hovered around 8 to 10 most of the season). We all know she's a great libero who does more than dig balls (and that teams are purposely avoiding her because of her skillset), but unless it's given solely by name recognition, there's quite a few liberos and middles ahead of her for this particular award IMO. Well that certainly explains a lot. Would hope that the award is more encompassing/dives deeper into stats. If it’s just based on raw numbers, it’s pretty doubtful that Rodriguez would take it, then. I do think her numbers will rise by the end of the season and she’ll more naturally enter the convo, but at this point, a bit of a long shot 😕
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Post by andrewwmic on Oct 27, 2023 17:24:11 GMT -5
This is a great list! From you list, I am narrowing it down to the following for individual awards: POTY Merritt Beason, Nebraska* Sarah Franklin, Wisconsin SOTY Bergen Reilly, Nebraska Camryn Haworth, Indiana* DPOY Lexi Rodriguez, Nebraska Carter Booth, Wisconsin* FOTY Harper Murray, Nebraska* Chloe Chicoine, Purdue * Projected winner based on current trends Definitely agree with your projected winner picks. I think the closest is the Freshman of the Year. Chicoine’s looked fantastic this year. Looking forward to seeing her against Wisconsin
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Post by gohuskervolleyball on Oct 29, 2023 15:24:05 GMT -5
With a team like Illinois appearing to start peaking and sort of playing the role of a roadblock for other teams potentially making the tourney (Indiana) it really makes me curious on everybody's thoughts regarding the conference right now. Have any of yall had changes of opinions on your rankings recently among the big 10 (excluding Nebraska/Wisconsin obviously) particularly with the mid-tier teams? And at this point do you guys think only 4 teams from the conference would really make it given historically there always seems to be 6 from the Big?
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 29, 2023 15:28:26 GMT -5
With a team like Illinois appearing to start peaking and sort of playing the role of a roadblock for other teams potentially making the tourney (Indiana) it really makes me curious on everybody's thoughts regarding the conference right now. Have any of yall had changes of opinions on your rankings recently among the big 10 (excluding Nebraska/Wisconsin obviously) particularly with the mid-tier teams? And at this point do you guys think only 4 teams from the conference would really make it given historically there always seems to be 6 from the Big? Well Indiana is about to go 5 with Northwestern and Ohio State just lost to Michigan, so I'd say it's definitely a mess after #1 and #2 and it'll be a 4-team NCAA year unless Minnesota does something miraculous.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 29, 2023 15:36:53 GMT -5
With a team like Illinois appearing to start peaking and sort of playing the role of a roadblock for other teams potentially making the tourney (Indiana) it really makes me curious on everybody's thoughts regarding the conference right now. Have any of yall had changes of opinions on your rankings recently among the big 10 (excluding Nebraska/Wisconsin obviously) particularly with the mid-tier teams? And at this point do you guys think only 4 teams from the conference would really make it given historically there always seems to be 6 from the Big? I think it’s an at minimum 5 team conference (Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, and Minnesota). Outside of those five, who knows at this point. What helps the Big 10 is that there’s a LOT of mess in other 05 conferences right now, so maybe a team like Indiana, Illinois, or Michigan State can take advantage of the messiness. Nebraska and Wisconsin have been the top of the sport so far this season, but the rest of the Big 10 is going through a dark age.
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 29, 2023 15:49:30 GMT -5
Welp Indiana lost to Northwestern in 5, so they're out.
Minnesota, it's all on you.
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Post by gohuskervolleyball on Oct 29, 2023 16:07:09 GMT -5
Welp Indiana lost to Northwestern in 5, so they're out. Minnesota, it's all on you. ooop
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Post by bprtbone on Oct 29, 2023 17:24:43 GMT -5
B1G Standings - 10/29/23 Team | Conference | Overall | Nebraska | 12-0 | 21-0 | Wisconsin | 11-1 | 20-1 | Penn State | 9-3 | 15-6 | Purdue | 8-4 | 14-7 | Illinois | 7-5 | 12-10 | Indiana | 6-6 | 16-9 | Michigan State | 6-6 | 14-9 | Minnesota | 6-6 | 10-10 | Maryland | 5-7 | 15-9 | Northwestern | 5-7 | 11-11 | Ohio State | 5-7 | 8-13 | Michigan | 2-10 | 4-17 | Rutgers | 2-10 | 10-12 | Iowa | 0-12 | 8-16 |
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