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Post by slxpress on Jun 13, 2023 18:46:15 GMT -5
Someone posted that the first on line announcement of a commit last year was on June 17th. I remember how frustrating it was to wait through the 15th and the 16th before the shoes started to fall. On the other hand, if an athlete has offers from two of their preferred schools in hand, it's probably prudent to pause and review what you want. Cheers. If I had my druthers any athlete with options would explore their options. But that’s not always realistic. Honestly it’s so much better now than it used to be, with the June 15 date following their sophomore year. Volleyball had gotten so ridiculous how early all the kids were getting locked up. I don’t think there’s a full proof way of knowing what the right fit is when adults’ careers ride on convincing you regarding their program, but at the very least visiting the campus and talking to current players should be the minimum in my opinion, and so often even that doesn’t happen until after the commitment. But that’s okay. It is what it is. I do think it’s better now, and that’s important to me. |
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Post by Friday on Jun 13, 2023 19:25:05 GMT -5
Someone posted that the first on line announcement of a commit last year was on June 17th. I remember how frustrating it was to wait through the 15th and the 16th before the shoes started to fall. On the other hand, if an athlete has offers from two of their preferred schools in hand, it's probably prudent to pause and review what you want. Cheers. If I had my druthers any athlete with options would explore their options. But that’s not always realistic. Honestly it’s so much better now than it used to be, with the June 15 date following their sophomore year. Volleyball had gotten so ridiculous how early all the kids were getting locked up. I don’t think there’s a full proof way of knowing what the right fit is when adults’ careers ride on convincing you regarding their program, but at the very least visiting the campus and talking to current players should be the minimum in my opinion, and so often even that doesn’t happen until after the commitment. But that’s okay. It is what it is. I do think it’s better now, and that’s important to me. That is why there have been alot of camps recently. They get the kids on campus and around current players now so it is easier to pull the trigger sooner. Plus for the top of the class they are going to the program and so what campus looks like or whatever is secondary. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 13, 2023 21:35:20 GMT -5
If I had my druthers any athlete with options would explore their options. But that’s not always realistic. Honestly it’s so much better now than it used to be, with the June 15 date following their sophomore year. Volleyball had gotten so ridiculous how early all the kids were getting locked up. I don’t think there’s a full proof way of knowing what the right fit is when adults’ careers ride on convincing you regarding their program, but at the very least visiting the campus and talking to current players should be the minimum in my opinion, and so often even that doesn’t happen until after the commitment. But that’s okay. It is what it is. I do think it’s better now, and that’s important to me. That is why there have been alot of camps recently. They get the kids on campus and around current players now so it is easier to pull the trigger sooner. Plus for the top of the class they are going to the program and so what campus looks like or whatever is secondary. We’re talking about an ideal world, which we don’t live in. I’d prefer the ladies get the chance to see multiple campuses on official visits. That’s not going to happen in many cases, and I’m okay with that. It’s not a hill I’m going to die on. There are way more important things in this world than whether or not talented volleyball players take multiple visits. |
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Post by vbruh on Jun 14, 2023 9:25:14 GMT -5
As a normal, neutral fan (and by that I mean not a Texas, Nebraska, or Wisconsin fan), can you just imagine the collective freak out those programs would have if Cari Spears went in a different direction? I wonder how an LSU offer + $1M+ NIL deal would land with her? LSU--don't forget her father and mother were all-Americans in Baton Rouge--is currently killing it on NIL.
Just stirrin' the pot...
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Post by huskernmn on Jun 14, 2023 10:48:46 GMT -5
As a normal, neutral fan (and by that I mean not a Texas, Nebraska, or Wisconsin fan), can you just imagine the collective freak out those programs would have if Cari Spears went in a different direction? I wonder how an LSU offer + $1M+ NIL deal would land with her? LSU--don't forget her father and mother were all-Americans in Baton Rouge--is currently killing it on NIL. Just stirrin' the pot... Are you saying Texas and Nebraska are not killing it on NIL? And how many current LSU Vball players have NIL deals greater than $10,000 let alone $1,000,000. |
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Post by haterade on Jun 14, 2023 11:00:35 GMT -5
As a normal, neutral fan (and by that I mean not a Texas, Nebraska, or Wisconsin fan), can you just imagine the collective freak out those programs would have if Cari Spears went in a different direction? I wonder how an LSU offer + $1M+ NIL deal would land with her? LSU--don't forget her father and mother were all-Americans in Baton Rouge--is currently killing it on NIL. Just stirrin' the pot... Are you saying Texas and Nebraska are not killing it on NIL? And how many current LSU Vball players have NIL deals greater than $10,000 let alone $1,000,000. I think they’re just implying if she goes somewhere else it must be due to a large NIL package and speculating about how much it would take. Which are fun questions to ask. |
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Post by jcvball22 on Jun 14, 2023 11:12:22 GMT -5
As a normal, neutral fan (and by that I mean not a Texas, Nebraska, or Wisconsin fan), can you just imagine the collective freak out those programs would have if Cari Spears went in a different direction? I wonder how an LSU offer + $1M+ NIL deal would land with her? LSU--don't forget her father and mother were all-Americans in Baton Rouge--is currently killing it on NIL. Just stirrin' the pot... Are you saying Texas and Nebraska are not killing it on NIL? And how many current LSU Vball players have NIL deals greater than $10,000 let alone $1,000,000. HEAVEN FORBID Nebraska not be the best and someone else may be able to do something better. CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE?!? The person is talking about a hypothetical based on NIL deals going to women's basketball. Try not to lose you mind. |
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Post by horns1 on Jun 14, 2023 11:18:40 GMT -5
As a normal, neutral fan (and by that I mean not a Texas, Nebraska, or Wisconsin fan), can you just imagine the collective freak out those programs would have if Cari Spears went in a different direction? I wonder how an LSU offer + $1M+ NIL deal would land with her? LSU--don't forget her father and mother were all-Americans in Baton Rouge--is currently killing it on NIL. Just stirrin' the pot... Anything is possible. Let's see if she camps at LSU or visits there. She's pretty quiet on social media; so, will be tough to confirm. |
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Post by mma40027002 on Jun 14, 2023 11:21:22 GMT -5
Are you saying Texas and Nebraska are not killing it on NIL? And how many current LSU Vball players have NIL deals greater than $10,000 let alone $1,000,000. HEAVEN FORBID Nebraska not be the best and someone else may be able to do something better. CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE?!? The person is talking about a hypothetical based on NIL deals going to women's basketball. Try not to lose you mind. I believe the highest paid female from NIL is, indeed, a gymnast from LSU (Olivia Dunne). Not a volleyball player but still an athlete from LSU. Maybe someone is making more, but she is the female athlete I've heard the most about (and I don't even follow gymnastics). |
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Post by 2Close4Missiles on Jun 14, 2023 12:50:48 GMT -5
HEAVEN FORBID Nebraska not be the best and someone else may be able to do something better. CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE?!? The person is talking about a hypothetical based on NIL deals going to women's basketball. Try not to lose you mind. I believe the highest paid female from NIL is, indeed, a gymnast from LSU (Olivia Dunne). Not a volleyball player but still an athlete from LSU. Maybe someone is making more, but she is the female athlete I've heard the most about (and I don't even follow gymnastics). You're right, she is, but this is a little apples-to-oranges. Livvy's not getting deals because of what she brings to LSU gymnastics |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jun 14, 2023 12:53:01 GMT -5
HEAVEN FORBID Nebraska not be the best and someone else may be able to do something better. CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE?!? The person is talking about a hypothetical based on NIL deals going to women's basketball. Try not to lose you mind. I believe the highest paid female from NIL is, indeed, a gymnast from LSU (Olivia Dunne). Not a volleyball player but still an athlete from LSU. Maybe someone is making more, but she is the female athlete I've heard the most about (and I don't even follow gymnastics). Yeah but that's not from a collective or the school She has a ton of followers and makes her own deals |
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 14, 2023 13:36:17 GMT -5
I believe the highest paid female from NIL is, indeed, a gymnast from LSU (Olivia Dunne). Not a volleyball player but still an athlete from LSU. Maybe someone is making more, but she is the female athlete I've heard the most about (and I don't even follow gymnastics). Yeah but that's not from a collective or the school She has a ton of followers and makes her own deals As it should be. I dislike these collectives and I think it goes against the spirit of NIL. That goes for Nebraska too. If private firms want to produce platforms making it easier for athletes to connect with sales reps, that's great. However, it's already devolving into a near-direct pay-for-play situation. These collectives are not remotely interested in how much value-add these athletes' endorsements are generating. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 14, 2023 13:40:11 GMT -5
Yeah but that's not from a collective or the school She has a ton of followers and makes her own deals As it should be. I dislike these collectives and I think it goes against the spirit of NIL. That goes for Nebraska too. If private firms want to produce platforms making it easier for athletes to connect with sales reps, that's great. However, it's already devolving into a near-direct pay-for-play situation. These collectives are not remotely interested in how much value-add these athletes' endorsements are generating. There’s no way to enforce it. Either you allow payments or you don’t. Asking a third party enforcement body to determine if a deal is a legitimate deal done to benefit a charitable organization or to help market a product/service has hair all over it. |
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 14, 2023 13:42:37 GMT -5
I believe the highest paid female from NIL is, indeed, a gymnast from LSU (Olivia Dunne). Not a volleyball player but still an athlete from LSU. Maybe someone is making more, but she is the female athlete I've heard the most about (and I don't even follow gymnastics). You're right, she is, but this is a little apples-to-oranges. Livvy's not getting deals because of what she brings to LSU gymnastics Right, it’s because she’s almost indistinguishable from a white blonde porn star pretty. |
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 14, 2023 13:42:48 GMT -5
As it should be. I dislike these collectives and I think it goes against the spirit of NIL. That goes for Nebraska too. If private firms want to produce platforms making it easier for athletes to connect with sales reps, that's great. However, it's already devolving into a near-direct pay-for-play situation. These collectives are not remotely interested in how much value-add these athletes' endorsements are generating. There’s no way to enforce it. Either you allow payments or you don’t. Asking a third party enforcement body to determine if a deal is a legitimate deal done to benefit a charitable organization or to help market a product/service has hair all over it. It's definitely messy, but not something that a forensics accountant couldn't easily build a case around. However, the money required to enforce it with that type of scrutiny is why it won't be done, so your point stands. I would add, it's not a hard argument to make that these collectives are not within the spirit of a 501(c)(3) designation and donations should be taxed. |
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