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Post by uofaGRAD on Jun 23, 2023 20:43:54 GMT -5
In other news, the Yale recruiting coordinator’s Twitter is hilarious. Just the whole thing. LMAO this is hilarious
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Post by photos1 on Jun 23, 2023 20:50:51 GMT -5
I mean is it really any different than any other year? NEB and TX gon get theirs. its also photos. i heard he's still rambling about KBB going to Penn State lol You just make things up…lies…a shock to no one… but you know that…
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Post by skyspy on Jun 23, 2023 20:58:47 GMT -5
Sheffield wants grinders that he can develop and has built a program culture that is as good as in the country. He knows how to identify talent that is overlooked by programs only interested in top 5-level player and his players believe in his vision and plan. You don't need the #1 player each year at each position (although it really helps) to win if you develop talent and have a solid culture like UW. The 2024 OH from Canada is as athletic and talented as any top 5 to 10-ranked player in the US and the MB from Poland has huge upside that flies under the radar. The 2025 class has some great pieces to add and several of those recruits are not anywhere near close to their ceilings of potential yet. Look at Louisville and Pitt too, other perfect examples of top culture and systems the players buy in to that results in high level success. Every program has a different model and there is no one size fits all. NU and UT seem to chase rankings for the recruits they target and value, while other programs look for specific types of players to build their team that may or may not have the very highest ranking. So Wisconsin isn’t recruiting Mullen then? I would hope they are because who wouldn't. Point is I am sure they have others at that position that they value highly that are a great fit even if Mullen goes elsewhere. Not saying they are better than Mullen, but rather UW has shown they can develop players that are Mullens.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 23, 2023 21:03:27 GMT -5
In other news, the Yale recruiting coordinator’s Twitter is hilarious. Just the whole thing. I yell bingo every time my food is announced at counter service. It’s best when I put my name as bingo. So it’s “Bingo?” “Bingo!” I also like doing “Marco” “Polo” but that doesn’t have much of a tie in to Wisconsin volleyball recruiting.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jun 23, 2023 21:10:22 GMT -5
its also photos. i heard he's still rambling about KBB going to Penn State lol You just make things up…lies…a shock to no one… but you know that… yep im such a liar. id rather be a "liar" than someone who leaves harassing comments on players/coaches instagram posts... surely that wouldnt be you...
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Post by jwvolley on Jun 23, 2023 21:11:41 GMT -5
So Wisconsin isn’t recruiting Mullen then? Point is I am sure they have others at that position that they value highly that are a great fit even if Mullen goes elsewhere. Nebraska has taken a very close look at Ryan Hunter (and think highly of her) and she's not the only one. Cook, in particular, is also fond of another player at that position. And then take someone like Campbell Flynn. When Flynn and Messer attended the Dream Camp last year, he said they had two of the best showings he'd seen ever at camp by setters of their age. I imagine that had more to do with their recruiting interest than a ranking #. I guess I just think it's a little odd to say Texas and NE "chase" rankings when I'm sure Wisconsin tries for and would take the #1 every year if that player were so inclined.
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Post by horns1 on Jun 23, 2023 21:26:18 GMT -5
Ignore the fan. Sheffield is recruiting great. Four highly thought of high school volleyball players at four positions. The talent at the very top and spreading throughout the conference just creates such competition. Plus the “grind” is growing stronger by the moment. In 2024, two more national championship programs join the madness. Sheffield wants grinders that he can develop and has built a program culture that is as good as in the country. He knows how to identify talent that is overlooked by programs only interested in top 5-level player and his players believe in his vision and plan. You don't need the #1 player each year at each position (although it really helps) to win if you develop talent and have a solid culture like UW. The 2024 OH from Canada is as athletic and talented as any top 5 to 10-ranked player in the US and the MB from Poland has huge upside that flies under the radar. The 2025 class has some great pieces to add and several of those recruits are not anywhere near close to their ceilings of potential yet. Look at Louisville and Pitt too, other perfect examples of top culture and systems the players buy in to that results in high level success. Every program has a different model and there is no one size fits all. NU and UT seem to chase rankings for the recruits they target and value, while other programs look for specific types of players to build their team that may or may not have the very highest ranking. Can you share some hard cold evidence that supports that statement? And, provide a list of the "other programs" so we can all see how thorough your expertise is . . .
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Post by bballin on Jun 24, 2023 8:27:45 GMT -5
Ignore the fan. Sheffield is recruiting great. Four highly thought of high school volleyball players at four positions. The talent at the very top and spreading throughout the conference just creates such competition. Plus the “grind” is growing stronger by the moment. In 2024, two more national championship programs join the madness. NU and UT seem to chase rankings for the recruits they target and value, while other programs look for specific types of players to build their team that may or may not have the very highest ranking. From a team that rely's on the transfer portal year after year.... can Sheff develop talent or is he poaching from other coaches training? 🤔 The reason Sheffs recruiting is trending downwards is because he isn't developing kids anymore. He is trying to run a pro team and it caught up to him. Can he develop kids, yes..... but he isn't focused on that much anymore.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 24, 2023 8:32:08 GMT -5
NU and UT seem to chase rankings for the recruits they target and value, while other programs look for specific types of players to build their team that may or may not have the very highest ranking. From a team that rely's on the transfer portal year after year.... can Sheff develop talent or is he poaching from other coaches training? 🤔 The reason Sheffs recruiting is trending downwards is because he isn't developing kids anymore. He is trying to run a pro team and it caught up to him. Can he develop kids, yes..... but he isn't focused on that much anymore. How is Wisconsin’s recruiting trending downwards? They’re not beating Texas and Nebraska in head to heads, but they’re beating everyone else. Their recruiting looks fine to me. Great even. Edit: not beating Stanford either, per se, but we won’t lnow that because of Stanford’s admission policy until 2025 recruiting is over for the most part. At that point top players who haven’t announced are pretty much Stanford bound and we all know it.
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Post by vergyltantor on Jun 24, 2023 8:41:22 GMT -5
Point is I am sure they have others at that position that they value highly that are a great fit even if Mullen goes elsewhere. Nebraska has taken a very close look at Ryan Hunter (and think highly of her) and she's not the only one. Cook, in particular, is also fond of another player at that position. And then take someone like Campbell Flynn. When Flynn and Messer attended the Dream Camp last year, he said they had two of the best showings he'd seen ever at camp by setters of their age. I imagine that had more to do with their recruiting interest than a ranking #. I guess I just think it's a little odd to say Texas and NE "chase" rankings when I'm sure Wisconsin tries for and would take the #1 every year if that player were so inclined. Ratings services also chase Nebraska and Texas, among others. They see coaches looking at players and think they should give them another look. It is the same as Football. When Alabama or other major colleges look at a player the ratings tend to go up.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 24, 2023 8:47:37 GMT -5
Nebraska has taken a very close look at Ryan Hunter (and think highly of her) and she's not the only one. Cook, in particular, is also fond of another player at that position. And then take someone like Campbell Flynn. When Flynn and Messer attended the Dream Camp last year, he said they had two of the best showings he'd seen ever at camp by setters of their age. I imagine that had more to do with their recruiting interest than a ranking #. I guess I just think it's a little odd to say Texas and NE "chase" rankings when I'm sure Wisconsin tries for and would take the #1 every year if that player were so inclined. Ratings services also chase Nebraska and Texas, among others. They see coaches looking at players and think they should give them another look. It is the same as Football. When Alabama or other major colleges look at a player the ratings tend to go up. I find it odd to disparage the talent identification skills of the UT/Nebraaka coaching staffs, given their respective records of consistent excellence. For programs that only chase rankings, they both seem to be doing remarkably well. I realize Wisconsin has some room to crow vis a vis Nebraska over the last 5 years, but it’s not like the Cornhuskers have fallen off the map in terms of performance. Both programs seem remarkably chock full of talent regardless.
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Post by vergyltantor on Jun 24, 2023 9:09:05 GMT -5
Ratings services also chase Nebraska and Texas, among others. They see coaches looking at players and think they should give them another look. It is the same as Football. When Alabama or other major colleges look at a player the ratings tend to go up. I find it odd to disparage the talent identification skills of the UT/Nebraaka coaching staffs, given their respective records of consistent excellence. For programs that only chase rankings, they both seem to be doing remarkably well. I realize Wisconsin has some room to crow vis a vis Nebraska over the last 5 years, but it’s not like the Cornhuskers have fallen off the map in terms of performance. Both programs seem remarkably chock full of talent regardless. I agree with you about Wisconsin. As a Husker fan I have been taught time and time again to respect the Wisconsin staffs ability to find talented players and help them develop into the best players they can be.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jun 24, 2023 9:09:38 GMT -5
NU and UT seem to chase rankings for the recruits they target and value, while other programs look for specific types of players to build their team that may or may not have the very highest ranking. From a team that rely's on the transfer portal year after year.... can Sheff develop talent or is he poaching from other coaches training? 🤔 The reason Sheffs recruiting is trending downwards is because he isn't developing kids anymore. He is trying to run a pro team and it caught up to him. Can he develop kids, yes..... but he isn't focused on that much anymore. Isn't he one year removed from winning a National championship, and poised to do the same this year? Whatever he's doing seems to be working okay.
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Post by bballin on Jun 24, 2023 10:02:06 GMT -5
From a team that rely's on the transfer portal year after year.... can Sheff develop talent or is he poaching from other coaches training? 🤔 The reason Sheffs recruiting is trending downwards is because he isn't developing kids anymore. He is trying to run a pro team and it caught up to him. Can he develop kids, yes..... but he isn't focused on that much anymore. Isn't he one year removed from winning a National championship, and poised to do the same this year? Whatever he's doing seems to be working okay. He won a championship with 5 or 6 super seniors that were all 21 and 22 years old... and transfers all over. This isn't a negative thing.... but Sheff rely heavy on the portal. Younglings are taking note.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 24, 2023 10:08:19 GMT -5
Isn't he one year removed from winning a National championship, and poised to do the same this year? Whatever he's doing seems to be working okay. He won a championship with 5 or 6 super seniors that were all 21 and 22 years old... and transfers all over. This isn't a negative thing.... but Sheff rely heavy on the portal. Younglings are taking note. I can’t hear you after the he won a national championship part.
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