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Post by uofaGRAD on Apr 28, 2024 10:49:18 GMT -5
according to avid though, her and linda were both better than lubian, who was dominant offensively, from the service line, and was similar or better blocking lol and i'll say it again! agendas aside, if you put Lubian on Scandicci, her numbers wouldve been as bad, if not worse. whatever lol, lubian outplayed freaking fahr this series for the most part who has a real argument for best middle in the world right now. i get it, her blocking isnt up to par with the rest of her game but she hit .433 on the series while racking up multiple aces per match. that was 13284358x more impactful than anything carol or linda did, and arguably more impactful than fahr. you even added the decimal places for everyone elses block touch percentage but left off the 9.7% off for lubian and rounded down to 9% lololol |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2024 10:50:59 GMT -5
and i'll say it again! agendas aside, if you put Lubian on Scandicci, her numbers wouldve been as bad, if not worse. whatever lol, lubian outplayed freaking fahr this series for the most part who has a real argument for best middle in the world right now. i get it, her blocking isnt up to par with the rest of her game but she hit .433 on the series while racking up multiple aces per match. that was 13284358x more impactful than anything carol or linda did, and arguably more impactful than fahr. you even added the decimal places for everyone elses block touch percentage but left off the 9.7% off for lubian and rounded down to 9% lololol Lubian also always seemed to get clutch kills too when she did get set |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Apr 28, 2024 10:51:43 GMT -5
and i'll say it again! agendas aside, if you put Lubian on Scandicci, her numbers wouldve been as bad, if not worse. whatever lol, lubian outplayed freaking fahr this series for the most part who has a real argument for best middle in the world right now. i get it, her blocking isnt up to par with the rest of her game but she hit .433 on the series while racking up multiple aces per match. that was 13284358x more impactful than anything carol or linda did, and arguably more impactful than fahr. you even added the decimal places for everyone elses block touch percentage but left off the 9.7% off for lubian and rounded down to 9% lololol that wasnt on purpose then lol. I genuinely didnt know i did that lol meh. Wolosz didnt use Fahr at all. She hit like .600 in the last two matches of the series. |
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Post by akinradeheaux on Apr 28, 2024 10:51:48 GMT -5
Can you explain what these stats mean? Error I assume means tooled? Block touch % is the amount of attacks they touched. Good touch % is the amount of them that were "Good" (kept the rally alive) Block error means they were tooled or hit the net (i think) For block touch %, is that touched over the total attempts (e.g. jumped)? Or over the number they should've touched (e.g. middles should touch all hitters, pins should only touch their matchup)? I'm wonder what are important stats to index on. Like which stats translate to good block reading? Which translate to good block discipline? |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Apr 28, 2024 10:53:22 GMT -5
Block touch % is the amount of attacks they touched. Good touch % is the amount of them that were "Good" (kept the rally alive) Block error means they were tooled or hit the net (i think) For block touch %, is that touched over the total attempts (e.g. jumped)? Or over the number they _should've_ touched (e.g. middles should touch all hitters, pins should only touch their matchup)? I'm wonder what are important stats to index on. Like which stats translate to good block reading? Which translate to good block discipline? Its their block touches/opponents total attempts. |
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Post by akinradeheaux on Apr 28, 2024 10:56:13 GMT -5
For block touch %, is that touched over the total attempts (e.g. jumped)? Or over the number they _should've_ touched (e.g. middles should touch all hitters, pins should only touch their matchup)? I'm wonder what are important stats to index on. Like which stats translate to good block reading? Which translate to good block discipline? Its their block touches/opponents total attempts. I see. That seems like a pretty skewed metric, then? For pins, you're not realistically going to triple block often, so it favors blockers whose direct matchups get set more. Also you're in back row for half the match, so it also favors players who happen to have more front row opportunities? Good touch and block error % seem like the best stat, unless you're just so late to the block you can't even get a touch on it. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Apr 28, 2024 17:50:28 GMT -5
OHs with over 40% attack this season
1. Plummer 48.8%
2. Kelsey: 44.7%
3. Lee 43.1%
4. Zhu 42.5%
5. Lanier 42.0%
6. Skinner 41.5%
7. Ruddins 40.9%
8. Sylla 40.5%
9. Nika 40.3%
10. Degradi 40.0%
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Post by avid 2.0 on Apr 28, 2024 18:15:45 GMT -5
for all of Zhu's "struggles", she still hit .354 on the season. thats crazy.
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Post by Disc808 on Apr 28, 2024 18:36:58 GMT -5
If my math is correct, KP in the playoffs
127 kills, 35 errors/blocked, 243 swings. 52% kill, 0.378 efficiency
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Post by avid 2.0 on Apr 28, 2024 18:38:41 GMT -5
Digs in the finals
Moki: 67, 71.8% control (the amount of digs that resulted in an attack)
Kelsey: 45, 70.9%
Wolosz: 29, 56.1%
Plummer: 26, 58.8%
Haak: 21, 64.5%
Parrocchiale: 39, 54%
Maja: 36, 65.2%
Antropova: 31, 60%
Herbots: 31, 58.1%
Zhu: 19, 56.7%
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Post by akinradeheaux on Apr 28, 2024 18:49:10 GMT -5
OHs with over 40% attack this season 1. Plummer 48.8% 2. Kelsey: 44.7% 3. Lee 43.1% 4. Zhu 42.5% 5. Lanier 42.0% 6. Skinner 41.5% 7. Ruddins 40.9% 8. Sylla 40.5% 9. Nika 40.3% 10. Degradi 40.0% Nice one - though I guess you've omitted Markova who comes in second at 46.0% (though with about half as many attempts as the rest). Adding to this by efficiency: - Plummer: 0.42.
- Zhu: 0.39.
- Kelsey: 0.38.
- Gennari: 0.38.
- Markova: 0.37.
- Ruddins: 0.36.
- Jatzko: 0.35.
- Lanier: 0.35.
- Skinner: 0.35.
- Herbots: 0.35.
Edit: Plak is listed as an OH on LVF, so going to bump her.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Apr 28, 2024 18:51:07 GMT -5
OHs with over 40% attack this season 1. Plummer 48.8% 2. Kelsey: 44.7% 3. Lee 43.1% 4. Zhu 42.5% 5. Lanier 42.0% 6. Skinner 41.5% 7. Ruddins 40.9% 8. Sylla 40.5% 9. Nika 40.3% 10. Degradi 40.0% Nice one - though I guess you've omitted Markova who comes in second at 46.0% (though with about half as many attempts as the rest). Adding to this by efficiency: - Plummer: 0.42.
- Zhu: 0.39.
- Kelsey: 0.38.
- Gennari: 0.38.
- Markova: 0.37.
- Ruddins: 0.36.
- Jatzko: 0.35.
- Lanier: 0.35.
- Skinner: 0.35.
- Herbots: 0.35.
Edit: Plak is listed as an OH on LVF, so going to bump her.
ngl for some reason markova was marked in my mind as an opposite lol i blame the playoffs. Also LVF efficiency doesnt count being blocked (so if you want American efficiency, you gotta do some more math lol) |
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Post by akinradeheaux on Apr 28, 2024 19:04:15 GMT -5
Nice one - though I guess you've omitted Markova who comes in second at 46.0% (though with about half as many attempts as the rest). Adding to this by efficiency: - Plummer: 0.42.
- Zhu: 0.39.
- Kelsey: 0.38.
- Gennari: 0.38.
- Markova: 0.37.
- Ruddins: 0.36.
- Jatzko: 0.35.
- Lanier: 0.35.
- Skinner: 0.35.
- Herbots: 0.35.
Edit: Plak is listed as an OH on LVF, so going to bump her.
ngl for some reason markova was marked in my mind as an opposite lol i blame the playoffs. Also LVF efficiency doesnt count being blocked (so if you want American efficiency, you gotta do some more math lol) Ooh, nice catch. I'll do some spreadsheet math here. Updated with American efficiency: - Zhu: 0.354.
- Plummer: 0.338.
- Ruddins: 0.322.
- Gennari: 0.313.
- Kelsey: 0.312.
- Markova: 0.299.
- Herbots: 0.291.
- Lanier: 0.289.
- Alsmeier: 0.287.
- Sylla: 0.283.
Shook that Zhu came out on top!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2024 19:12:33 GMT -5
Zhu sucks don’t care what the stats say lmao
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Post by akinradeheaux on Apr 28, 2024 19:15:56 GMT -5
ngl for some reason markova was marked in my mind as an opposite lol i blame the playoffs. Also LVF efficiency doesnt count being blocked (so if you want American efficiency, you gotta do some more math lol) Ooh, nice catch. I'll do some spreadsheet math here. Updated with American efficiency: - Zhu: 0.354.
- Plummer: 0.338.
- Ruddins: 0.322.
- Gennari: 0.313.
- Kelsey: 0.312.
- Markova: 0.299.
- Herbots: 0.291.
- Lanier: 0.289.
- Alsmeier: 0.287.
- Sylla: 0.283.
Shook that Zhu came out on top!
I was also curious about the error rates for these top 10 most efficient hitters. For the above 10 hitters (ranked still by American efficiency), here is % forced/unforced errors (over attempts): - Zhu: 0.071.
- Plummer: 0.151.
- Ruddins: 0.087.
- Gennari: 0.098.
- Kelsey: 0.135.
- Markova: 0.161.
- Herbots: 0.098.
- Lanier: 0.130.
- Alsmeier: 0.110.
- Sylla: 0.122.
Zhu is clearly the "smartest" hitter of the outsides. In fact, I did this analysis across all outsides, and Zhu has the lowest error rate, followed by Ruddins.
I think a pretty strong case can be made that across the season, she's the best offensive outside.
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