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Post by gouci on Aug 28, 2023 19:18:17 GMT -5
UCI started with a Pablo of 80, but have lost all three matches to #104, 221 and 141. Could be a long season. new coach time! jake with short term memory! UCI had a 20-10 win season just last year including sweeping Cal Poly 2-0!
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Post by gouci on Aug 28, 2023 19:27:08 GMT -5
UCI started with a Pablo of 80, but have lost all three matches to #104, 221 and 141. Could be a long season. Another blow to UCI was losing their starting setter and backup setter both with eligibility. UCI is now playing with a freshman setter and integrating 7 new players onto the team. It will be lots of inconsistency and growing pains for them during non-conference. But hopefully UCI will turn things around in time to make the 1st ever Big West Tournament! |
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Post by noblesol on Aug 28, 2023 19:35:25 GMT -5
It's way early, but the BW Tournament field looks like Hawai'i, Beach, UC Santa Barbara, Cal Poly, UC Davis, and pick one: UC San Diego/UC Irvine/Bakersfield.
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 28, 2023 19:42:49 GMT -5
jake with short term memory! UCI had a 20-10 win season just last year including sweeping Cal Poly 2-0!
UCI coach will be staying for years to come. This is selective cherry picking. It's been feast or famine for UCI with no post-season NCAA cherries on top: 2022 20-10 2021 17-13 2020 Season Cancelled 2019 5-23 2018 16-13 2017 24-8 2016 13-18 Total 95-85 |
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Post by vballfreak808 on Aug 28, 2023 19:49:44 GMT -5
It's way early, but the BW Tournament field looks like Hawai'i, Beach, UC Santa Barbara, Cal Poly, UC Davis, and pick one: UC San Diego/UC Irvine/Bakersfield. UC San Diego is not eligible for the tournament |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 28, 2023 19:52:37 GMT -5
jake with short term memory! UCI had a 20-10 win season just last year including sweeping Cal Poly 2-0!
UCI coach will be staying for years to come. This is selective cherry picking. It's been feast or famine for UCI with no post-season NCAA cherries on top: 2022 20-10 2021 17-13 2020 Season Cancelled 2019 5-23 2018 16-13 2017 24-8 2016 13-18 Total 95-85 Is this below expectations for UC Irvine? Is it viable for them to expect to do better than 5th or so (maybe 6th once UCSD gets established) in the Big West on more than a one-off basis? |
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 28, 2023 20:12:33 GMT -5
This is selective cherry picking. It's been feast or famine for UCI with no post-season NCAA cherries on top: 2022 20-10 2021 17-13 2020 Season Cancelled 2019 5-23 2018 16-13 2017 24-8 2016 13-18 Total 95-85 Is this below expectations for UC Irvine? Is it viable for them to expect to do better than 5th or so (maybe 6th once UCSD gets established) in the Big West on more than a one-off basis? Based on academic reputation (and correlated recruitment) why shouldn’t UCI (or Cal Poly) do as well or better than anyone else? I think coaching could make a significant difference for both of these given the history. I think the argument can be made that the Big West isn’t in a position to dedicate resources to commit to that level of achievement, but finishing better than 5th or 6th is a low bar nonetheless imo. |
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Post by noblesol on Aug 28, 2023 20:19:12 GMT -5
It's way early, but the BW Tournament field looks like Hawai'i, Beach, UC Santa Barbara, Cal Poly, UC Davis, and pick one: UC San Diego/UC Irvine/Bakersfield. UC San Diego is not eligible for the tournament Apologies, you are correct. UCSD Women's volleyball will not be eligible until next season. I recalled that last year the BW asked the NCAA to waive the wait for UCSD and make them eligible early. Apparently it was shot down w/o a press release. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 28, 2023 20:41:16 GMT -5
Is this below expectations for UC Irvine? Is it viable for them to expect to do better than 5th or so (maybe 6th once UCSD gets established) in the Big West on more than a one-off basis? Based on academic reputation (and correlated recruitment) why shouldn’t UCI (or Cal Poly) do as well or better than anyone else? I think coaching could make a significant difference for both of these given the history. I think the argument can be made that the Big West isn’t in a position to dedicate resources to commit to that level of achievement, but finishing better than 5th or 6th is a low bar nonetheless imo. Do you think based on academics alone that UCI should surpass Hawaii and Long Beach, who have the fanbase, history, and investment? And then UCSB and Cal Poly have great, if not better, academics, plus more desirable campuses and better volleyball tradition to boot. Edit: Decided to look up salary. They paid her $116K to be a D-I head coach in Orange County in 2022. Not sure whether there's a housing benefit on top of that, but even so I'd say the ROI is pretty stellar. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 28, 2023 20:51:32 GMT -5
The volleyball programs at the two best academic institutions, Cal Poly and Irvine, are both under-performing. A change might be good. coach seems to approach the transfer portal with too much caution. She has recruited five true freshmen this year. Who else has done the same? Only one player out of the TP. I doubt she's approaching the transfer portal with caution there could be a lot of reasons she didn't get xfers since she got Maia. Might be the grad programs at Poly, maybe less options, Poly is academically extremely strong with undergrad, but not a notable school for graduate I still think people are a bit overly critical of Walters, thinking there's a need for some immediate change, she's been the 2nd best coach, conference-wise behind Hawaii in her tenure she's won a conference title, and been continually in teh top 3 in conference her entire tenure. granted the trend is a bit down, and this year could be 5th or so |
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Post by SmokeDogg on Aug 28, 2023 21:45:31 GMT -5
UCI started with a Pablo of 80, but have lost all three matches to #104, 221 and 141. Could be a long season. Another blow to UCI was losing their starting setter and backup setter both with eligibility. UCI is now playing with a freshman setter and integrating 7 new players onto the team. It will be lots of inconsistency and growing pains for them during non-conference. But hopefully UCI will turn things around in time to make the 1st ever Big West Tournament! Fullerton has 10 new players, 8 very good freshmen. CSUF has freshmen starting at: setter, middle, outside, and right side. Yes, we are not very good, but maybe by the end of the volleyball season we will be able to challenge some big west teams. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 28, 2023 22:40:17 GMT -5
if one had to pick a choice of Vargas or Hahn, I can't imagine the choice would be all that difficult.
Fullerton is going to be a tough place to elevate the program
UCI should have a lot of advantages one would think to build a program in SoCal. 3 best players leaving at the same time, that's rough.
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 28, 2023 22:49:48 GMT -5
Based on academic reputation (and correlated recruitment) why shouldn’t UCI (or Cal Poly) do as well or better than anyone else? I think coaching could make a significant difference for both of these given the history. I think the argument can be made that the Big West isn’t in a position to dedicate resources to commit to that level of achievement, but finishing better than 5th or 6th is a low bar nonetheless imo. Do you think based on academics alone that UCI should surpass Hawaii and Long Beach, who have the fanbase, history, and investment? And then UCSB and Cal Poly have great, if not better, academics, plus more desirable campuses and better volleyball tradition to boot. Edit: Decided to look up salary. They paid her $116K to be a D-I head coach in Orange County in 2022. Not sure whether there's a housing benefit on top of that, but even so I'd say the ROI is pretty stellar. I think that UCI and Cal Poly have much more unrealized potential. Hawai'i has fared the best and longest in terms of program quality, fanbase and resources (at least volleyball-wise). Long Beach paid the previous coach more than UCI pays their's and the ROI on that investment was extremely poor notwithstanding the history. Santa Barbara is resource poor and their athletic department is pretty bad and horrible at fund-raising. Cal Poly alums have some of the highest average earnings after graduation among CA schools, but they're more isolated and still have football as a budgetary drain. Irvine is a short drive from Newport and in the middle of one of the wealthiest, vibrant parts of Southern California, and they don't have much tradition on the women's side, but they've had success in the men's game, so at least they have some type of blueprint to work from. In a few years, UCSD may be in a position to reach that same level of potential, given their academic and geographic positioning. |
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Aug 29, 2023 15:36:56 GMT -5
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