bluepenquin
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 4, 2023 11:58:07 GMT -5
This seems pretty big. Oregon and Washington about to be approved to join the Big Ten. Arizona approved yesterday to join the Big 12. Michael Crow (president of Arizona State) keeps digging his heels in on staying in the PAC, but there is no way he can continue this w/o Oregon and Washington sticking around. And Arizona is trying to push Arizona State to the B12 regardless. I guess Utah is tied to Arizona State.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 4, 2023 12:11:45 GMT -5
I don't believe that just adding USC and UCLA is viable, due to the travel burden, and that the B1G can't just stand pat. That gives UDub, Oregon, Stanford, and Cal leverage, if they can stick together. They’re not sticking together. Oregon and Washington are leaving Stanford and Cal to their own devices. At this point, it isn't clear one way or the other. I don't believe adding just USC and UCLA is viable. Sticking together could keep the Pac alive. There is room for negotiation.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 4, 2023 12:14:54 GMT -5
They’re not sticking together. Oregon and Washington are leaving Stanford and Cal to their own devices. At this point, it isn't clear one way or the other. I don't believe adding just USC and UCLA is viable. Sticking together could keep the Pac alive. There is room for negotiation. No. And once again, we're not entirely sure Stanford and Cal even would want this.
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 4, 2023 12:18:10 GMT -5
Looks like an emergency Big 10 presidents meeting has been scheduled for today. But huskerjen just told us that the B1G is under no pressure to expand, so why would they be having an emergency meeting? Opportunism. Just because they don't need to expand, doesn't mean that they're not planning for the future. If the Pac-12 is dissolving, the Big Ten is obviously perusing the bargain bin.
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Post by bigfan on Aug 4, 2023 12:18:54 GMT -5
USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington do not care about their student athletes.
Money and greed are driving this bus.
Multiple cross country trips for the volleyball and basketball teams each season is going to kill the talent level on these teams within 3 years, the travel requirements are horrendous.
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 4, 2023 12:21:43 GMT -5
USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington do not care about their student athletes. Money and greed are driving this bus. Multiple cross country trips for the volleyball and basketball teams each season is going to kill the talent level on these teams within 3 years, the travel requirements are horrendous. Newsflash: Most athletes either like the travel or are indifferent. As a former student-athlete, my teammates and I loved the bonding. Plus, it was protected time for homework when needed. 18-22 years olds in peak physical condition respond differently than the average middle-aged sedentary person that abhors travel.
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Post by lionsfan on Aug 4, 2023 12:23:31 GMT -5
They will get creative with scheduling to minimize trips. Might see pods at one site for multiple conference games (meaning each year, some teams will give up some home games)
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Post by bigfan on Aug 4, 2023 12:33:14 GMT -5
USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington do not care about their student athletes. Money and greed are driving this bus. Multiple cross country trips for the volleyball and basketball teams each season is going to kill the talent level on these teams within 3 years, the travel requirements are horrendous. Newsflash: Most athletes either like the travel or are indifferent. As a former student-athlete, my teammates and I loved the bonding. Plus, it was protected time for homework when needed. 18-22 years olds in peak physical condition respond differently than the average middle-aged sedentary person that abhors travel. Your arrogance is amazing.
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Post by tomclen on Aug 4, 2023 12:35:49 GMT -5
You can be both very, very well-educated and not very smart. (And greedy.)
Looking at you, college presidents.
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Post by dc155 on Aug 4, 2023 12:39:26 GMT -5
Pretty much sums up today --
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 4, 2023 12:41:53 GMT -5
What's really sad is this saga has brought UO and UW closer together. They will no longer be my most hated conference rival.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 4, 2023 12:46:43 GMT -5
What's really sad is this saga has brought UO and UW closer together. They will no longer be my most hated conference rival. As long as we can collectively take shots at USC, I'm good with it. Lets never let those damn Trojans win at another god damn thing, ever again.
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Post by JJVb on Aug 4, 2023 12:58:29 GMT -5
I'm exhausted following this story. I just need it to end in whatever deal is made. It is craziness. 🤯😮💨
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Post by tomclen on Aug 4, 2023 13:29:39 GMT -5
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Post by manyshaped on Aug 4, 2023 13:32:30 GMT -5
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