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Post by tomclen on Apr 18, 2023 14:52:04 GMT -5
Has 2023 PAC12 Volleyball set some kind of record for upheaval?
Is there another sport in any conference that has gone through the churn that the PAC is going through?
I'm all for accepting change, but the PAC is losing two top schools and PAC VB has FIVE (5) new coaches. All in one calendar year.
(Not to mention, the entire conference may not exist in the near future - but leave that aside for the moment.)
So I have 5 questions:
1. Will there be upheaval in the standings, or will it be business as usual with Stanford at or near the top?
2. Will there be any "events" to salute UCLA and USC when they visit schools for the last time as members of the conference?
3. Will USC or UCLA stick it to the PAC by winning a conference title in their final year?
4. Which of the five new coaches will have the best first-year showing?
5. Is there any hope that PAC12 Network VB coverage might improve?
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Post by uofaGRAD on Apr 18, 2023 14:59:22 GMT -5
1. Yes Stanford with hopefully Oregon and WSU heavy in the mix 2. Doubt it. Can’t imagine the PAC or teams in it are happy with them 3. No 4. I think OSU could finish highest above expectations, but I’m guessing Washington has the best year out of the new coaches 5. Lol no
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 18, 2023 15:10:38 GMT -5
1. Anyone other Stanford winning the Pac 12 will be shocking. 2. There won't be any formal (organized by the schools) events. There will be plenty of fan-led salutes of the "one finger" type. 3. See #1. 4. Agree with Washington. 5. If the same people are still running the network, No.
Also the Pac 12 is not setting any sort of upheavel record.
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 18, 2023 15:22:46 GMT -5
2. Will there be any "events" to salute UCLA and USC when they visit schools for the last time as members of the conference? [/quote]
Man wouldn't that be something! That like a wife throwing her husband a party and singing "for he's a jolly good fellow" while he's kicking her out of the house to make room for his secretary. It's not impossible, but I'd be pretty shocked!
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 18, 2023 15:39:52 GMT -5
Has 2023 PAC12 Volleyball set some kind of record for upheaval? Is there another sport in any conference that has gone through the churn that the PAC is going through? I'm all for accepting change, but the PAC is losing two top schools and PAC VB has FIVE (5) new coaches. All in one calendar year. (Not to mention, the entire conference may not exist in the near future - but leave that aside for the moment.) So I have 5 questions: 1. Will there be upheaval in the standings, or will it be business as usual with Stanford at or near the top? 2. Will there be any "events" to salute UCLA and USC when they visit schools for the last time as members of the conference? 3. Will USC or UCLA stick it to the PAC by winning a conference title in their final year? 4. Which of the five new coaches will have the best first-year showing? 5. Is there any hope that PAC12 Network VB coverage might improve? This is classic tomclen humor/satire--the only thing missing is a Denny's.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 18, 2023 16:07:28 GMT -5
Has 2023 PAC12 Volleyball set some kind of record for upheaval? Is there another sport in any conference that has gone through the churn that the PAC is going through? I'm all for accepting change, but the PAC is losing two top schools and PAC VB has FIVE (5) new coaches. All in one calendar year. (Not to mention, the entire conference may not exist in the near future - but leave that aside for the moment.) So I have 5 questions: 1. Will there be upheaval in the standings, or will it be business as usual with Stanford at or near the top? 2. Will there be any "events" to salute UCLA and USC when they visit schools for the last time as members of the conference? 3. Will USC or UCLA stick it to the PAC by winning a conference title in their final year? 4. Which of the five new coaches will have the best first-year showing? 5. Is there any hope that PAC12 Network VB coverage might improve? This is classic tomclen humor/satire--the only thing missing is a Denny's. This is the reception and salute I expect.
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Apr 18, 2023 16:20:28 GMT -5
WSU wins pac 12
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 18, 2023 16:24:01 GMT -5
In What year? Certainly not in 2023. In 2023 they are 5th.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Apr 18, 2023 16:30:33 GMT -5
In What year? Certainly not in 2023. In 2023 they are 5th. lol, what?? you think they bring everyone back and fall two places in the standings?
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Post by topspin on Apr 18, 2023 16:44:46 GMT -5
In What year? Certainly not in 2023. In 2023 they are 5th. I’d pick them 2nd barring any injuries. Everything has lined up well for them and Greeney is one of the best in the country.
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 18, 2023 17:15:48 GMT -5
In What year? Certainly not in 2023. In 2023 they are 5th. WSU only gets 5th if they suffer injuries again or both LA schools finally figure out a way to not be mediocre and Washington doesn't have a drop-off from all the graduating seniors. I can't predict injuries, but the latter doesn't seem very likely. I'd give WSU a better chance of finishing 2nd or heck even 1st, than 5th.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 18, 2023 17:26:48 GMT -5
In What year? Certainly not in 2023. In 2023 they are 5th. WSU only gets 5th if they suffer injuries again or both LA schools finally figure out a way to not be mediocre and Washington doesn't have a drop-off from all the graduating seniors. I can't predict injuries, but the latter doesn't seem very likely. I'd give WSU a better chance of finishing 2nd or heck even 1st, than 5th. If you think that little of UW next year, then I will agree with you that WSU is as close to second as they are to 5th. In that case slot them in at #4. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I will take your word for it that UW will be fighting for 5th.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 18, 2023 17:45:15 GMT -5
In What year? Certainly not in 2023. In 2023 they are 5th. lol, what?? you think they bring everyone back and fall two places in the standings? Sure, why not? They could have very easily been a couple of spots lower last year and its not like everybody else is standing still. They certainly aren't going to beat Stanford. I don't think they beat Oregon. I don't they beat USC. I thought UW had a shot against them, but I'll take ay2013 at their word that they don't. Heck, even UofA showed a little life last year with their youth almost knocking off WSU, and should add some impact transfers. Besides, I'm bored with the very limited Spring schedule and wouldn't mind some more interest in the last season of the Pac12 as we know it.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Apr 18, 2023 18:02:22 GMT -5
lol, what?? you think they bring everyone back and fall two places in the standings? Sure, why not? They could have very easily been a couple of spots lower last year and it’s not like everybody else is standing still. They certainly aren't going to beat Stanford. I don't think they beat Oregon. I don't they beat USC. I thought UW had a shot against them, but I'll take ay2013 at their word that they don't. Heck, even UofA showed a little life last year with their youth almost knocking off WSU, and should add some impact transfers. Besides, I'm bored with the very limited Spring schedule and wouldn't mind some more interest in the last season of the Pac12 as we know it. I think they can beat Oregon without Brooke. Although those are for sure my #2 and #3, in whatever order. I think they can easily beat USC personally. And I think Arizona taking even two sets against WSU would be considered a win lol. I love Rita and think she’ll eventually take the team to heights that were only seen long ago, but not this season.
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Post by vbfamily on Apr 18, 2023 18:33:39 GMT -5
1) No upheaval, but my bold prediction, Stanford and Oregon in the final four! They were both a swing or two away this year. Stanford loses no one, so obviously they will be great. Oregon loses Brooke/Gloria/Kiari, but bring in two All-Region (One HM) 5th year starting seniors from Elite 8/16 + Morgan starting who played lights out in the tournament! In addition they have some crazy young depth if needed. I’m not giving the crown to Stanford just yet. WSU will be very good, top three there.
Oregon Potential starting 7: TWO 6th year seniors, FOUR 5th year seniors and a returning NFOY. Now that’s crazy! Go Ducks!!
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