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Post by mikegarrison on May 23, 2023 18:55:51 GMT -5
They're going to do what's best for them, same as pretty much every other school. I suppose, but sometimes what is best for a person (or probably even a school) is to be loyal to your friends because you never know when you might need them to be loyal to you. I can understand USC feeling like the PAC had not been loyal to USC with some harsh punishments handed out, but maybe USC shouldn't have been breaking quite so many rules quite so frequently.
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Post by tomclen on May 24, 2023 5:18:09 GMT -5
The fallout is picking up pace.... (From the Yakima Herald-Republic) Read the full story HERE
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Post by tomclen on May 24, 2023 9:59:25 GMT -5
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Post by aardvark on May 24, 2023 12:44:32 GMT -5
OK. So, you renamed the thread. I still don't see what it has to do with Texas, Nebraska, or Hawaii...
[reads original post] The moment has passed.
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Post by Mark Richards on May 24, 2023 13:01:15 GMT -5
The fallout is picking up pace.... (From the Yakima Herald-Republic) Read the full story HEREAs strange as it may seem in the long run USC and UCLA leaving will benefit this conference 4-5 years from now. Once the brutal travel schedule for all sports except football really kicks in and recruiting starts to tank for all non football sports...............USC and UCLA will realize they made a huge mistake and will want back in to the Pac................it will be a huge payday for the Pac to let them return.
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Post by 900sqftdad on May 24, 2023 13:24:32 GMT -5
The fallout is picking up pace.... (From the Yakima Herald-Republic) Read the full story HEREAs strange as it may seem in the long run USC and UCLA leaving will benefit this conference 4-5 years from now. Once the brutal travel schedule for all sports except football really kicks in and recruiting starts to tank for all non football sports...............USC and UCLA will realize they made a huge mistake and will want back in to the Pac................it will be a huge payday for the Pac to let them return. 😂 Or maybe it won’t!
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Post by mikegarrison on May 24, 2023 14:08:54 GMT -5
The fallout is picking up pace.... (From the Yakima Herald-Republic) Read the full story HEREAs strange as it may seem in the long run USC and UCLA leaving will benefit this conference 4-5 years from now. Once the brutal travel schedule for all sports except football really kicks in and recruiting starts to tank for all non football sports...............USC and UCLA will realize they made a huge mistake and will want back in to the Pac................it will be a huge payday for the Pac to let them return. Not a chance. 1) As if all the "non-football sports" matter, especially to USC? 2) The PAC has always had a brutal travel schedule compared to conferences like the Big Ten (you try going to Tucson on a Wednesday and then Pullman on Saturday), and while this will make travel even harder for USC and UCLA than it already was, it won't be so much harder that it will stop them from admiring their new bank accounts.
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Post by redbeard2008 on May 24, 2023 14:56:02 GMT -5
Is "no news" good, or bad, news?
1. UW is losing three All-Americans, in Powell, Hoffman, and Grote, plus Crenshaw and Summers, so I think a down year is probably to be expected. I don't care how anybody else does, except for maybe Wazzu (I like Greeny).
2. Screw the Bruins and Trojans. They made their bed...
3. See 1. and 2.
4. I don't care. Second- and/or third-year showings are more important. (I fear that Cohen offered Gabriel the job as a courtesy, but then were shocked that she accepted.)
5. If the Pac-12 survives, they need to totally reform the Pac-12 Networks, which was hostage to the "Cable/Satellite TV" paradigm from the beginning, and a main reason the conference is on the ropes: A main channel (for football, men's basketball, and conference championships) offered to cable/streaming services and a "+" ($) streaming channel (for "Olympic" sports) is what they need to be looking at.
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Post by Mark Richards on May 24, 2023 15:11:00 GMT -5
As strange as it may seem in the long run USC and UCLA leaving will benefit this conference 4-5 years from now. Once the brutal travel schedule for all sports except football really kicks in and recruiting starts to tank for all non football sports...............USC and UCLA will realize they made a huge mistake and will want back in to the Pac................it will be a huge payday for the Pac to let them return. Not a chance. 1) As if all the "non-football sports" matter, especially to USC? 2) The PAC has always had a brutal travel schedule compared to conferences like the Big Ten (you try going to Tucson on a Wednesday and then Pullman on Saturday), and while this will make travel even harder for USC and UCLA than it already was, it won't be so much harder that it will stop them from admiring their new bank accounts. The athletes will be speaking when these 2 schools start losing recruits because of the obscene travel.
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Post by Mark Richards on May 24, 2023 15:12:45 GMT -5
offered to cable/streaming services and a "+" ($) streaming channel (for "Olympic" sports) is what they need to be looking at. This is what they will be getting ..........all games streamed on Apple+
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Post by gobruins on May 24, 2023 15:14:07 GMT -5
Also, I think it's more than a little ironic that a Nebraska fan is branding other schools as traitors for leaving for the greener pastures of the Big Ten when Nebraska did the same thing not long ago. It was sarcasm. (But they *are* traitors.) In the same way that our Founding Fathers were "traitors" to England.
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Post by mikegarrison on May 24, 2023 15:39:30 GMT -5
Not a chance. 1) As if all the "non-football sports" matter, especially to USC? 2) The PAC has always had a brutal travel schedule compared to conferences like the Big Ten (you try going to Tucson on a Wednesday and then Pullman on Saturday), and while this will make travel even harder for USC and UCLA than it already was, it won't be so much harder that it will stop them from admiring their new bank accounts. The athletes will be speaking when these 2 schools start losing recruits because of the obscene travel. I don't think the schools care.
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Post by Mark Richards on May 24, 2023 15:41:24 GMT -5
The athletes will be speaking when these 2 schools start losing recruits because of the obscene travel. I don't think the schools care. I know that. You know that. Athletes will soon know this.
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Post by n00b on May 24, 2023 17:26:37 GMT -5
Once the brutal travel schedule for all sports except football really kicks in Assuming Big Ten football plays nine conference games like most leagues, the football team will travel east 4 or 5 times per year. Plus one if they make the Big Ten Championship. I suppose once every four years it would only be 3 times (only four away games and one of them is at the other LA school). Volleyball (in the current schedule structure) would travel east 5 times (probably) to play 9 matches. I'm not sure that one additional trip makes the travel THAT much tougher than football.
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Post by n00b on May 24, 2023 17:32:48 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy. Juniors volleyball players are used to flying from LA to Orlando or Atlanta to Reno for tournaments. Chartering a 4-hour flight to road matches is not going move the needle in recruiting. And playing the best competition in front of the biggest crowds in the country will absolutely help.
Now if you're asking about softball? That's a tougher sell. UCLA will have to fly to the upper midwest in March and April to play mediocre competition.
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