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Post by luckydawg on Aug 23, 2023 10:29:00 GMT -5
It's 50% for six years, plus a $1 million increase each year, then a full share. UW and UO, although getting money similar to the ESPN offer, will come out way ahead down the road. Stanford isn't interested in being Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I mean what the new PAC-12 deal would’ve been worth. I was generously saying it would be half of what Big Ten schools get. And what Oregon and Washington will be getting six years from now. Do people really think that a “realistic” approach to get a $25 mil per year media deal would kept Oregon and Washington from leaving for the Big Ten? Even the $25m would only happen under the best possible of outcomes. Such as players having Apple+ versions of bake sales. Post game autograph sessions would now require a subscription.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 23, 2023 12:28:07 GMT -5
Not volleyball related: As the upcoming season draws ever closer and the Pac-12/10 etc. as we know it gets lost into the pacific sunset, I hope above all else one thing - USC football gets their asses handed to them. Objectively, I have questions about expectations this season anyway. Lincoln Riley hype notwithstanding, USC's schedule last year was pretty cush. They didn't play two of the top 4 Pac-12 teams (Washington and Oregon), lost to Utah twice (the title game wasn't even close, and lost to Tulane in the bowl game. Fingers crossed that Notre Dame gets em early, Utah pours salt in the wound the following week, Washington embarrasses them in from of their fans, and Oregon puts the final nail in their important bowl hopes. Subjectively, #overrated, lets expose them for the over-paid, over-exposed athletics program they are. Until further notice, everything involving USC athletics (except USC pre-season volleyball - because them losing affects the Pac-12 RPI) gets this response from me
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Aug 23, 2023 12:42:04 GMT -5
I hope above all else one thing - USC football gets their asses handed to them. Objectively, I have questions about expectations this season anyway. Lincoln Riley hype notwithstanding, USC's schedule last year was pretty cush. They didn't play two of the top 4 Pac-12 teams (Washington and Oregon), lost to Utah twice (the title game wasn't even close, and lost to Tulane in the bowl game. Fingers crossed that Notre Dame gets em early, Utah pours salt in the wound the following week, Washington embarrass them in from of their fans, and Oregon puts the final nail in their important bowl hopes. Subjectively, #overrated, lets expose them for the over-paid, over-exposed athletics program they are. Until further notice, everything involving USC athletics (except USC pre-season volleyball - because them losing affects the Pac-12 RPI) gets this response from me LMAO this could happen
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Post by trojansc on Aug 23, 2023 12:44:41 GMT -5
Objectively, I have questions about expectations this season anyway. Lincoln Riley hype notwithstanding, USC's schedule last year was pretty cush. They didn't play two of the top 4 Pac-12 teams (Washington and Oregon), lost to Utah twice (the title game wasn't even close. The game at Utah could have gone either way and the P12 Championship game was a 3-point game with 10 mins left in the 4th quarter before it got away from USC. That was with Caleb Williams playing injured, hobbling throughout the game after a 1st quarter injury. I think that's relevant, but it doesn't take away from the fact that USC was short on big-time wins last year
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 23, 2023 12:56:40 GMT -5
Objectively, I have questions about expectations this season anyway. Lincoln Riley hype notwithstanding, USC's schedule last year was pretty cush. They didn't play two of the top 4 Pac-12 teams (Washington and Oregon), lost to Utah twice (the title game wasn't even close. The game at Utah could have gone either way and the P12 Championship game was a 3-point game with 10 mins left in the 4th quarter before it got away from USC. That was with Caleb Williams playing injured, hobbling throughout the game after a 1st quarter injury. I think that's relevant, but it doesn't take away from the fact that USC was short on big-time wins last year You know I like you BUT it's still a boooo for me
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 23, 2023 13:00:29 GMT -5
Not volleyball related: As the upcoming season draws ever closer and the Pac-12/10 etc. as we know it gets lost into the pacific sunset, I hope above all else one thing - USC football gets their asses handed to them. Objectively, I have questions about expectations this season anyway. Lincoln Riley hype notwithstanding, USC's schedule last year was pretty cush. They didn't play two of the top 4 Pac-12 teams (Washington and Oregon), lost to Utah twice (the title game wasn't even close, and lost to Tulane in the bowl game. Fingers crossed that Notre Dame gets em early, Utah pours salt in the wound the following week, Washington embarrasses them in from of their fans, and Oregon puts the final nail in their important bowl hopes. Subjectively, #overrated, lets expose them for the over-paid, over-exposed athletics program they are. Until further notice, everything involving USC athletics (except USC pre-season volleyball - because them losing affects the Pac-12 RPI) gets this response from me Pretty rich coming from a Washington fan when: 1. Washington (and Oregon) leaving is what actually killed the Pac-12, not USC leaving 2. Washington doesn't have 1/10 of the football prestige that USC has I also think a lot of Pac-12 schools that are moving to new conferences are going to learn the hard way that other conferences were better at them in football, and they won't do as well when playing opponents that are stronger on average. And USC is best equipped to survive this transition.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 23, 2023 13:01:23 GMT -5
Objectively, I have questions about expectations this season anyway. Lincoln Riley hype notwithstanding, USC's schedule last year was pretty cush. They didn't play two of the top 4 Pac-12 teams (Washington and Oregon), lost to Utah twice (the title game wasn't even close. The game at Utah could have gone either way and the P12 Championship game was a 3-point game with 10 mins left in the 4th quarter before it got away from USC. That was with Caleb Williams playing injured, hobbling throughout the game after a 1st quarter injury. I think that's relevant, but it doesn't take away from the fact that USC was short on big-time wins last year Williams being hurt obviously didn't help, but I think the real issue was that USC had the worst tackling in the history of organized football.
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Post by horns1 on Aug 23, 2023 13:02:32 GMT -5
I am SO gonna be rooting for USC now!
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Post by slxpress on Aug 23, 2023 13:13:29 GMT -5
I am SO gonna be rooting for USC now! That camera angle is practically pornographic.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 23, 2023 13:17:17 GMT -5
The game at Utah could have gone either way and the P12 Championship game was a 3-point game with 10 mins left in the 4th quarter before it got away from USC. That was with Caleb Williams playing injured, hobbling throughout the game after a 1st quarter injury. I think that's relevant, but it doesn't take away from the fact that USC was short on big-time wins last year Williams being hurt obviously didn't help, but I think the real issue was that USC had the worst tackling in the history of organized football. Lincoln Riley is an outstanding head coach, IMO, but his next good defense will be his first. There’s something inherent about the Hal Mumme/Mike Leach style of offense, which is the school Riley comes from, that simply cannot produce good defenses. I don’t think it’s just the offense and play calling. I think there’s neglect of the defense in a systemic way which creates consistently sub par results.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 23, 2023 13:19:56 GMT -5
Do people really think that a “realistic” approach to get a $25 mil per year media deal would kept Oregon and Washington from leaving for the Big Ten? $25 mil total? Probably not. Pac-12 Networks would have been in addition. I was thinking a revamp for P12Net, with a main channel and a subscription streaming service, similar to BTN/BTN+, with conference and school tiers. Streaming is the future, but they were stuck in the past in a cable-centric paradigm, while cable-TV is collapsing. They needed to be proactive, but everyone was sitting on their hands like dodo's. UW and Oregon are likely taking less than what they might have had, in order to double their money later. Stanford needed to step up and take a leadership role, instead of retreating back onto the Farm in silence. You'd almost think that Stanford thought they'd be the one, like Rapunzel in her tower, to let her hair down to a B1G offer. And they (and Cal?) still might, if ND turns the B1G down flat. In the end, everyone was probably playing a double-game, at least those who thought they had somewhere to go, with their bags packed and stacked at the door, while grinning and shaking Georgy-Porgy's hand while he made his campus tour. Instead of a ringmaster, they'd hired a clown.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 23, 2023 13:28:55 GMT -5
Not volleyball related: As the upcoming season draws ever closer and the Pac-12/10 etc. as we know it gets lost into the pacific sunset, I hope above all else one thing - USC football gets their asses handed to them. Objectively, I have questions about expectations this season anyway. Lincoln Riley hype notwithstanding, USC's schedule last year was pretty cush. They didn't play two of the top 4 Pac-12 teams (Washington and Oregon), lost to Utah twice (the title game wasn't even close, and lost to Tulane in the bowl game. Fingers crossed that Notre Dame gets em early, Utah pours salt in the wound the following week, Washington embarrasses them in from of their fans, and Oregon puts the final nail in their important bowl hopes. Subjectively, #overrated, lets expose them for the over-paid, over-exposed athletics program they are. Until further notice, everything involving USC athletics (except USC pre-season volleyball - because them losing affects the Pac-12 RPI) gets this response from me Pretty rich coming from a Washington fan when: 1. Washington (and Oregon) leaving is what actually killed the Pac-12, not USC leaving 2. Washington doesn't have 1/10 of the football prestige that USC has I also think a lot of Pac-12 schools that are moving to new conferences are going to learn the hard way that other conferences were better at them in football, and they won't do as well when playing opponents that are stronger on average. And USC is best equipped to survive this transition. Just to be clear, I don't actually care about football, it's just what's driving all of this conference madness, which is why I have opinions on it. And since we don't want to live too much in the past (which is what USC likes to point to), in the last 7 matches (dating back to 2009), Washington is 4-3 against USC, despite UW having less money, fewer elite recruits, and, as you put it "1/10 of the football prestige" of USC. And yes, I'm aware during the mid 2000's when USC was actually relevant nationally, they dominated, but no need to drag out all those well publicized cheating scandals during that era. In volleyball, the only college sport I actually do care about, also despite USC's history and seemingly better recruiting year after year, in the last 20 years Washington is 24-13 over USC. As the sun sets on the Pac-12/10 etc., as it relates to recent times, when it comes to Washington athletics v. USC athletics:
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 23, 2023 13:31:53 GMT -5
I am SO gonna be rooting for USC now!
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 23, 2023 13:44:12 GMT -5
I am SO gonna be rooting for USC now! Maybe you should worry about your own football program, who, as I recall, lost to Washington in the bowl game just last year...
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Post by horns1 on Aug 23, 2023 13:45:20 GMT -5
I am SO gonna be rooting for USC now! Maybe you should worry about your own football program, who, as I recall, lost to Washington in the bowl game last year I'm not worried about anything. Simply laughing at you being petty and a hater. Instantly made me a USC fan.
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