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Post by zarsta on Aug 1, 2023 2:36:12 GMT -5
So the deal is, is the US loses then they are out, right? And if they win or draw they are in, but probably as second place unless they keep up with the Netherlands in terms of scoring? Do I have that correct? Correct. If they lose, both the Dutch and Portugal would have 2 wins. Draw would put US through but in 2nd (because the Dutch game is pretty much over already).
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 1, 2023 2:40:17 GMT -5
Is the U.S. just struggling in midfield talent or is this coaching?
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 1, 2023 2:47:38 GMT -5
Not sure I've ever seen a US team look straight up slow.
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 1, 2023 2:49:42 GMT -5
Is the U.S. just struggling in midfield talent or is this coaching? Yes? Injuries haven't helped. Macario and Mewis are both missing through injury and they're world class. If Sauerbrunn is healthy, Ertz is in midfield and they probably look better. I said to Mrs Merv a few minutes ago this is the type of game which causes a generational turnover. They look out of ideas right now.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 1, 2023 3:06:11 GMT -5
Is the U.S. just struggling in midfield talent or is this coaching? Yes? Injuries haven't helped. Macario and Mewis are both missing through injury and they're world class. If Sauerbrunn is healthy, Ertz is in midfield and they probably look better. I said to Mrs Merv a few minutes ago this is the type of game which causes a generational turnover. They look out of ideas right now. But isn't every team missing like 1 or 2 gamechangers due to injury right now? But yeah, this looks bad. Japan is gonna slice us apart.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 1, 2023 3:11:53 GMT -5
Isn't a kick to the face a direct red?
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 1, 2023 3:15:55 GMT -5
Yes? Injuries haven't helped. Macario and Mewis are both missing through injury and they're world class. If Sauerbrunn is healthy, Ertz is in midfield and they probably look better. I said to Mrs Merv a few minutes ago this is the type of game which causes a generational turnover. They look out of ideas right now. But isn't every team missing like 1 or 2 gamechangers due to injury right now? But yeah, this looks bad. Japan is gonna slice us apart. Oh for sure, no excuse. The fact they're hurting by not having Ertz in midfield is ridiculous. To not have a viable center back to pair with Girma so a player *who wasn't with the national team* six months ago can play a critical midfield role is an indictment of the whole program.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 1, 2023 3:20:04 GMT -5
Japan is gonna slice us apart. I can't count the number of times when I've seen sports teams play really poorly in one game/match/event and then play great in the next. (Or vice versa.) I mean, yeah, sometimes a team looks bad in one game and then they get crushed in the next one. But not always. Of course, USA has to not lose this game if they want there to be a next one.
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Post by Mocha on Aug 1, 2023 4:01:32 GMT -5
I stayed up for this crap???
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 1, 2023 4:05:46 GMT -5
wooooooooof
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Post by zarsta on Aug 1, 2023 6:17:23 GMT -5
Well that was underwhelming from the US. What an effort from Portugal though, and that shot that hit the post!
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Post by avid 2.0 on Aug 1, 2023 6:58:47 GMT -5
Yes? Injuries haven't helped. Macario and Mewis are both missing through injury and they're world class. If Sauerbrunn is healthy, Ertz is in midfield and they probably look better. I said to Mrs Merv a few minutes ago this is the type of game which causes a generational turnover. They look out of ideas right now. But isn't every team missing like 1 or 2 gamechangers due to injury right now? But yeah, this looks bad. Japan is gonna slice us apart. bold to assume they’ll get past Sweden at this rate. What a mess
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Post by n00b on Aug 1, 2023 10:37:34 GMT -5
Japan is gonna slice us apart. I can't count the number of times when I've seen sports teams play really poorly in one game/match/event and then play great in the next. (Or vice versa.) I mean, yeah, sometimes a team looks bad in one game and then they get crushed in the next one. But not always. Of course, USA has to not lose this game if they want there to be a next one. I don't know soccer well enough to analyze myself, but this has been the narrative after all three group play matches. It's possible that this team just isn't very good. I wonder if they'll even be favored against Sweden.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Aug 1, 2023 10:43:53 GMT -5
I can't count the number of times when I've seen sports teams play really poorly in one game/match/event and then play great in the next. (Or vice versa.) I mean, yeah, sometimes a team looks bad in one game and then they get crushed in the next one. But not always. Of course, USA has to not lose this game if they want there to be a next one. I don't know soccer well enough to analyze myself, but this has been the narrative after all three group play matches. It's possible that this team just isn't very good. I wonder if they'll even be favored against Sweden. They're just not as talented as they used to be (through injury, lack of talent, etc) Injuries arent helping that... They'd be better with Becky, Pugh, Macario, Mewis, etc. but it doesnt discount the current crop of midfielders/forwards just arent as talented as the 2015/2019 squads. And Vladko is worse than Jill Ellis... which doesnt seem possible.. but here we are.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 1, 2023 10:45:08 GMT -5
I have followed Canadian Women's Soccer off and on for the better part of 20 years (since the summer of 2002 when the U-19 team brought so much attention to the sport here), and it is absolutely mind blowing to me that they can medal at 3 consecutive Olympics, but have not advanced past the quarterfinals at the World Cup since 2003 (which ironically enough, they failed to qualify for the Athens Games the following summer.) I can't began to understand the ranking system that FIFA uses, but this team being ranked 7th in the world is wild to me. I almost feel these Olympic medals are a bit fluke-like, or they are simply attempting to peak for the Olympics, even though my millennial mind would argue the World Cup is the grand prize of the sport. Are the times a-changin'? I wouldn't say three medals is a fluke. The Olympics is a real tournament (almost a second World Cup) on the women's side, unlike the men. It probably is easier to medal in the Olympics, though, because there aren't as many European teams, though that's only been a real issue fairly recently. For a long time, most of the traditional men's powers (basically everyone except Germany) neglected their women's programs. Not the case anymore.
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