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Post by bbg95 on Aug 7, 2023 11:24:56 GMT -5
So I don't watch that much soccer. I initially thought a three-match ban would be pretty excessive. What James did was really stupid, but I thought one match should be enough (has absolutely nothing to do with James or England--I would have the exact same opinion regardless of who the player was or what country they play for). But it seems that a three-match ban could definitely be in play. A Nigerian player got a red card in their match against Canada and had to miss three matches. On the one hand, that one was likely unintentional. On the other hand, I think it was a lot more dangerous. We'll see.
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 7, 2023 11:49:36 GMT -5
So I don't watch that much soccer. I initially thought a three-match ban would be pretty excessive. What James did was really stupid, but I thought one match should be enough (has absolutely nothing to do with James or England--I would have the exact same opinion regardless of who the player was or what country they play for). But it seems that a three-match ban could definitely be in play. A Nigerian player got a red card in their match against Canada and had to miss three matches. On the one hand, that one was likely unintentional. On the other hand, I think it was a lot more dangerous. We'll see. Violent conduct tends to be a looked poorly upon by the disciplinary committee. When I woke up I saw on twitter she'd been red carded then Michael Cox (of Zonal Marking fame) tweeted this and I knew she must've really f#cked up:
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 7, 2023 14:02:26 GMT -5
So I don't watch that much soccer. I initially thought a three-match ban would be pretty excessive. What James did was really stupid, but I thought one match should be enough (has absolutely nothing to do with James or England--I would have the exact same opinion regardless of who the player was or what country they play for). But it seems that a three-match ban could definitely be in play. A Nigerian player got a red card in their match against Canada and had to miss three matches. On the one hand, that one was likely unintentional. On the other hand, I think it was a lot more dangerous. We'll see. Violent conduct tends to be a looked poorly upon by the disciplinary committee. When I woke up I saw on twitter she'd been red carded then Michael Cox (of Zonal Marking fame) tweeted this and I knew she must've really f#cked up: Yeah, I just don't know enough about soccer suspensions to have a great idea. If James gets three matches, she has no one to blame but herself.
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Post by Mocha on Aug 7, 2023 17:14:25 GMT -5
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Post by donut on Aug 7, 2023 18:22:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure I find that so heartwarming... Nigerian players didn't really look like they were interested in England's pity, for lack of a better word.
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Post by donut on Aug 7, 2023 18:28:53 GMT -5
Pretty spot on from Goff about the USA's future. I missed Ertz saying yesterday that she's done. Not surprising but a little disappointing because she clearly has a lot left in the tank. On to Paris! So, I watched the post match interview on Fox, and she didn't definitely say she was done, but I guess she confirmed it later to ESPN?
Ertz is maybe my favorite US player ever, so I'm disappointed and biased, but damn, what a blow to the USWNT. We likely don't even make the Round of 16 without Ertz's return. And she would be such an asset in Paris.
She's always been a class act, but a player who pushes herself the way she did just to come back for 1 tournament, is pretty remarkable.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 7, 2023 18:55:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure I find that so heartwarming... Nigerian players didn't really look like they were interested in England's pity, for lack of a better word. I mean, they were obviously distraught that they lost. Doesn't really change that it was good sportsmanship by the English players.
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Post by donut on Aug 7, 2023 18:58:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure I find that so heartwarming... Nigerian players didn't really look like they were interested in England's pity, for lack of a better word. I mean, they were obviously distraught that they lost. Doesn't really change that it was good sportsmanship by the English players. I don't think forcing a player to get up is good sportsmanship. Wish them good luck, congratulate them on their play, let them process, and go celebrate. You really think the Nigerian goalie wanted 3 English players in her face forcing her to stand?
The second Nigerian player who eventually joined up with the goalie also clearly didn't care for England's "it's ok, you did well" etc.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 7, 2023 19:36:34 GMT -5
Pretty spot on from Goff about the USA's future. I missed Ertz saying yesterday that she's done. Not surprising but a little disappointing because she clearly has a lot left in the tank. On to Paris! Pretty good article. I thought this got to the crux of the issue: I don't know if another striker would have made the difference, but it would have been nice to have some more scoring options, given the team's woeful offense (one goal in 300 non-Vietnam minutes). I don't think I realized just how much Alex Morgan has slipped since 2019.
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Post by donut on Aug 7, 2023 20:04:23 GMT -5
I think that's incorrect though. Smith is a natural striker. Same with Rodman.
If anything we were missing natural wingers. There was just no chemistry between those front 3 for most of the tournament, and I do think that blame lands on Vlatko for starting three natural number 9s. He essentially chose three forwards who are all independently excellent goal scorers, but struggled to create opportunities for each other.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Aug 7, 2023 22:02:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure I find that so heartwarming... Nigerian players didn't really look like they were interested in England's pity, for lack of a better word. I mean, they were obviously distraught that they lost. Doesn't really change that it was good sportsmanship by the English players. It's always hard to accept well wishes from the team that just beat you, but I do commend the English players their good sportsmanship. That's why I appreciate the handshake line at the end of an NHL playoff series. Two teams compete hard against each other but at the end of it all can come together and give well wishes.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Aug 7, 2023 22:05:00 GMT -5
Perhaps the English players were being a little extra solicitous after one of their own stomped a Nigerian player for a straight red?
With the US out, I'm currently pulling for the Matilda's.
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Post by donut on Aug 7, 2023 22:10:12 GMT -5
Perhaps the English players were being a little extra solicitous after one of their own stomped a Nigerian player for a straight red? With the US out, I'm currently pulling for the Matilda's. Yeah, again, wouldn't call that sportsmanship.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 7, 2023 22:16:21 GMT -5
Or perhaps some are overly cynical, and they really were just being good sports. Anyway, this topic is now boring me, so I'll move on.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 7, 2023 22:20:40 GMT -5
I'm currently pulling for the Matilda's. I'm honestly fine with anyone. Either the most fun team in the tournament (Japan) wins its second World Cup, or we get a first-time champion. Edit: also, didn't you put some money on Australia? I thought that you had, so that gives extra rooting incentive.
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