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Post by dinonugs on Aug 29, 2024 14:34:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates. What makes you think Quinn starts at setter over Muir and Penn? I agree OH is the biggest unknown and likely weakness. I'm not sure the passing holds up if Williams/Thrower start, so I expect to see at least 1 of Ingram/Richardson/Hamlin for that reason even if their offensive production is less. Hope Keefe stays healthy because she'll need to carry a big load this season. With Quinn, I think she looks better in the front-row blocking-wise than Penn and has better set placement that Muir. Penn's blocking ability in the front row concerns me probs the most out of the Duke setters. Muir's set placement was an issue last season and I don't know if it's good enough to justify her starting. With the OHs, I think that's understandable. However, I've learned to be concerned about the passing from all of our OHs because our track record isn't good. Some players look like they will be decent passers and then they struggle more than you expect in games and vice versa. The passing from the OHs at Duke has been inconsistent (sometimes really bad) and a huge problem for a while now. With regards to Hamlin/Ingram, I question if they can pass well enough in game to offset their offensive production being less (and how much less their offensive production is). I don't know if Duke gives Richardson another opportunity to start with how she was performed last year unless there was significant improvements in the offseason. With regards to Richardson, one of the Duke biggest struggles last season was Richardson struggling to hit as well as pass. Honestly, sitting on it, I only feel sure about Kadel and Keefe starting. Williams, I feel decent about her starting just not as strong as the other two. The other positions *shrugs*. Is there no world where Duke runs a 6-2? They brought in Penn who primarily helped run a 6-2 at BC and with Muir and Quinn both being solid as well as the plethora of pins I feel like it's a possibility. |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 29, 2024 14:51:00 GMT -5
With Quinn, I think she looks better in the front-row blocking-wise than Penn and has better set placement that Muir. Penn's blocking ability in the front row concerns me probs the most out of the Duke setters. Muir's set placement was an issue last season and I don't know if it's good enough to justify her starting. With the OHs, I think that's understandable. However, I've learned to be concerned about the passing from all of our OHs because our track record isn't good. Some players look like they will be decent passers and then they struggle more than you expect in games and vice versa. The passing from the OHs at Duke has been inconsistent (sometimes really bad) and a huge problem for a while now. With regards to Hamlin/Ingram, I question if they can pass well enough in game to offset their offensive production being less (and how much less their offensive production is). I don't know if Duke gives Richardson another opportunity to start with how she was performed last year unless there was significant improvements in the offseason. With regards to Richardson, one of the Duke biggest struggles last season was Richardson struggling to hit as well as pass. Honestly, sitting on it, I only feel sure about Kadel and Keefe starting. Williams, I feel decent about her starting just not as strong as the other two. The other positions *shrugs*. Is there no world where Duke runs a 6-2? They brought in Penn who primarily helped run a 6-2 at BC and with Muir and Quinn both being solid as well as the plethora of pins I feel like it's a possibility. I think we will see Duke run a 6-2 at times just maybe not for the full season. Nagel likes to switch things up and she did it last season at times. However, I question if this team can survive without Kerry on the floor. I do wonder if Grace Penn will see the floor as a serving sub if she isn't starting at setter... |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 29, 2024 22:51:08 GMT -5
With Quinn, I think she looks better in the front-row blocking-wise than Penn and has better set placement that Muir. Penn's blocking ability in the front row concerns me probs the most out of the Duke setters. Muir's set placement was an issue last season and I don't know if it's good enough to justify her starting. With the OHs, I think that's understandable. However, I've learned to be concerned about the passing from all of our OHs because our track record isn't good. Some players look like they will be decent passers and then they struggle more than you expect in games and vice versa. The passing from the OHs at Duke has been inconsistent (sometimes really bad) and a huge problem for a while now. With regards to Hamlin/Ingram, I question if they can pass well enough in game to offset their offensive production being less (and how much less their offensive production is). I don't know if Duke gives Richardson another opportunity to start with how she was performed last year unless there was significant improvements in the offseason. With regards to Richardson, one of the Duke biggest struggles last season was Richardson struggling to hit as well as pass. Honestly, sitting on it, I only feel sure about Kadel and Keefe starting. Williams, I feel decent about her starting just not as strong as the other two. The other positions *shrugs*. Thanks for your assessment. I agree lots of question marks and potential lineup combinations. I just hope the starters can establish themselves fairly quickly and it's not a continuous revolving door throughout the season especially at OH and S. I have no clue what the setting depth chart is. I think a 5-1 is likely with Keefe playing 6-rotations, so I thought Muir and Penn might split front row and back row setting duties to maximize defense. I really hope Duke has better options than Richardson at OH this year but I just don't know if any of the other OH will be consistent enough offensively and passing-wise to beat her out as the only upperclassman OH. I feel like Nagel prioritizes OH who are decent passers (which is why I think at least 1 of Richardson/Hamlin/Ingram may start) but I agree Duke is going to need more offense than just Keefe. If Williams/Thrower both start (I especially like Williams' potential), then I see both being DS'ed in the backrow. Between Underwood, Godschall, and Tomlak, Duke should have decent L/DS options. I also think Paalman will start along with Kadel at MB, with White being a blocking sub. I had high hopes for Iloh when she picked Duke but I'm not sure where she fits in this year. Omg im sorry I didn't see this reply. No problem, it's been fun to go back and forth about the possibilities with this Duke roster. I think a 5-1 is likely as well. Muir and Penn spliting front and back row would be interesting. I hadn't thought of that possibility. Very good points on if anyone will beat out Richardson & Nagel prioritizing passing. I'm concerned for Keefe's arm. I could say that happening with DSing both OHs. Tomlak and Underwood struggled a bit last season but I could totally see all three L/DS seeing the court for Duke. Yeah idk where Iloh fits. Maybe it's my optimism but I was kind of hoping that she could come back for RS Sr year and see if she can crack the middle rotation in 2025. However, it seems like she's done after this year. |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 11:13:54 GMT -5
I'm in shock with the starting lineup....
Kerry Keefe looks to have been moved to the left. This lineup is....
OH: Kerry Keefe
OH: Lauren Ingram
MB: Breonna Goss
MB: Rylie Kadel
OPP: Ngozi Iloh
S: Nikki Quinn
L: Mailinh Godschall
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Post by jcvball22 on Aug 30, 2024 11:18:55 GMT -5
I'm in shock with the starting lineup.... Kerry Keefe looks to have been moved to the left. This lineup is.... OH: Kerry Keefe OH: Lauren Ingram MB: Breonna Goss MB: Rylie Kadel OPP: Ngozi Iloh S: Nikki Quinn L: Mailinh Godschall Watching this is MESSY It really does nothing to maximize the talent they have. Yikes. |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 11:20:02 GMT -5
Nevermind Lauren Ingram is the DS. Taylor Williams is front row??
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 11:21:17 GMT -5
I'm in shock with the starting lineup.... Kerry Keefe looks to have been moved to the left. This lineup is.... OH: Kerry Keefe OH: Lauren Ingram MB: Breonna Goss MB: Rylie Kadel OPP: Ngozi Iloh S: Nikki Quinn L: Mailinh Godschall Watching this is MESSY It really does nothing to maximize the talent they have. Yikes. Nagel likes to play around with lineups this first week. She's not serious |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 11:28:19 GMT -5
Oh wow Rachel Richardson isn't dressed. Explains some things...
I know she had an injury in the spring but wow.
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 11:51:53 GMT -5
I know it's the first game and all but respectfully, even with Rachel Richardson out this cannot be the best lineup we can do. One positive I will say is that Godschall is going to be good. Excited to see how she develops throughout the season.
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 11:57:39 GMT -5
3 Aces for Godschall already. She's on the Mackenzie Cole path.
Good adjustment by Nagel. Respectfully, Ngozi shouldn't be serving.
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Post by jcvball22 on Aug 30, 2024 12:05:12 GMT -5
I know it's the first game and all but respectfully, even with Rachel Richardson out this cannot be the best lineup we can do. One positive I will say is that Godschall is going to be good. Excited to see how she develops throughout the season. Keefe on the left is not the right call. She's being wasted there. Quinn can't get her a hittable ball. |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 12:07:30 GMT -5
I know it's the first game and all but respectfully, even with Rachel Richardson out this cannot be the best lineup we can do. One positive I will say is that Godschall is going to be good. Excited to see how she develops throughout the season. Keefe on the left is not the right call. She's being wasted there. Quinn can't get her a hittable ball. 1000%. Maybe it's too early to say this but I don't think Quinn should be starting at setter if Kerry is on the left. Gotta be one or the other. |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 12:09:17 GMT -5
Nagel switched DSs this set. Ngozi with Barrow now. Underwood with Williams. This looks better. Ingram was really struggling that first set.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 30, 2024 12:26:28 GMT -5
Watching this is MESSY It really does nothing to maximize the talent they have. Yikes. Nagel likes to play around with lineups this first week. She's not serious Arguably the single most underperforming coach in college volleyball. |
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Post by devilhorns24 on Aug 30, 2024 12:28:46 GMT -5
Nagel likes to play around with lineups this first week. She's not serious Arguably the single most underperforming coach in college volleyball. I agree with you there. |
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