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Post by calabriavb on Sept 18, 2005 15:01:40 GMT -5
Of all the things I dislike about he Husker program I tip my hand to JC for scheduling what I think is the most difficult pre-conference schedule. I don't think Stanford, Penn State, Hawaii, Pepperdine and so on are very good but at lest its not Northsouthwest Podunk U.
Congrats to C Johnson... Huge win over UT (all that talent at UT?) looks like ISU could become the flagship program in Iowa (after sweeping UNI and UT) before UI and Cindy. Wondering why Cindy didn't schedule ISU? HMMM?
So who do you think has the weakest pre-conference schedule.
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Post by Keystonekid on Sept 18, 2005 15:17:41 GMT -5
Calabria, doesn't think Stanford, Penn State Hawaii are very good, I think I speak on the behalf of nearly the entire free world when I ask "than who is any good"?
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Post by lilred on Sept 18, 2005 16:30:01 GMT -5
I don't think Stanford, Penn State, Hawaii, Pepperdine and so on are very good but at lest its not Northsouthwest Podunk U. ? okie dokie
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2005 16:32:42 GMT -5
I'll speak on behalf of the enslaved world: Stanford, Penn State and Hawaii are pretty good. Pepperdine is good.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 18, 2005 16:55:38 GMT -5
Give the guy a break, he's a high school poster after all.
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Post by calabriavb on Sept 18, 2005 17:22:42 GMT -5
Forgive me, sometimes I forget that most people who read and respond to this site are not experienced coaches or have real experience being exposed to and are "good international or professional women's volleyball".
But I also thought this was a site for opinions? And I don not belive the teams I mentioned are very good by my standards.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2005 17:46:39 GMT -5
It reminds me of the old bit on Andy Griffith.
Briscoe Darling and the boys are in town, and are staying in the Mayberry Hotel. Well, it's supposed to be only Briscoe staying there, but the manager calls Andy because he thinks there are more in the room than just Briscoe. Andy comes to the room and he hears the Darlings playing their bluegrass. He knocks on the door, and it all goes quiet, and Briscoe answers the door. The exchange is something like:
AG: "Briscoe, I think you have more people staying in the room than you are supposed to." BD: "Oh you do, do you?" AG: "I hear a lot of music coming from the room." BD: "That's just me playing my jug, here." AG: "Well I could have swore I heard banjo music, not just a jug." BD: "You don't think I can make banjo sounds come out of my jug?" AG: "Well, to be honest, Briscoe, no, I don't." BD: "Man's entitled to his opinion."
The short answer: calling it an "opinion" doesn't really help much. Sometimes, people's opinions can be really dumb. In the exchange above, Briscoe implies that it is his opinion that he can make banjo sounds from a moonshine jug. Should Andy accept it, because it is his opinion? Unsupported opinions are pretty much a waste of everyone's time. Unsupportable opinions are worse, and can be the mark of a troll.
My stecond sory:
Like pretty much EVERYONE who uses the "I'm allowed to my opinion" copout, you apply a double standard. You are quick to proclaim that you be allowed to have your opinion about teams, but apparantly, no one is allowed to have a contradictory opinion. If we are allowed to discuss our opinions, then others must be allowed to express their opinion that you are a clueless idiot, if they wish. Of course, outside of BiK, no one even said that. They only questioned your judgement (lilred), questioned your reasoning (keystonekid), or simply expressed their opinion ((R)uffda).
Personally, if I were you I would take BiK's comment as probably the best option you have. Admit (whether it is true or not) that you are a naive high schooler, and move on. You may get some sympathy. Otherwise, people will just figure you are clueless.
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Post by lilred on Sept 18, 2005 18:02:20 GMT -5
Oh yeah I remember this guy (or girl). All the coaches suck. All the college teams generally suck. And he knows all because he's a former international coach. Just keep in mind compared to international teams, he/she may have a valid opinion. But as stated before we are talking about US college teams relative to each other. Now if you wanted to start a thread about how the US National Team compares to other National Teams, then you have some valid arguements. Lets keep everything relative and you won't get the kind of responses you get.
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Post by carlkeenar on Sept 18, 2005 19:10:41 GMT -5
Can't help myself...
calabriavavamalamadingdong, who in your opinion is a good college team this year.
(this ought to be good)
Who, in your VAST experience, meets your HIGHLY VAUNTED standards? Since the rest of us, obviously, have no idea what we're talking about in saying that Stanford, Penn State, and Hawaii are good.
Please, GRACE us with your divine knowledge...(holding breath)
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 18, 2005 19:15:49 GMT -5
Ruffda and I agreed on something, I looked out my window and pigs were flying, dogs and cats living together etc.... Sometimes it makes gigantic act of stupidity to bring two people together.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2005 21:53:23 GMT -5
Well, _that's_ just nonsense.
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Post by TheRange on Sept 18, 2005 23:00:37 GMT -5
I think somone is toking on the wacky weed a little too much. Calabria, despite your "extensive" volleyball experience, your opinions on collegiate volleyball are enormously innacurate. Stanford "and so on" (I'm guessing you're talking about that mediocre Minnesota squad) are all very talented teams.
How can you say it's the most difficult pre-conference schedule, yet submit that the meat of their non-schedule is filled with teams that aren't very good?
I think YOU have the weakest opinions on this board.
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Post by simplycurious on Sept 18, 2005 23:48:08 GMT -5
I forget that most people who read and respond to this site are not experienced coaches or have real experience being exposed to and are "good international or professional women's volleyball". Ok, now I'm insulted...on all counts!
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Post by Gorf on Sept 19, 2005 4:44:44 GMT -5
I forget that most people who read and respond to this site are not experienced coaches or have real experience being exposed to and are "good international or professional women's volleyball". Ok, now I'm insulted...on all counts! You might be one of the "few exceptions" to the "most people" logic (or lack thereof...)
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Post by calabriavb on Sept 19, 2005 10:49:20 GMT -5
Maybe my evaluations can be compared to the following:
A few years ago we drove our nieces to see the Nutcracker performed by the American Ballet Theatre in New York. Our nieces really enjoyed themselves but we felt the performance they saw wasn't as good as my wife and I had seen in Moscow years earlier. It is difficult to explain but the rhythm, movement, and overall production by our standards was not very good.
Some years later we took our nieces to see the Bolshoi Theatre and let them develop their own opinions...the performance in Moscow illicit emotion from our nieces that the ABT could not and to me this made the Bolshoi performnace better than the ABT production.
I do not believe many of the people on this site have anything to compare college VB with other than with other college volleyball? I have been blessed to have seen university volleyball in many countries and believe that if most Americans could also see "other" volleyball they may come to the same conclusions.
American college volleyball has some of the best athletes in the world, "but" IMHO very rarely do I see these athletes playing "together" at a level that I have seen at other universities around the world.
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