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Post by hoosierman on Sept 19, 2005 3:57:48 GMT -5
Specifically, Katie Weismiller at Indiana. She has been there since 1994, and has quote, unquote "led" the Hoosiers to NCAA Tournament appearances in '95, '98, and '02. Whooooo! Fortunately for her, the 2002 season was the last remaining year on her former contract, then they went 20-11 in the regular season and lost to Texas 3-2 in the NCAA first round. So, she got another 3 years. 2005 is the end of that extension.
It's not like IU is lacking in academic or athletic reputation, well.. except football, they'll just never be good. But, it seems like recruiting to Bloomington shouldn't be exactly like pulling teeth or something. However, being at the Big 10 cellar, of course, it's hard to get the good kids to come. They just need to start over.
Are there any other programs in this sort of situation?? Just wondering.
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Post by Gorf on Sept 19, 2005 4:29:51 GMT -5
Their 2002 season was the last year they had David Boos as an assistant coach before he got hired by Minnesota.
Iowa, was (or perhaps still may be) in that situation.
Nrthwestern was in that situation for many years, however, I think Keylor Chan has been doing a decent job of getting them headed in the right direction in recent years.
Purdue was in that situation until "The Son of Don" Shondell took over as the head coach he's turned things around there pretty quickly.
Washington wasn't an overly competitive team in the Pac-10 before Jim McLaughlin became the head coach.
Indiana's high school, and especially club programs produce a lot of high quality players (as do neighboring states like Ohio and Illinois) so I don't think there is any reason why the Hoosiers couldn't be a much more successful program with instate and nearby state recruits.
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Post by rocket on Sept 19, 2005 6:57:47 GMT -5
It seems a little early for this thread to get started. Regarding Wiesmiller, she is very much respected by the administration and her cohorts at Indiana. The Hoosier faithful have never been too concerned about their volleyball and I think they like the fact that Katie runs a clean program with good kids. She has had enough success to satisfy the previous AD's. Her recruiting class this year is outstanding and if she can experience success this fall, I expect her to stay in place at IU. Recruiting to Indiana University for volleyball is not that easy. They play in a gym that is 2 miles from campus and there is no winning tradition of any kind.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 19, 2005 8:24:15 GMT -5
Purdue was in that situation until "The Son of Don" Shondell took over as the head coach he's turned things around there pretty quickly. And if you think about it a bit, you realize that IU has the same opportunity, to get the other "Son of Don." John turned down an assistant job at Nebraska. Sounds to me like he doesn't want to move into a different assistant position. A head coach, otoh? I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't want him at the other end of the state as a competitor, but he's too good to not move up. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 19, 2005 8:54:30 GMT -5
It seems a little early for this thread to get started. Regarding Wiesmiller, she is very much respected by the administration and her cohorts at Indiana. The Hoosier faithful have never been too concerned about their volleyball and I think they like the fact that Katie runs a clean program with good kids. She has had enough success to satisfy the previous AD's. Her recruiting class this year is outstanding and if she can experience success this fall, I expect her to stay in place at IU. Recruiting to Indiana University for volleyball is not that easy. They play in a gym that is 2 miles from campus and there is no winning tradition of any kind. Well, if her recruiting class is good, and the administration likes her, maybe it's worth keeping her around a few more years to give her a shot. Her success in the past suggests she can do it... |
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Post by silversurfer on Sept 19, 2005 9:43:50 GMT -5
I'd imagine that the rest of the Big 10 would be more than happy for Katie to stay. She is a really nice person.
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Post by cougvb on Sept 19, 2005 11:00:53 GMT -5
Pacific, Weber State, SDSU
Hopefully the administrators will let them know it's put up or shut up time. No surprises, please.
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Post by Tdome2 on Sept 19, 2005 11:50:00 GMT -5
Pacific, Weber State, SDSU Hopefully the administrators will let them know it's put up or shut up time. No surprises, please. SDSU is long overdue... |
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Sept 19, 2005 12:26:12 GMT -5
I'd imagine that the rest of the Big 10 would be more than happy for Katie to stay. She is a really nice person. This brings up another question (maybe a new thread). Since VB in most large universities is not a "money maker", should administration even worry about the record of the coach, especially if they are a nice person and "everyone" likes them despite their mediocre season after season? |
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 19, 2005 13:12:56 GMT -5
Fortunately for the coaches (and unfortunately for the fans), volleyball is not a visible program so many can hide in relative comfort. Some even carved a long career out of living in obscurity. It's no different in real life. I knew many people who were under the radar because they were associated with less visible departments. There was one guy -- a terrible attorney -- but he worked in the Transactional Dept, a mere support arm for our other Business-generating departments. It's like the Video Rental dept of Longs Drugs: It doesn't generate any profits for Longs Drugs; in fact, it's a money-loser. But it's there to serve people who are there to buy other products but who may also want to rent a DVD now and then. It merely supports the other depts.
Anyway, everyone thought he should be fired but came Review Day, he just went unnoticed because no one cared enough. Before you know it, eight years have gone by and he's still there! They eventually made him Of Counsel and then Partner because all the other good attorneys jumped ship to bigger and better things. They had no one else and so they had to move him up. It was hilarious when that day came. When all my former co-workers and I talk about him, we're always asking each other, "He's still there?" and "How the hell did he make partner?"
There's something to be said for flying under the radar by being associated with less visible sorts.
In that sense, Katie is a smart cookie.
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Post by georgia(pacific)girl on Sept 19, 2005 13:43:28 GMT -5
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 19, 2005 13:51:08 GMT -5
Not sure Jerrit Elliot should be booted, but there will be a very close eye kept on that vb program. The loss to Iowa St is so unacceptable. There is no way Texas should lose to Iowa St. with all due respect to the job CJ is doing there. Texas has as good or better resources than any program in the country. They have as deep a pool of talent in their home state, It is a top notch academic institute, great campus/city, 1st rate facilities big salaries. They have everything you could want to be a top ten program and compete consistantly for national championships. If you go down the list of their men's and womens sports, nobody is losing to the bottom teams in the conference and nearly all are competing for titles. Jerrit has really been given the benefit of the doubt, mess the last coach left, young, injuries etc....If they have a rough season don't be shocked if they make a change, Texas has very high standards for their coaches and teams.
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Post by hoosierman on Sept 19, 2005 15:55:44 GMT -5
Dave Boos left after my junior year, the 2001-2002 academic year, and the Hoosiers went to the tourney the year after. (The 2002 fall season) Which, of course, Amorph, is not a knock on Dave because most of the team were his kids he recruited. It's really unfortunate to hear Wischmeier might be out with her injury, she really seems like a great person. Boos did recruit her to come to IU, and it came down to a choice between Archibald and Wischmeier. That year's recruiting class consisted of 4 kids, THREE of whom did not complete their four years. I WISCH they had Wischeier now. By the way, UMinn fans, any way you can get Boos back to IU???  He told me once he would love the opportunity to be the HEAD coach at the university. But that was in 2002. Looooong time ago. Anyways, I still root for him; he's such a good guy. Best of luck to the Gophers. |
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Post by Gorf on Sept 19, 2005 16:26:36 GMT -5
IU could always try to get Dave's brother who has gotten UM Duluth (DII school) moved solidly up in the rankings over the path couple of years.
I agree that Dave is a good (and extremely talented) guy. I think he's made an big impact on the Gopher program in the relatively short time he's been here and I hope he stays with the team indefinitely. Though I do realize there will likely be plenty of opportunities for him to take over as the full time head coach as other schools in the years to come.
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Post by Gorf on Sept 19, 2005 16:35:10 GMT -5
I'd imagine that the rest of the Big 10 would be more than happy for Katie to stay. She is a really nice person. This brings up another question (maybe a new thread). Since VB in most large universities is not a "money maker", should administration even worry about the record of the coach, especially if they are a nice person and "everyone" likes them despite their mediocre season after season? Outside of DI-A schools the majority of fotball are also not "money makers" and as of the last time I checked "only" 60-70% of the DI-A football programs were "money makers". The Gopher football program is one of the "money makers" but they've managed to have mediocre (at best) teams for most the past 20 years that I've lived in the area. They seem to want to hold onto their coach despite mediocrity and I'm not even sure he's a "nice" person. ((* I'm expecting some nice Gopher football fan to hunt me down and feed me to a wood chipper shortly... *)) |
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He told me once he would love the opportunity to be the HEAD coach at the university. But that was in 2002. Looooong time ago. Anyways, I still root for him; he's such a good guy. Best of luck to the Gophers.