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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 26, 2023 19:55:35 GMT -5
I assume you are asking what happens with RS when we run out of subs? The RS and setter on the floor stay on and Wrobel stays on the bench. Not sure I'm understanding the question. TTA, Franklin, and GG passing, and Robinson playing BR defense for three rotations may not be a recipe for success in close match against a top team. Nothing we've seen this weekend suggests it will work. So you make sure Orzol is the DS for RS and can play all the way around. Orzol assumes OH and everyone takes a turn at RS. And by everyone I mean you don't switch your pins with Orzol, Franklin and Thomas-A. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 26, 2023 20:28:19 GMT -5
TTA, Franklin, and GG passing, and Robinson playing BR defense for three rotations may not be a recipe for success in close match against a top team. Nothing we've seen this weekend suggests it will work. So you make sure Orzol is the DS for RS and can play all the way around. Orzol assumes OH and everyone takes a turn at RS. And by everyone I mean you don't switch your pins with Orzol, Franklin and Thomas-A. So you are suggesting Orzol is not playing the first 2 sets of rotations? I was starting from the lineup where Orzol was DSing for TTA in the BR. That is the lineup mentioned in the broadcast. In that lineup, Orzol stays in when UW runs low on subs. But that leaves the RS (probably Robinson) playing BR. You'd want to sub her too with someone who could play front row but also play BR defense. Maybe Robinson could do that? But would probably be a new thing for her. You could also leave Orzol out for the beginning of the match and hope that you can pass well enough to get to the point where she has to sub in for the RS. I'm just not sure the ball handling would be good enough to get you to that point. |
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Post by Badger Alum on Aug 27, 2023 10:47:00 GMT -5
Surprised by the lineup changes. I really liked last night's lineup. Concerted effort to set Robinson and it paid off. Robinson was the stud of this match. Just dominant. Hitting over blocks, around blocks and with a lot of power. Pick your poison. What a joy it must be to set for this team knowing they always have 3-4 legit options every time. And TTA didn't even play. I bet TTA plays both matches at Arkansas while Ozrol at OH2 in one match and Frank at OH2 in the other. I’m not betting on Julia at Libero in either of those. The arms we have means we can give people a day off to keep everyone fresh. Spread the workload and prevent anyone from getting tired at the end of the season. I would like to see Franklin get a day off. She's coming back from an injury and we need her strong in December. |
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Post by Trojan on Aug 27, 2023 11:21:58 GMT -5
I bet TTA plays both matches at Arkansas while Ozrol at OH2 in one match and Frank at OH2 in the other. I’m not betting on Julia at Libero in either of those. The arms we have means we can give people a day off to keep everyone fresh. Spread the workload and prevent anyone from getting tired at the end of the season. I would like to see Franklin get a day off. She's coming back from an injury and we need her strong in December. +1 to giving Franklin a day off. Someone somewhere (probably within this thread) mentioned now is a good time to collect data and I couldn't agree more - explore with different lineups and more importantly, let the players get match reps in (compared to practice gym) when given an opportunity. Test & learn, test & learn, test & learn during pre-conference. |
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Post by vbdiva on Aug 27, 2023 11:55:28 GMT -5
Again, as I said two years ago, Orzol will be the libero. She is too dynamic, has such a presence on the court, and is a natural leader -- she'll be out there. her left side backrow coverage, where GG gets burned often by tips or straight-up bangers, is unmatched.
Franklin will need to stop her shot rolls... HIT THE DAMN BALL! If Franklin fades out, please try to give Wrobel a shot!
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Post by hipsterfilth on Aug 27, 2023 11:59:53 GMT -5
I'm conflicted. Orzol's serve receive is great, but I'd like to see her as the DS so she can bang from the back row as an outlet.
For a team with as dynamic of an offense as Wisconsin has, GG's secondary setting as the L is unmatched and it seems like the best way to utilize the total package of the team. Too often last season, the team struggled in trans as teams could easily take the setter out of the play -- you don't even need a back row outlet when the secondary sets are butter like they were last night.
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Post by dbro1970 on Aug 27, 2023 13:31:55 GMT -5
Post match analyst agreeing with me about the best lineup. TTA at OH. GG at L, Orzol DSing for TTA. Thought the best lineup that played was yesterdays. But maybe Robinson doesn't go off without Orzol in at OH. Some big problems 1. What happens when you have to switch to a 5-1. Wrobel is the only option at RS unless you stick with Devyn - and there isn't enough passing with Orzol out. 2. Julia is such an important personality on the floor. Less time on the floor is tricky. Half rotations don't have a dependable passer. 3. No serving specialists. if you run out of subs you are stuck with the RS on the floor. I also do not see where Wrobel enters the condo. If you can sub her in, you are not out of subs. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 27, 2023 13:51:31 GMT -5
I'm conflicted. Orzol's serve receive is great, but I'd like to see her as the DS so she can bang from the back row as an outlet. For a team with as dynamic of an offense as Wisconsin has, GG's secondary setting as the L is unmatched and it seems like the best way to utilize the total package of the team. Too often last season, the team struggled in trans as teams could easily take the setter out of the play -- you don't even need a back row outlet when the secondary sets are butter like they were last night. Wisconsin's biggest risk is going into the shank tank. Does not seem smart to keep their best receiver off the floor for half the game. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 27, 2023 13:52:13 GMT -5
Post match analyst agreeing with me about the best lineup. TTA at OH. GG at L, Orzol DSing for TTA. Thought the best lineup that played was yesterdays. But maybe Robinson doesn't go off without Orzol in at OH. Some big problems 1. What happens when you have to switch to a 5-1. Wrobel is the only option at RS unless you stick with Devyn - and there isn't enough passing with Orzol out. 2. Julia is such an important personality on the floor. Less time on the floor is tricky. Half rotations don't have a dependable passer. 3. No serving specialists. if you run out of subs you are stuck with the RS on the floor. I also do not see where Wrobel enters the condo. If you can sub her in, you are not out of subs. My wording isn't super clear. Before you get stuck in a 5-1, how do you arrange your subs to get the best team out there? Using Orzol as a DS for TTA, you have three subs left to make after two times through the rotations (if there haven't been serving subs). One could be for Orzol if she isn't already on the floor, one will be for Ashburn, and for the last you might have Wrobel instead of Robinson to keep the latter from having to play BR D. I'm just posing Wrobel as one option for the RS sub. She can hit from the RS or the left, but I don't know how well she can play BR D. I do think that Robinson having such a good match yesterday is partly the result of Orzol playing left side. There was better ball control with her passing 6 ros and GG setting OOS. That meant Ashburn could set the RS more effectively. Orzol sees more passes as an OH because teams are targeting her to keep her off the net. |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Aug 27, 2023 14:20:50 GMT -5
I'm conflicted. Orzol's serve receive is great, but I'd like to see her as the DS so she can bang from the back row as an outlet. For a team with as dynamic of an offense as Wisconsin has, GG's secondary setting as the L is unmatched and it seems like the best way to utilize the total package of the team. Too often last season, the team struggled in trans as teams could easily take the setter out of the play -- you don't even need a back row outlet when the secondary sets are butter like they were last night. Wisconsin's biggest risk is going into the shank tank. Does not seem smart to keep their best receiver off the floor for half the game. Agreed. I would like to see her push other players out of the way a bit more in SR if that's gonna be the strat. She seems to be too nice to tell Franklin to gtfo. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 27, 2023 14:29:10 GMT -5
Wisconsin's biggest risk is going into the shank tank. Does not seem smart to keep their best receiver off the floor for half the game. Agreed. I would like to see her push other players out of the way a bit more in SR if that's gonna be the strat. She seems to be too nice to tell Franklin to gtfo. As libero she was doing that a bit... stepping in front of other passers. And they were letting her. It was good to see. I feel that a lot of our problem passing is that there is no one taking charge of the seams. No one feels confident enough, or they are too confident given their abilities. Negotiating space is a mess. The one real strong argument for Orzol as L is that she would be the one to do that. I have always though Julia was a lot like Bates as a player, but I think she could adapt to the role better than Bates because she is just as driven but not quite as stubborn. |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Aug 27, 2023 15:01:15 GMT -5
Agreed. I would like to see her push other players out of the way a bit more in SR if that's gonna be the strat. She seems to be too nice to tell Franklin to gtfo. As libero she was doing that a bit... stepping in front of other passers. And they were letting her. It was good to see. I feel that a lot of our problem passing is that there is no one taking charge of the seams. No one feels confident enough, or they are too confident given their abilities. Negotiating space is a mess. The one real strong argument for Orzol as L is that she would be the one to do that. I have always though Julia was a lot like Bates as a player, but I think she could adapt to the role better than Bates because she is just as driven but not quite as stubborn. I didn't see it too much when she was L, but too be fair I was more busy ooh-ing over TTA.  |
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Post by maigrey on Aug 27, 2023 16:54:10 GMT -5
As libero she was doing that a bit... stepping in front of other passers. And they were letting her. It was good to see. I feel that a lot of our problem passing is that there is no one taking charge of the seams. No one feels confident enough, or they are too confident given their abilities. Negotiating space is a mess. The one real strong argument for Orzol as L is that she would be the one to do that. I have always though Julia was a lot like Bates as a player, but I think she could adapt to the role better than Bates because she is just as driven but not quite as stubborn. I didn't see it too much when she was L, but too be fair I was more busy ooh-ing over TTA. Julia totally stepped in front of TTA on at least one SR, so she's willing to do that. |
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