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Post by HawaiiVB on May 23, 2024 21:37:51 GMT -5
Franklin and Kaelin graduated I believe with eligibility. Ali would have been a starter. Like most teams, the portal will be a factor. The best thing is to wish everyone luck and move on. With all the challenges Hawai’i has faced like four head coaches since it’s inception, and of course COVID, it’s trying to build a solid foundation. To find students who want to be here and earn a spot while gaining an education is a buy-in must.
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Post by volleycoach2310 on May 27, 2024 2:29:50 GMT -5
Players that made the trip: Santer, Embry, Glagau, Napoleon, Miller, Maidment, Amiatu, Wagoner, Burton, Lorenzo, Thelle, Ali, Franklin, Mann We'll see if Evan keeps Lorenzo in or puts Thelle back in the line-up. Does this mean not all players get to go to Nationals? I know teams have travel rosters sometimes but I would think for Nationals everyone would get to go?
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Post by volleycoach2310 on May 27, 2024 2:53:51 GMT -5
Part of Hawaii's problem seems to be not enough players like Pani Napoleon. I will take the 5'6"-5'8" Pani, Peri Brennan, Ashley Pater, Kristen Nuss, Allanis Navas (heck she's only 5'4") types over some big girls who don't move well. Typically their ball control is far superior as well. Don't care how hard they can hit if they can't pass. With the right recruiting classes and some good grabs from the portal they might be able to stay relevant. Will be tough with programs like Cal Poly on fire though.
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Post by HawaiiVB on May 28, 2024 2:07:23 GMT -5
Part of Hawaii's problem seems to be not enough players like Pani Napoleon. I will take the 5'6"-5'8" Pani, Peri Brennan, Ashley Pater, Kristen Nuss, Allanis Navas (heck she's only 5'4") types over some big girls who don't move well. Typically their ball control is far superior as well. Don't care how hard they can hit if they can't pass. With the right recruiting classes and some good grabs from the portal they might be able to stay relevant. Will be tough with programs like Cal Poly on fire though. Not sure what the recruiting targets are, but for many of the top teams, they are utilizing the hybrid duo’s for the most part. Not much of the blocker defender type duo’s at the one’s. You need bigs who can defend and smalls who can play at the net. The 6 foot hybrids are popular nowadays.
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Post by volleycoach2310 on May 29, 2024 1:12:14 GMT -5
Part of Hawaii's problem seems to be not enough players like Pani Napoleon. I will take the 5'6"-5'8" Pani, Peri Brennan, Ashley Pater, Kristen Nuss, Allanis Navas (heck she's only 5'4") types over some big girls who don't move well. Typically their ball control is far superior as well. Don't care how hard they can hit if they can't pass. With the right recruiting classes and some good grabs from the portal they might be able to stay relevant. Will be tough with programs like Cal Poly on fire though. Not sure what the recruiting targets are, but for many of the top teams, they are utilizing the hybrid duo’s for the most part. Not much of the blocker defender type duo’s at the one’s. You need bigs who can defend and smalls who can play at the net. The 6 foot hybrids are popular nowadays. That is probably where a lot of programs are going wrong. Winning at the 1’s isn’t the only thing that matters…sure it looks good for your program when your players end up in the Olympics but it takes 3 lines to win. Been doing this a long time and RARELY if ever do I see 6’ defenders who move like the 5’6”-5’8” ones. Rarely do they have first contact control like the little ones too. I see small players beat big players often and it comes down to ball control and minimizing errors. Kristen Nuss certainly isn’t going to the Olympics due to her size. I get her partner is 6’4” but she is the one doing most of the siding out and picking up balls all over the place.
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Post by vballfreak808 on May 30, 2024 0:21:21 GMT -5
Silberstein was interviewed recently, talking about upcoming clinics for the keiki. Only tidbit for the upcoming season is that for fall camp they are going back to Kauai for a tournament and clinic and Cal Poly will be coming again along with UCLA
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Post by HawaiiVB on May 30, 2024 14:40:01 GMT -5
Not sure what the recruiting targets are, but for many of the top teams, they are utilizing the hybrid duo’s for the most part. Not much of the blocker defender type duo’s at the one’s. You need bigs who can defend and smalls who can play at the net. The 6 foot hybrids are popular nowadays. That is probably where a lot of programs are going wrong. Winning at the 1’s isn’t the only thing that matters…sure it looks good for your program when your players end up in the Olympics but it takes 3 lines to win. Been doing this a long time and RARELY if ever do I see 6’ defenders who move like the 5’6”-5’8” ones. Rarely do they have first contact control like the little ones too. I see small players beat big players often and it comes down to ball control and minimizing errors. Kristen Nuss certainly isn’t going to the Olympics due to her size. I get her partner is 6’4” but she is the one doing most of the siding out and picking up balls all over the place. Oh, I AGREE. I wonder if the game has changed so much that skill-wise you have to be an all-around (er) vs specialist. From top to bottom, all flights have to pull their weight, especially the early flights just to grab the lead and hold on. This past season, most of the top teams could pull off the reverse sweep so even being two up, means little against a top team.
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Post by volleycoach2310 on May 30, 2024 14:46:08 GMT -5
That is probably where a lot of programs are going wrong. Winning at the 1’s isn’t the only thing that matters…sure it looks good for your program when your players end up in the Olympics but it takes 3 lines to win. Been doing this a long time and RARELY if ever do I see 6’ defenders who move like the 5’6”-5’8” ones. Rarely do they have first contact control like the little ones too. I see small players beat big players often and it comes down to ball control and minimizing errors. Kristen Nuss certainly isn’t going to the Olympics due to her size. I get her partner is 6’4” but she is the one doing most of the siding out and picking up balls all over the place. Oh, I AGREE. I wonder if the game has changed so much that skill-wise you have to be an all-around (er) vs specialist. From top to bottom, all flights have to pull their weight, especially the early flights just to grab the lead and hold on. This past season, most of the top teams could pull off the reverse sweep so even being two up, means little against a top team. I absolutely would take the all around player over the player who excels at blocking but struggles with passing and or setting…or the all around ball control over the big bounce type hitter. Consistency is so important. Ball control too.
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Post by ancksunamun on Jun 13, 2024 19:10:31 GMT -5
What has happened to this program. 4 years ago, Hawaii a regular in the Top 5 and was a national championship contender. Now we're not even in the top 10 and can't even recruit any top players to Hawaii. ?
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Post by HawaiiVB on Jun 13, 2024 21:27:56 GMT -5
What has happened to this program. 4 years ago, Hawaii a regular in the Top 5 and was a national championship contender. Now we're not even in the top 10 and can't even recruit any top players to Hawaii. ? Nothing happened except more schools started competing. With the adoption of beach volleyball as a girl's high school sport, at least two states, California and Arizona have churned out seasoned freshman players who have flooded the collegiate game. As they spread out, more schools will enjoy success. Hawai'i has had a fair amount of high school AA types, but the top schools have them from top to bottom and some are on the sidelines waiting their turn. It's all about numbers.
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Post by southeastvolley on Jun 13, 2024 21:32:19 GMT -5
What has happened to this program. 4 years ago, Hawaii a regular in the Top 5 and was a national championship contender. Now we're not even in the top 10 and can't even recruit any top players to Hawaii. ? I imagine it's probably a challenge to get the top players from conus because it's going to be near t o impossible for family to come see them play. Maybe if they are from west coast, but that's almost a 6 hour flight from LA. If you are from central US or eastern US that's a LOT of extra time in the air to get to there. Yes, you get to go to school and play in paradise, but I suspect a lot of the top recruits don't even consider Hawaii due to logistics of getting there and cost.
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Post by OuchMyBack on Jun 14, 2024 6:28:39 GMT -5
What has happened to this program. 4 years ago, Hawaii a regular in the Top 5 and was a national championship contender. Now we're not even in the top 10 and can't even recruit any top players to Hawaii. ? I imagine it's probably a challenge to get the top players from conus because it's going to be near t o impossible for family to come see them play. Maybe if they are from west coast, but that's almost a 6 hour flight from LA. If you are from central US or eastern US that's a LOT of extra time in the air to get to there. Yes, you get to go to school and play in paradise, but I suspect a lot of the top recruits don't even consider Hawaii due to logistics of getting there and cost. This is pretty much spot on. It takes a special kind of athlete who is comfortable with moving far away from family and friends. Recruiting also is tougher with most universities getting to know athletes (and athletes getting to know coaches) at 1-2 day camps which is just not feasible for most people to make that trip. It's an uphill battle that is being fought using internationals and finding the couple athletes that really want that unique experience.
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Post by newbeach on Jun 15, 2024 12:56:29 GMT -5
I imagine it's probably a challenge to get the top players from conus because it's going to be near t o impossible for family to come see them play. Maybe if they are from west coast, but that's almost a 6 hour flight from LA. If you are from central US or eastern US that's a LOT of extra time in the air to get to there. Yes, you get to go to school and play in paradise, but I suspect a lot of the top recruits don't even consider Hawaii due to logistics of getting there and cost. This is pretty much spot on. It takes a special kind of athlete who is comfortable with moving far away from family and friends. Recruiting also is tougher with most universities getting to know athletes (and athletes getting to know coaches) at 1-2 day camps which is just not feasible for most people to make that trip. It's an uphill battle that is being fought using internationals and finding the couple athletes that really want that unique experience. UH should maintain its focus on recruiting Canadian athletes. Many of these athletes seek educational opportunities in the U.S. to play beach volleyball, making Hawaii an attractive destination. UH has maintained a reputation for recruiting Canadian athletes and must continue to do so. They should have a Canadian liaison knowledgeable about promising young talent that may go under the radar of the top schools. Stanford has actively been recruiting more of Canada's top players. Recruiting players from other countries might be helpful too, but it carries a higher risk as these individuals have to adapt to different cultures and cope with being further from home.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 17, 2024 10:42:31 GMT -5
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 19, 2024 17:05:14 GMT -5
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