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Post by robtearle on Oct 17, 2023 11:26:07 GMT -5
So Cook lost the last 4? matches against Sheffield and coaching any day of the week except the last 4? meetings. And I still don't like either one of them. 10. |
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Post by jwvolley on Oct 17, 2023 11:31:38 GMT -5
Not sure why Husker fans arent taking the opportunity to feel like an underdog for once. not a husker fan but maybe because they're not an underdog lol, both teams are undefeated and the opinion of who's better is basically split down the middle. experience means nothing the Nebraska starters are as talented as anyone You're being a bit extreme on this. Experience absolutely does not mean "nothing". It is for sure an advantage. That doesn't mean it's the end all be all though and Nebraska's got a ton of skill and athleticism. Lots of talent on both sides and Nebraska can win, but Wisconsin's experience cannot be ignored like it isn't a factor in how close their players are to their potential compared to multiple young players for Nebraska with years of college development to go. OH: 4th year senior, 5th year senior OPP: 3rd year junior, 4th year senior S: 4th year senior, 5th year senior MB: 4th year senior, 2nd year sophomore LB: 3rd year junior (though new to the position) |
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Post by knapplc on Oct 17, 2023 11:35:07 GMT -5
Not sure why Husker fans arent taking the opportunity to feel like an underdog for once. For once? We were the underdog against Stanford. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 17, 2023 11:37:11 GMT -5
This run by WI has more to do with the quality of setters between the two schools. And Dana Rettke. Yes. In this run, Wisconsin has always had the best player and a wide margin advantage at the setting position. Without going all the way back, I’m pretty sure Wisconsin just had the better of the two teams in every match. To their credit, they took care of business. |
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Post by robtearle on Oct 17, 2023 11:38:32 GMT -5
Yes. In this run, Wisconsin has always had the best player and a wide margin advantage at the setting position. Without going all the way back, I’m pretty sure Wisconsin just had the better of the two teams in every match. To their credit, they took care of business. To the coach's credit, who recruited and trained those players. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 17, 2023 11:39:45 GMT -5
Cook may be an ass, but he would out coach Sheffield any day of the week He didn’t out coach him in the national championship game. He’s openly admitted spinning the dial in the 5th was a mistake. Both great coaches at this time. Certainly in Sheffields early years at Wisconsin Cook had the edge. The last few years I’d call it a draw at best and may lean towards Sheffield. [/quote] Well, Cook also had them in that game five with an inferior team, so that speaks to his coaching. As it relates to this match, neither team has any coaching advantage, the team that plays the critical points better will win. |
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Post by mibadger on Oct 17, 2023 11:43:37 GMT -5
Cook may be an ass, but he would out coach Sheffield any day of the week He didn’t out coach him in the national championship game. He’s openly admitted spinning the dial in the 5th was a mistake. Both great coaches at this time. Certainly in Sheffields early years at Wisconsin Cook had the edge. The last few years I’d call it a draw at best and may lean towards Sheffield. Well, Cook also had them in that game five with an inferior team, so that speaks to his coaching. As it relates to this match, neither team has any coaching advantage, the team that plays the critical points better will win. [/quote] Oh I agree. Cook is a great coach for sure. Sheffield has just had his number lately. Hopefully can continue for a few more matches but the streak wont continue forever. |
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Post by haterade on Oct 17, 2023 11:47:39 GMT -5
Not sure why Husker fans arent taking the opportunity to feel like an underdog for once. For once? We were the underdog against Stanford. Ok. For twice |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Oct 17, 2023 11:48:35 GMT -5
Just checking to see if there was anything worthwhile going on in this thread. Still the same old arguments. I'll see myself out.
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 17, 2023 11:57:31 GMT -5
not a husker fan but maybe because they're not an underdog lol, both teams are undefeated and the opinion of who's better is basically split down the middle. experience means nothing the Nebraska starters are as talented as anyone You're being a bit extreme on this. Experience absolutely does not mean "nothing". It is for sure an advantage. That doesn't mean it's the end all be all though and Nebraska's got a ton of skill and athleticism. Lots of talent on both sides and Nebraska can win, but Wisconsin's experience cannot be ignored like it isn't a factor in how close their players are to their potential compared to multiple young players for Nebraska with years of college development to go. OH: 4th year senior, 5th year senior OPP: 3rd year junior, 4th year senior S: 4th year senior, 5th year senior MB: 4th year senior, 2nd year sophomore LB: 3rd year junior (though new to the position) yes wisconsin has way more experience but I just dont think it matters as much in the actual game, especially with Nebraska being at home. the wisconsin lineup is definitely closer to their potential than Nebraska is... I dont get why that matters though? im not comparing whose lineup is gonna be better by the end of their college careers, because the match is happening this weekend. the usual assumption is that more skill comes with more experience, but I dont think wisconsin is necessarily more skilled in their more experienced areas. like the setters for example - reilly is bounds better than both of the wisco setters regardless of all the experience they have on her, and the younger Nebraska OHs are also hitting a higher combined % than the more experienced ones from wisco |
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Post by mibadger on Oct 17, 2023 11:57:44 GMT -5
Assuming Wisconsin plays a 5-1 again Wednesday do we think it’s a Badger advantage that Nebraska may not know what system Wisconsin plans to run Saturday? Or does it just not matter that much?
If Robinson is out is it worth it to stay in a 5-1 until she is ready to go or do we switch back to a 5-2 with GG at bro and Orzol hitting and playing 6 rotations and TTA switching sides even tho that’s a lineup we haven’t played a live match in this year. Guess it might depend on if Sheffield thinks MJ is rusty and needs a few days in the gym assuming she is given medical clearance. Hopefully everyone is healthy and at 100 percent.
Either way it’s going to be a fantastic match. I hope both programs take care of business tomorrow.
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Oct 17, 2023 11:59:46 GMT -5
Ok want to add something that I haven’t seen talked about much.
A big thing with this young Husker team is they are closing out sets much better than recent past Husker teams. That gives me hope. Did a little research and in the last 5 matches (you’re welcome Sporty) Wisconsin won 15 sets. 8 of those 15 were won by 2 points (-23,23,24,23,23,24,29,23). Absolutely brutal. Nebraska has won 4 sets and only one was a 2 point win (-21,14,22,23).
So a big question is will Wisconsin win late again or will the Huskers push through, like they did set 1 vs Stanford?
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Post by juancook on Oct 17, 2023 12:03:40 GMT -5
I think this Huskers team is more fearless than inexperienced at this point. I agree with posters who have said that these freshman don't have the experience of losing to Wisconsin. They don't have the 2021 experience of losing the National Championship to Wisconsin. But they also have not faced the type of team that Wisconsin is this season.
They went into the Stanford match being fearless and winning that match when many (including me) thought they would lose. They've continued to be fearless against many top 25 teams, as well in the face of adversity of grinding out wins where inexperience would have led to a loss.
Wisconsin has done the same. They've had some tough wins, some real grinders, and some very dominating performances all season long. Nothing but respect for the program and their season so far!
In my eyes, we are the underdog. But only slightly! I see this match going the full distance. I see every set being close. I see a masterclass in coaching from both sides. In my eyes, this upcoming match could not be any closer with both teams as far as quality and talent. Probably the closest in quite some time.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 17, 2023 12:12:13 GMT -5
I think this Huskers team is more fearless than inexperienced at this point. I agree with posters who have said that these freshman don't have the experience of losing to Wisconsin. They don't have the 2021 experience of losing the National Championship to Wisconsin. But they also have not faced the type of team that Wisconsin is this season. They went into the Stanford match being fearless and winning that match when many (including me) thought they would lose. They've continued to be fearless against many top 25 teams, as well in the face of adversity of grinding out wins where inexperience would have led to a loss. Wisconsin has done the same. They've had some tough wins, some real grinders, and some very dominating performances all season long. Nothing but respect for the program and their season so far! In my eyes, we are the underdog. But only slightly! I see this match going the full distance. I see every set being close. I see a masterclass in coaching from both sides. In my eyes, this upcoming match could not be any closer with both teams as far as quality and talent. Probably the closest in quite some time. Stanford is of the same quality as Wisconsin. I’d give Wisconsin a slight edge based on experience, recent form, that edge is probably negated by the home court advantage. This is a pick ‘em for me. |
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Post by blo743 on Oct 17, 2023 12:27:29 GMT -5
I think this Huskers team is more fearless than inexperienced at this point. I agree with posters who have said that these freshman don't have the experience of losing to Wisconsin. They don't have the 2021 experience of losing the National Championship to Wisconsin. But they also have not faced the type of team that Wisconsin is this season. They went into the Stanford match being fearless and winning that match when many (including me) thought they would lose. They've continued to be fearless against many top 25 teams, as well in the face of adversity of grinding out wins where inexperience would have led to a loss. Wisconsin has done the same. They've had some tough wins, some real grinders, and some very dominating performances all season long. Nothing but respect for the program and their season so far! In my eyes, we are the underdog. But only slightly! I see this match going the full distance. I see every set being close. I see a masterclass in coaching from both sides. In my eyes, this upcoming match could not be any closer with both teams as far as quality and talent. Probably the closest in quite some time. Stanford is of the same quality as Wisconsin. I’d give Wisconsin a slight edge based on experience, recent form, that edge is probably negated by the home court advantage. This is a pick ‘em for me. I don’t think home court advantage really matters to the badgers. They’ve played some massive away games at Marquette, florida, Arkansas, etc and came out on top every time |
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