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Post by vbcoach06 on May 9, 2024 10:15:05 GMT -5
Purdue...Fort Wayne. Would be a bit of an eye opener for someone if they got to campus expecting something different. |
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Post by hangonsloopy on May 9, 2024 10:27:03 GMT -5
Purdue...Fort Wayne. Would be a bit of an eye opener for someone if they got to campus expecting something different. Omg, can't believe I missed it! Thanks for the save haha |
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Post by statsqueen on May 9, 2024 11:41:40 GMT -5
What would a studio or 1 BR apt cost in DC? I paid $1200ish for a place in Glover Park a decade ago. Nice neighborhood, right down the street from the Russian embassy. You can get just over 400 square feet in an interesting neighborhood for about $1700. In a nice neighborhood it can be $2500. There's a big range. The bigger issue is...who's going to want a graduate degree from GW when students are defacing the WWI memorial, burning the American flag, threatening death to Jews, and defacing the statue of George Washington on campus? Who wants peers like that? Not the same people who want administrators calling the police on those people.... Interested applicant pool probably reduced significantly due to all of this, and ROI for a GW degree just went WAY down.... |
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Post by jcvball22 on May 9, 2024 11:55:08 GMT -5
I paid $1200ish for a place in Glover Park a decade ago. Nice neighborhood, right down the street from the Russian embassy. You can get just over 400 square feet in an interesting neighborhood for about $1700. In a nice neighborhood it can be $2500. There's a big range. The bigger issue is...who's going to want a graduate degree from GW when students are defacing the WWI memorial, burning the American flag, threatening death to Jews, and defacing the statue of George Washington on campus? Who wants peers like that? Not the same people who want administrators calling the police on those people.... Interested applicant pool probably reduced significantly due to all of this, and ROI for a GW degree just went WAY down.... GW is a spectacular degree with an excellent ROI, no matter your attempt to bring politics into this and your certifiably non-professional opinion. Just a reminder: political discussion is not meant for this board. You want to talk about that, take it to Off The Net. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 9, 2024 12:06:53 GMT -5
The bigger issue is...who's going to want a graduate degree from GW when students are defacing the WWI memorial, burning the American flag, threatening death to Jews, and defacing the statue of George Washington on campus? Who wants peers like that? Not the same people who want administrators calling the police on those people.... Interested applicant pool probably reduced significantly due to all of this, and ROI for a GW degree just went WAY down.... My wife, for one. |
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Post by volleyguy on May 9, 2024 12:13:29 GMT -5
I paid $1200ish for a place in Glover Park a decade ago. Nice neighborhood, right down the street from the Russian embassy. You can get just over 400 square feet in an interesting neighborhood for about $1700. In a nice neighborhood it can be $2500. There's a big range. The bigger issue is...who's going to want a graduate degree from GW when students are defacing the WWI memorial, burning the American flag, threatening death to Jews, and defacing the statue of George Washington on campus? Who wants peers like that? Not the same people who want administrators calling the police on those people.... Interested applicant pool probably reduced significantly due to all of this, and ROI for a GW degree just went WAY down.... Which means it's the perfect time to enroll. Sorta like buying on the dip. |
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Post by n00b on May 9, 2024 12:42:45 GMT -5
You can get just over 400 square feet in an interesting neighborhood for about $1700. In a nice neighborhood it can be $2500. There's a big range. The bigger issue is...who's going to want a graduate degree from GW when students are defacing the WWI memorial, burning the American flag, threatening death to Jews, and defacing the statue of George Washington on campus? Who wants peers like that? Not the same people who want administrators calling the police on those people.... Interested applicant pool probably reduced significantly due to all of this, and ROI for a GW degree just went WAY down.... GW is a spectacular degree with an excellent ROI, no matter your attempt to bring politics into this and your certifiably non-professional opinion. Just a reminder: political discussion is not meant for this board. You want to talk about that, take it to Off The Net. If you're paying sticker price, I'm not sure the ROI is great. But that's just because it's ridiculously expensive. It's a very good degree, but worth paying 5x of your home state's flagship institution? Ehhhhhh. Which brings me back to my last comment. Grad school paid for plus $18k is a pretty sweet deal. |
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Post by kneepain on May 9, 2024 13:12:51 GMT -5
They just hired an assistant...safe to assume they knew this was coming and he'll be the successor. That's my guess. Interesting decision, if so. Wasn't he hired as the 2nd assistant? If he were the planned successor, wouldn't it make sense to hire him as the first assistant or associate HC? Also just read his bio... "brought D1 head coaching experience," which is technically true since he was on the men's side where D1/D2 are combined, at Belmont Abbey, but a D2 school...odd way to twist that IMO Well, they're not going to get better. |
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Post by jcvball22 on May 9, 2024 13:23:34 GMT -5
GW is a spectacular degree with an excellent ROI, no matter your attempt to bring politics into this and your certifiably non-professional opinion. Just a reminder: political discussion is not meant for this board. You want to talk about that, take it to Off The Net. If you're paying sticker price, I'm not sure the ROI is great. But that's just because it's ridiculously expensive. It's a very good degree, but worth paying 5x of your home state's flagship institution? Ehhhhhh. Which brings me back to my last comment. Grad school paid for plus $18k is a pretty sweet deal. People regularly make this argument about cost of private schools. While the sticker price for GW is high (approx $81k), the average cost after aid and merit scholarship is $26k, in line with a state school. While there will always be a certain percentage of the students that are paying full-price, that number is smaller than you think. Private schools have generally larger endowments that are earmarked for student financial aid (vs public schools, where that often isn't the case). State schools only accept the FAFSA form to determine need-based aid, which relies heavily on gross income without taking into account cost of living differences across the country. Whereas private schools have additional financial aid paperwork (like the CSS profile) that allows for further differentiation to help allocate need-based aid more appropriately. College financial aid and costs are not nearly as black-and-white as most people make it out to be. |
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Post by n00b on May 9, 2024 14:15:11 GMT -5
If you're paying sticker price, I'm not sure the ROI is great. But that's just because it's ridiculously expensive. It's a very good degree, but worth paying 5x of your home state's flagship institution? Ehhhhhh. Which brings me back to my last comment. Grad school paid for plus $18k is a pretty sweet deal. People regularly make this argument about cost of private schools. While the sticker price for GW is high (approx $81k), the average cost after aid and merit scholarship is $26k, in line with a state school. While there will always be a certain percentage of the students that are paying full-price, that number is smaller than you think. Private schools have generally larger endowments that are earmarked for student financial aid (vs public schools, where that often isn't the case). State schools only accept the FAFSA form to determine need-based aid, which relies heavily on gross income without taking into account cost of living differences across the country. Whereas private schools have additional financial aid paperwork (like the CSS profile) that allows for further differentiation to help allocate need-based aid more appropriately. College financial aid and costs are not nearly as black-and-white as most people make it out to be. True. And I’ve known private schools on both ends of that spectrum. For some, the demand to get in is high enough that they don’t need to offer that much aid. But $26k is still significantly more than in-state tuition at most state schools. The closest (geographic) comparison is Maryland at $12k per year before any merit or need based aid. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 9, 2024 14:30:14 GMT -5
People regularly make this argument about cost of private schools. While the sticker price for GW is high (approx $81k), the average cost after aid and merit scholarship is $26k, in line with a state school. While there will always be a certain percentage of the students that are paying full-price, that number is smaller than you think. Private schools have generally larger endowments that are earmarked for student financial aid (vs public schools, where that often isn't the case). State schools only accept the FAFSA form to determine need-based aid, which relies heavily on gross income without taking into account cost of living differences across the country. Whereas private schools have additional financial aid paperwork (like the CSS profile) that allows for further differentiation to help allocate need-based aid more appropriately. College financial aid and costs are not nearly as black-and-white as most people make it out to be. True. And I’ve known private schools on both ends of that spectrum. For some, the demand to get in is high enough that they don’t need to offer that much aid. Where? The cost of attendance is $26k after aid, not the tuition. Maryland's COA is $17k for comparison. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 9, 2024 14:33:39 GMT -5
Also, comparing the cost of graduate education to undergrad is really comparing two entirely different things.
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Post by rollshotcornerpocket on May 9, 2024 14:38:58 GMT -5
Here I was thinking last year was disappointing after a bunch of injuries. lol McCaw has been pretty calculated about his hires and has generally nailed them. I still think Johnson was a great hire but CUSA is a way different ball game than ASUN or Big South competition. But to see them elevate an assistant to acting head coach and essentially taking a flyer on this year and try again next cycle seems strange. Even if it was a conspiracy that they knew Johnson was going to get fired, this isn't the type of person that I think this program commands pedigree wise. They have essentially infinite resources at their disposal and the best you can do is a 4 year mens coach at D1/D2 program? I really dont buy that even this late into the cycle. I read the article about his promotion and it sounds like the girls and others have really rallied around him. But this is a pretty storied program i'd prefer someone with a little more track record taking over a program. Stuff like this during the portal era is how programs get decimated.....maybe i'll eat my words but this feels like a miss from Hagen and McCaw |
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Post by Phaedrus on May 9, 2024 14:43:00 GMT -5
GW is a spectacular degree with an excellent ROI, no matter your attempt to bring politics into this and your certifiably non-professional opinion. Just a reminder: political discussion is not meant for this board. You want to talk about that, take it to Off The Net. If you're paying sticker price, I'm not sure the ROI is great. But that's just because it's ridiculously expensive. It's a very good degree, but worth paying 5x of your home state's flagship institution? Ehhhhhh. Which brings me back to my last comment. Grad school paid for plus $18k is a pretty sweet deal. Graduate school is not a purely transactional arrangement, which is how most of our society seem to view graduate school. Admittedly there are aspects of it in how the universities structure their degree programs and courses. The intent and purpose for advanced degrees is to train those going through the graduate programs to not just mime back what is presented to them but to think, analogize, draw inference, and pioneer new approaches to solving problems. In short, to teach them to think critically and creatively. To think out of the box, to use a now trite phrase. The reason the recognized top institutions charge so much is that they are paying for the faculty, the faculty that ideally motivate the graduate students to learn to think critically and creatively. That, is worth its weight in gold. Education is not determined solely on a single number, the ROI. That is just trading the reputation of the school for higher initial salary. The reason to attend a school that is well known for a given specialty is to be exposed to the thinking and reasoning of the faculty and to acquire and absorb their methods of inquiry and learn to think originally. If the argument is to just get credentials and to translate those credentials for status or a pay raise, you are right, the ROI is not great, the denominator is very high. But, if you take the numerator of the ROI and extend it over a career, the comparison is not close. Those who enter graduate school for solely transactional reasons usually miss out on their future worth because they had missed out on having their intellects challenged and improved by those highly paid faculties. Their numerator does not rise consistently, even though the denominator gives the impression that the entire ratio is to their favor. |
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Post by Blackbelt on May 9, 2024 21:15:04 GMT -5
My guess is you don’t know this coach. I have watched him since he played juniors. This coach knows the game and will be successful wherever he goes. To top it off, Albrecht is a fantastic human. Liberty is lucky to have him and the team will work and play hard for him. |
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