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Post by jcvball22 on May 10, 2024 0:25:44 GMT -5
My guess is you don’t know this coach. I have watched him since he played juniors. This coach knows the game and will be successful wherever he goes. To top it off, Albrecht is a fantastic human. Liberty is lucky to have him and the team will work and play hard for him. Well, that's... certainly one opinion. Not one shared by many that know him or have interacted with him, but maybe they will all be wrong? Best wishes on that. |
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Post by volleyguy on May 10, 2024 1:36:56 GMT -5
My guess is you don’t know this coach. I have watched him since he played juniors. This coach knows the game and will be successful wherever he goes. To top it off, Albrecht is a fantastic human. Liberty is lucky to have him and the team will work and play hard for him. You should pray on that sentiment long and hard if you want it to be fulfilled. |
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Post by statsqueen on May 10, 2024 8:08:44 GMT -5
If you're paying sticker price, I'm not sure the ROI is great. But that's just because it's ridiculously expensive. It's a very good degree, but worth paying 5x of your home state's flagship institution? Ehhhhhh. Which brings me back to my last comment. Grad school paid for plus $18k is a pretty sweet deal. People regularly make this argument about cost of private schools. While the sticker price for GW is high (approx $81k), the average cost after aid and merit scholarship is $26k, in line with a state school. While there will always be a certain percentage of the students that are paying full-price, that number is smaller than you think. Private schools have generally larger endowments that are earmarked for student financial aid (vs public schools, where that often isn't the case). State schools only accept the FAFSA form to determine need-based aid, which relies heavily on gross income without taking into account cost of living differences across the country. Whereas private schools have additional financial aid paperwork (like the CSS profile) that allows for further differentiation to help allocate need-based aid more appropriately. College financial aid and costs are not nearly as black-and-white as most people make it out to be. The ROI may have been good last year, but this year is different. Check out these two articles about very real impacts for grads of similar institutions based on this mess. It's not limited to these two schools. GW is sure to inherit a large portion of the fall-out, having students calling for the beheading of its administration. www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/don-t-hire-harvard-grads-the-blacklist-circulating-on-wall-street/ar-AA1i9pINwww.msn.com/en-us/news/other/business-owners-refuse-to-hire-columbia-grads-after-pro-palestinian-protest/ar-AA1nSkcFThere's a lot of precedent for this type of action, including job offers being rescinded. I'm curious how this might impact recruiting at certain institutions, but the main point here is applicant pool for a qualified GA candidate probably isn't going to be what it would have been before. Certainly a lot of qualified candidates are holding themselves out of consideration and/or applying elsewhere. Maybe this is the chance for a lesser-qualified person to fill an otherwise unattainable role. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/18/student-palestine-letter-harvard-columbia-us-law-firm-jobs-revokedIn terms of ROI for the institution before all of this... for undergrads the average starting salary is just over $63k. Compared to the national average college grad ($50-55) that seems like a significant bump, and maybe worth it depending on how much more relative debt a particular student would go into to obtain the degree. Starting salary is predictive of salary over the entire career. To really compare though, one would have to go school-by-school; subject-by-subject to assess. Again, all of that was BEFORE employers are actively boycotting graduates of certain schools, which makes those degrees less marketable and will likely reduce the starting salary advantage considerably. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 10, 2024 8:33:39 GMT -5
People regularly make this argument about cost of private schools. While the sticker price for GW is high (approx $81k), the average cost after aid and merit scholarship is $26k, in line with a state school. While there will always be a certain percentage of the students that are paying full-price, that number is smaller than you think. Private schools have generally larger endowments that are earmarked for student financial aid (vs public schools, where that often isn't the case). State schools only accept the FAFSA form to determine need-based aid, which relies heavily on gross income without taking into account cost of living differences across the country. Whereas private schools have additional financial aid paperwork (like the CSS profile) that allows for further differentiation to help allocate need-based aid more appropriately. College financial aid and costs are not nearly as black-and-white as most people make it out to be. The ROI may have been good last year, but this year is different. Check out these two articles about very real impacts for grads of similar institutions based on this mess. It's not limited to these two schools. GW is sure to inherit a large portion of the fall-out, having students calling for the beheading of its administration. www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/don-t-hire-harvard-grads-the-blacklist-circulating-on-wall-street/ar-AA1i9pINwww.msn.com/en-us/news/other/business-owners-refuse-to-hire-columbia-grads-after-pro-palestinian-protest/ar-AA1nSkcFThere's a lot of precedent for this type of action, including job offers being rescinded. I'm curious how this might impact recruiting at certain institutions, but the main point here is applicant pool for a qualified GA candidate probably isn't going to be what it would have been before. Certainly a lot of qualified candidates are holding themselves out of consideration and/or applying elsewhere. Maybe this is the chance for a lesser-qualified person to fill an otherwise unattainable role. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/18/student-palestine-letter-harvard-columbia-us-law-firm-jobs-revokedIn terms of ROI for the institution before all of this... for undergrads the average starting salary is just over $63k. Compared to the national average college grad ($50-55) that seems like a significant bump, and maybe worth it depending on how much more relative debt a particular student would go into to obtain the degree. Starting salary is predictive of salary over the entire career. To really compare though, one would have to go school-by-school; subject-by-subject to assess. Again, all of that was BEFORE employers are actively boycotting graduates of certain schools, which makes those degrees less marketable and will likely reduce the starting salary advantage considerably. L and I can't stress this enough O L |
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Post by vbnerd on May 10, 2024 9:28:03 GMT -5
People regularly make this argument about cost of private schools. While the sticker price for GW is high (approx $81k), the average cost after aid and merit scholarship is $26k, in line with a state school. While there will always be a certain percentage of the students that are paying full-price, that number is smaller than you think. Private schools have generally larger endowments that are earmarked for student financial aid (vs public schools, where that often isn't the case). State schools only accept the FAFSA form to determine need-based aid, which relies heavily on gross income without taking into account cost of living differences across the country. Whereas private schools have additional financial aid paperwork (like the CSS profile) that allows for further differentiation to help allocate need-based aid more appropriately. College financial aid and costs are not nearly as black-and-white as most people make it out to be. the main point here is applicant pool for a qualified GA candidate probably isn't going to be what it would have been before. I'll just point out that staff positions most often go to people the coaching staff know, or friends of people the coaching staff know, and jobs are posted because of legal or other requirements, not to unearth undiscovered talent. The number or relative strength of the pool of people who are not getting hired is simply not important. And on the off chance GW (or whoever) really is reading the applications, with FAFSA so screwed up this year many people simply are not in a position to turn down funding, whether that is from an athletic GA or an Ivy League endowment. |
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Post by statsqueen on May 10, 2024 9:42:55 GMT -5
the main point here is applicant pool for a qualified GA candidate probably isn't going to be what it would have been before. I'll just point out that staff positions most often go to people the coaching staff know, or friends of people the coaching staff know, and jobs are posted because of legal or other requirements, not to unearth undiscovered talent. The number or relative strength of the pool of people who are not getting hired is simply not important. And on the off chance GW (or whoever) really is reading the applications, with FAFSA so screwed up this year many people simply are not in a position to turn down funding, whether that is from an athletic GA or an Ivy League endowment. On point 1: This might be the case at many institutions, but not all. Least of all for GA and DOVO positions. AND if there is even a hint that this is true at any sort of public institution it could lead to a lawsuit that requires investigation and ties up the hiring processes for many months. GW is not a public institution, fair. BUT if they knew who they were going to hire, I doubt they would've posted to VT themselves, which they did. They are clearly trying to find someone. On point 2: This always matters. Your friend might not be the best, and if you find someone too good to pass up any good admin (which, again, not always there...) will insist on that better person being hired. In any case, why post to VT if they know who they're going to hire? That's ridiculous. On point 3: You're assuming that attending grad school at all is the only option. There are a LOT of people who could choose to work for a year in a different field, maybe remain in current roles, and pay down student loan debt or build savings, rather than jumping into a situation like the one at GW or any other GA situation. |
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Post by jcvball22 on May 10, 2024 10:21:07 GMT -5
People regularly make this argument about cost of private schools. While the sticker price for GW is high (approx $81k), the average cost after aid and merit scholarship is $26k, in line with a state school. While there will always be a certain percentage of the students that are paying full-price, that number is smaller than you think. Private schools have generally larger endowments that are earmarked for student financial aid (vs public schools, where that often isn't the case). State schools only accept the FAFSA form to determine need-based aid, which relies heavily on gross income without taking into account cost of living differences across the country. Whereas private schools have additional financial aid paperwork (like the CSS profile) that allows for further differentiation to help allocate need-based aid more appropriately. College financial aid and costs are not nearly as black-and-white as most people make it out to be. The ROI may have been good last year, but this year is different. Check out these two articles about very real impacts for grads of similar institutions based on this mess. It's not limited to these two schools. GW is sure to inherit a large portion of the fall-out, having students calling for the beheading of its administration. www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/don-t-hire-harvard-grads-the-blacklist-circulating-on-wall-street/ar-AA1i9pINwww.msn.com/en-us/news/other/business-owners-refuse-to-hire-columbia-grads-after-pro-palestinian-protest/ar-AA1nSkcFThere's a lot of precedent for this type of action, including job offers being rescinded. I'm curious how this might impact recruiting at certain institutions, but the main point here is applicant pool for a qualified GA candidate probably isn't going to be what it would have been before. Certainly a lot of qualified candidates are holding themselves out of consideration and/or applying elsewhere. Maybe this is the chance for a lesser-qualified person to fill an otherwise unattainable role. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/18/student-palestine-letter-harvard-columbia-us-law-firm-jobs-revokedIn terms of ROI for the institution before all of this... for undergrads the average starting salary is just over $63k. Compared to the national average college grad ($50-55) that seems like a significant bump, and maybe worth it depending on how much more relative debt a particular student would go into to obtain the degree. Starting salary is predictive of salary over the entire career. To really compare though, one would have to go school-by-school; subject-by-subject to assess. Again, all of that was BEFORE employers are actively boycotting graduates of certain schools, which makes those degrees less marketable and will likely reduce the starting salary advantage considerably. You seem to be dying to make an only-tangentially related and extremely thinly veiled argument (that still has nothing to do with this Jobs thread) so you can share your thoughts on student protests. You're trying way too hard. Take it to Off The Net. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 10, 2024 10:32:03 GMT -5
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Post by jcvball22 on May 10, 2024 10:35:05 GMT -5
I haven't ventured to that side of the board in a while. I'm sure it's as ridiculous as ever. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 10, 2024 10:35:56 GMT -5
I haven't ventured to that side of the board in a while. I'm sure it's as ridiculous as ever. Worse, actually. |
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Post by statsqueen on May 10, 2024 10:55:21 GMT -5
The ROI may have been good last year, but this year is different. Check out these two articles about very real impacts for grads of similar institutions based on this mess. It's not limited to these two schools. GW is sure to inherit a large portion of the fall-out, having students calling for the beheading of its administration. www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/don-t-hire-harvard-grads-the-blacklist-circulating-on-wall-street/ar-AA1i9pINwww.msn.com/en-us/news/other/business-owners-refuse-to-hire-columbia-grads-after-pro-palestinian-protest/ar-AA1nSkcFThere's a lot of precedent for this type of action, including job offers being rescinded. I'm curious how this might impact recruiting at certain institutions, but the main point here is applicant pool for a qualified GA candidate probably isn't going to be what it would have been before. Certainly a lot of qualified candidates are holding themselves out of consideration and/or applying elsewhere. Maybe this is the chance for a lesser-qualified person to fill an otherwise unattainable role. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/18/student-palestine-letter-harvard-columbia-us-law-firm-jobs-revokedIn terms of ROI for the institution before all of this... for undergrads the average starting salary is just over $63k. Compared to the national average college grad ($50-55) that seems like a significant bump, and maybe worth it depending on how much more relative debt a particular student would go into to obtain the degree. Starting salary is predictive of salary over the entire career. To really compare though, one would have to go school-by-school; subject-by-subject to assess. Again, all of that was BEFORE employers are actively boycotting graduates of certain schools, which makes those degrees less marketable and will likely reduce the starting salary advantage considerably. You seem to be dying to make an only-tangentially related and extremely thinly veiled argument (that still has nothing to do with this Jobs thread) so you can share your thoughts on student protests. You're trying way too hard. Take it to Off The Net. This is directly related to the GW GA job.  |
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Post by hangonsloopy on May 10, 2024 11:12:10 GMT -5
You seem to be dying to make an only-tangentially related and extremely thinly veiled argument (that still has nothing to do with this Jobs thread) so you can share your thoughts on student protests. You're trying way too hard. Take it to Off The Net. This is directly related to the GW GA job. We get it, you're not going to apply for the job because you don't like student protests and think Ivy League and other high academic institutions' grads won't find a job. I'm sure GW will survive and find an alternative. |
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Post by statsqueen on May 10, 2024 11:22:12 GMT -5
This is directly related to the GW GA job. We get it, you're not going to apply for the job because you don't like student protests and think Ivy League and other high academic institutions' grads won't find a job. I'm sure GW will survive and find an alternative. Lol I'm WAY overqualified to be thinking about applying for a GA job myself. I'm honestly just curious about who the heck would apply in this climate, and it's a little worrisome for a staff that seems to work really hard. Not a great time to be looking for help at that particular institution. |
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Post by jcvball22 on May 10, 2024 11:24:36 GMT -5
You seem to be dying to make an only-tangentially related and extremely thinly veiled argument (that still has nothing to do with this Jobs thread) so you can share your thoughts on student protests. You're trying way too hard. Take it to Off The Net. This is directly related to the GW GA job. It’s not. But you can keep trying! It’s cute. |
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Post by jcvball22 on May 10, 2024 11:30:47 GMT -5
I haven't ventured to that side of the board in a while. I'm sure it's as ridiculous as ever. Worse, actually. Didn’t even think that was possible |
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