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Post by eotexas5 on Aug 13, 2024 15:15:43 GMT -5
My problem with that post is that it’s basically making the argument that a priority for the college game should be preparing players for international play, which I don’t agree with. There’s also a subtext that the USA is at a disadvantage because they play with way more substitutions than international rules allow. And yet they just won the silver after winning the gold in Tokyo. Italy pretty much beat everyone they faced like a rented mule in these games. They also have the healthiest and most robust professional league in the world. To me the healthiest outlook is to focus on how well the USA team performed, tip our cap to Italy for having the best team by far and earning their gold medal, and understand that other countries place a greater priority on the professional ranks in some sports than the USA - volleyball being one of them. I’ll also say that the most exciting part of a volleyball match for me are long rallies. There are many advantages to more substitutions - more participation from more players, more opportunities for shorter players, the ability to implement different systems that wouldn’t be available with fewer substitutions. There are plenty of disadvantages, too, namely the lessened focus on developing 6 rotation players, but for me the trade off is well worth it. Given the context, it almost feels like Pettit is arguing we should reduce the number of substitutions in college so we have a better chance at winning the gold medal, which feels pretty ludicrous. We should implement the rule set that makes the most sense for women’s collegiate volleyball. To me there’s no question the 15 substitution rule is better for growing the game at the collegiate level, therefore it shouldn’t be changed. I disagree, I believe we should lower the number of subs in each match. Additionally, I think the NCAA should adopt the international Mikasa ball as well. I would also like to see the college game allow for pursuit, but that's just my opinion. |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 13, 2024 15:21:07 GMT -5
My problem with that post is that it’s basically making the argument that a priority for the college game should be preparing players for international play, which I don’t agree with. There’s also a subtext that the USA is at a disadvantage because they play with way more substitutions than international rules allow. And yet they just won the silver after winning the gold in Tokyo. Italy pretty much beat everyone they faced like a rented mule in these games. They also have the healthiest and most robust professional league in the world. To me the healthiest outlook is to focus on how well the USA team performed, tip our cap to Italy for having the best team by far and earning their gold medal, and understand that other countries place a greater priority on the professional ranks in some sports than the USA - volleyball being one of them. I’ll also say that the most exciting part of a volleyball match for me are long rallies. There are many advantages to more substitutions - more participation from more players, more opportunities for shorter players, the ability to implement different systems that wouldn’t be available with fewer substitutions. There are plenty of disadvantages, too, namely the lessened focus on developing 6 rotation players, but for me the trade off is well worth it. Given the context, it almost feels like Pettit is arguing we should reduce the number of substitutions in college so we have a better chance at winning the gold medal, which feels pretty ludicrous. We should implement the rule set that makes the most sense for women’s collegiate volleyball. To me there’s no question the 15 substitution rule is better for growing the game at the collegiate level, therefore it shouldn’t be changed. I disagree, I believe we should lower the number of subs in each match. Additionally, I think the NCAA should adopt the international Mikasa ball as well. I would also like to see the college game allow for pursuit, but that's just my opinion. Is there any explanation for the different balls? I know Texas players said they had some adjustments to make to the Nike ball at Long Beach last year, but I don’t know enough to understand what any differences would be or how they’d impact the players. I think there’s a distinct difference between people who love to follow the international game and those who don’t. Anyone who is passionate about professional leagues overseas would love to see the rules changed. I enjoy the college version much more. I think international volleyball should change to fit USA college rules more. Then maybe I might actually enjoy watching it. |
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Post by eotexas5 on Aug 13, 2024 15:26:38 GMT -5
I disagree, I believe we should lower the number of subs in each match. Additionally, I think the NCAA should adopt the international Mikasa ball as well. I would also like to see the college game allow for pursuit, but that's just my opinion. Is there any explanation for the different balls? I know Texas players said they had some adjustments to make to the Nike ball at Long Beach last year, but I don’t know enough to understand what any differences would be or how they’d impact the players. I think there’s a distinct difference between people who love to follow the international game and those who don’t. Anyone who is passionate about professional leagues overseas would love to see the rules changed. I enjoy the college version much more. I think international volleyball should change to fit USA college rules more. Then maybe I might actually enjoy watching it. I think it would be nice to have one consistent ball for the entire league to use. I think it's ultimately a balance, a fine one. We definitely want more kids playing volleyball, but at the same time we also would like more quality volleyball. I think the argument regarding subs is that it kinda forces the players to not only be a good hitter, but also a good passer. Knowing that you can simply rely on a DS only limits the player's ability to really expand their tool belt. |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 13, 2024 15:38:53 GMT -5
Is there any explanation for the different balls? I know Texas players said they had some adjustments to make to the Nike ball at Long Beach last year, but I don’t know enough to understand what any differences would be or how they’d impact the players. I think there’s a distinct difference between people who love to follow the international game and those who don’t. Anyone who is passionate about professional leagues overseas would love to see the rules changed. I enjoy the college version much more. I think international volleyball should change to fit USA college rules more. Then maybe I might actually enjoy watching it. I think it would be nice to have one consistent ball for the entire league to use. I think it's ultimately a balance, a fine one. We definitely want more kids playing volleyball, but at the same time we also would like more quality volleyball. I think the argument regarding subs is that it kinda forces the players to not only be a good hitter, but also a good passer. Knowing that you can simply rely on a DS only limits the player's ability to really expand their tool belt. I don’t find that necessarily compelling to watch, though. I like the defensive specialists subbing in. I think it creates more story lines to follow, longer rallies, and allows for hyper aggressive players to be successful in the front court even when they’re liabilities defensively. Which isn’t to say you’re wrong. I just find that many “purists” want to see more well rounded volleyball whereas I want to see volleyball that’s more exciting to watch. I think collegiate volleyball in the US aspires in that direction, and I think they’re succeeding. Going to fewer substitutions feels like going backwards to me. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Aug 13, 2024 15:39:38 GMT -5
My problem with that post is that it’s basically making the argument that a priority for the college game should be preparing players for international play, which I don’t agree with. There’s also a subtext that the USA is at a disadvantage because they play with way more substitutions than international rules allow. And yet they just won the silver after winning the gold in Tokyo. Italy pretty much beat everyone they faced like a rented mule in these games. They also have the healthiest and most robust professional league in the world. To me the healthiest outlook is to focus on how well the USA team performed, tip our cap to Italy for having the best team by far and earning their gold medal, and understand that other countries place a greater priority on the professional ranks in some sports than the USA - volleyball being one of them. I’ll also say that the most exciting part of a volleyball match for me are long rallies. There are many advantages to more substitutions - more participation from more players, more opportunities for shorter players, the ability to implement different systems that wouldn’t be available with fewer substitutions. There are plenty of disadvantages, too, namely the lessened focus on developing 6 rotation players, but for me the trade off is well worth it. Given the context, it almost feels like Pettit is arguing we should reduce the number of substitutions in college so we have a better chance at winning the gold medal, which feels pretty ludicrous. We should implement the rule set that makes the most sense for women’s collegiate volleyball. To me there’s no question the 15 substitution rule is better for growing the game at the collegiate level, therefore it shouldn’t be changed. Additionally, I think the NCAA should adopt the international Mikasa ball as well. I would also like to see the college game allow for pursuit, but that's just my opinion. I don't, especially if you are trying to grow the game. I'm old enough to have played under the old sideout-scoring / 6 subs / no libero rules back in the 90s. There was no future in the sport for shorter players unless you were Liane Sato super-sub good (which I assuredly was not) |
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Post by Volleyhorns on Aug 13, 2024 16:05:47 GMT -5
I’m glad to see Whitney taking swings in that practice pictures, that should mean nothing is wrong and they are just getting her back into playing after her baby not waiting on an injury!
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Post by texannexile on Aug 13, 2024 16:11:56 GMT -5
I disagree, I believe we should lower the number of subs in each match. Additionally, I think the NCAA should adopt the international Mikasa ball as well. I would also like to see the college game allow for pursuit, but that's just my opinion. I don't, especially if you are trying to grow the game. I'm old enough to have played under the old sideout-scoring / 6 subs / no libero rules back in the 90s. There was no future in the sport for shorter players unless you were Liane Sato super-sub good (which I assuredly was not) The old side out scoring was painful. From a casual fans perspective, the college game is much more entertaining. The men and women were much the same with the Olympic version and appeared to be all power with little finesse. |
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Post by biodogtexas on Aug 13, 2024 16:44:01 GMT -5
Are they allowed to do that? As I understand it, if the SEC Network doesn't exercise it's rights to televise a UT sporting event, LHN may do so. The SEC now owns all the rights to everything. If it's not on the network cable channel it'll be streaming through SECN+ on the ESPN app. The only thing we'll ever get on LHN is something the University still owns the rights too. So the qurestions are what does the university still own and what do they actually want broadcast? They no longer own any live events of official competition. That probably only leaves scrimmages and fall ball / spring games as the only events they can show. It's maybe possible that they could broadcast those, but do any of the coaches actually want those shown? Does JE want the UTSA exhibition online? Unlikely. Does Mike White, Schloss, RT, or Vic want their preseason games streamed? I won't say there will "never" be any games or events shown, because there are sports like Rowing, Beach Volleyball, and the Texas Relays that aren't SEC Sponsored and rarely televised to begin with. Those might slip through the cracks. But every SEC sponsored sport will always be aired through one of the various SEC Network avenues going forward if at all. |
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Post by hookem24 on Aug 13, 2024 16:45:38 GMT -5
i haven’t read any of this thread but i’m SO EXCITED FOR WHITNEY TO COMPETE FOR A SPOT ON THE OUTSIDE
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Post by stevehorn on Aug 13, 2024 16:54:38 GMT -5
As I understand it, if the SEC Network doesn't exercise it's rights to televise a UT sporting event, LHN may do so. The SEC now owns all the rights to everything. If it's not on the network cable channel it'll be streaming through SECN+ on the ESPN app. The only thing we'll ever get on LHN is something the University still owns the rights too. That's unlikely to include any live events of official competition. That probably only leaves scrimmages and fall ball / spring games. I won't say "never' to anything else becasue there are sports like Rowing and Beach Volleyball that aren't SEC Sponsored and rarely televised to begin with. Those might slip through the cracks. But every SEC sponsored sport will always be aired through one of the various SEC Network avenues going forward. Not sure it matters whether the sport is SEC sponsored. I believe technically what the SEC Network owns is the Tier 3 rights of every school in the conference. If that is accurate, then it would also own the rights to the non-SEC sponsored sport events where the rights belong to a conference school. |
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Post by Volleyhorns on Aug 13, 2024 17:05:05 GMT -5
i haven’t read any of this thread but i’m SO EXCITED FOR WHITNEY TO COMPETE FOR A SPOT ON THE OUTSIDE That’s what I’m saying she was so underrated at Nebraska and she could be our next super star! |
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Post by hgc159 on Aug 13, 2024 17:05:06 GMT -5
As I understand it, if the SEC Network doesn't exercise it's rights to televise a UT sporting event, LHN may do so. The SEC now owns all the rights to everything. If it's not on the network cable channel it'll be streaming through SECN+ on the ESPN app. The only thing we'll ever get on LHN is something the University still owns the rights too. That's unlikely to include any live events of official competition. That probably only leaves scrimmages and fall ball / spring games. I won't say "never' to anything else becasue there are sports like Rowing and Beach Volleyball that aren't SEC Sponsored and rarely televised to begin with. Those might slip through the cracks. But every SEC sponsored sport will always be aired through one of the various SEC Network avenues going forward. Boooo! This type of thing is exactly why I didn't want to join the $EC. |
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Post by katn on Aug 13, 2024 17:06:12 GMT -5
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Post by slxpress on Aug 13, 2024 17:11:05 GMT -5
The SEC now owns all the rights to everything. If it's not on the network cable channel it'll be streaming through SECN+ on the ESPN app. The only thing we'll ever get on LHN is something the University still owns the rights too. That's unlikely to include any live events of official competition. That probably only leaves scrimmages and fall ball / spring games. I won't say "never' to anything else becasue there are sports like Rowing and Beach Volleyball that aren't SEC Sponsored and rarely televised to begin with. Those might slip through the cracks. But every SEC sponsored sport will always be aired through one of the various SEC Network avenues going forward. Boooo! This type of thing is exactly why I didn't want to join the $EC. We had to join either the SEC or the Big 10 or we risked losing relevancy and having a voice in the future of collegiate athletics. Giving up LHN was a sacrifice, but a needed one given where college athletics is heading. |
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Post by katn on Aug 13, 2024 17:12:00 GMT -5
I’m glad to see Whitney taking swings in that practice pictures, that should mean nothing is wrong and they are just getting her back into playing after her baby not waiting on an injury! she was injured & had shoulder surgery a while back...she's just starting to practice with the team...we don't know anything yet |
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