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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 1, 2023 23:58:52 GMT -5
lmk when you educate yourself on Baylor’s anti-LGBT history. This is a very sad take, IMO. Gay Baylor alum here! While surely Baylor does not have a great track record of supporting the LGBTQ+ population historically, the notion that Baylor is completely anti-gay is just not correct anymore. Baylor administration made a big move to charter its first LGBTQ+ student organization recently, a decision that was sure to have backlash from some stakeholders. It may be easy to deem that to be a small step, but it is a mark of progress that aligns with the current leadership of the institution. While that org wasn't around while I was at Baylor, my experience is far from what others suggest it to be from the outside. Despite being a queer, non-religious, person of color, at a religious PWI, I never felt that I didn't belong. I understand that my experience was not achievable for many students in Baylor's past, which is to emphasize that there has been progress that has made it more possible for queer students to be successful there. I had many affirming faculty members who continue to outwardly display their support of LGBTQ students in their classrooms at Baylor. He'll never love you |
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Post by horns1 on Dec 2, 2023 0:00:38 GMT -5
Congrats to a future rival in the SEC!  |
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Post by Kearney Kingston on Dec 2, 2023 0:02:52 GMT -5
Kentucky has truly resurrected their season after the non-conference season. It’s nice to be in the SEC.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 2, 2023 0:15:24 GMT -5
Kentucky has truly resurrected their season after the non-conference season. It’s nice to be in the SEC. Be careful using the word resurrected around here. |
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Post by donut on Dec 2, 2023 2:33:45 GMT -5
lmk when you educate yourself on Baylor’s anti-LGBT history. This is a very sad take, IMO. You do realize the Bible describes the act as sinful. So yes, it’s a stance by people who believe in the Bible. ^ case in point thnx |
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Post by donut on Dec 2, 2023 2:35:06 GMT -5
Kentucky has truly resurrected their season after the non-conference season. It’s nice to be in the SEC. Be careful using the word resurrected around here. Being flippant like this is isn’t the serve you think it is. |
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Post by donut on Dec 2, 2023 2:49:13 GMT -5
lmk when you educate yourself on Baylor’s anti-LGBT history. This is a very sad take, IMO. Gay Baylor alum here! While surely Baylor does not have a great track record of supporting the LGBTQ+ population historically, the notion that Baylor is completely anti-gay is just not correct anymore. Baylor administration made a big move to charter its first LGBTQ+ student organization recently, a decision that was sure to have backlash from some stakeholders. It may be easy to deem that to be a small step, but it is a mark of progress that aligns with the current leadership of the institution. While that org wasn't around while I was at Baylor, my experience is far from what others suggest it to be from the outside. Despite being a queer, non-religious, person of color, at a religious PWI, I never felt that I didn't belong. I understand that my experience was not achievable for many students in Baylor's past, which is to emphasize that there has been progress that has made it more possible for queer students to be successful there. I had many affirming faculty members who continue to outwardly display their support of LGBTQ students in their classrooms at Baylor. Do you think the standard is “not completely anti-gay?” That’s… not good. But regardless, still completely anti-gay. www.baylor.edu/risk/doc.php/343044.pdfI grew up in central Texas and Baylor has f*cked up many queer kids. So forgive me for hating hollow, seemingly desperate, Baylor prayer circles viewers didn’t sign up for watching an NCAA tournament match at a public institution. |
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 2, 2023 3:44:22 GMT -5
Gay Baylor alum here! While surely Baylor does not have a great track record of supporting the LGBTQ+ population historically, the notion that Baylor is completely anti-gay is just not correct anymore. Baylor administration made a big move to charter its first LGBTQ+ student organization recently, a decision that was sure to have backlash from some stakeholders. It may be easy to deem that to be a small step, but it is a mark of progress that aligns with the current leadership of the institution. While that org wasn't around while I was at Baylor, my experience is far from what others suggest it to be from the outside. Despite being a queer, non-religious, person of color, at a religious PWI, I never felt that I didn't belong. I understand that my experience was not achievable for many students in Baylor's past, which is to emphasize that there has been progress that has made it more possible for queer students to be successful there. I had many affirming faculty members who continue to outwardly display their support of LGBTQ students in their classrooms at Baylor. Do you think the standard is “not completely anti-gay?” That’s… not good. But regardless, still completely anti-gay. www.baylor.edu/risk/doc.php/343044.pdfI grew up in central Texas and Baylor has f*cked up many queer kids. So forgive me for hating hollow, seemingly desperate, Baylor prayer circles viewers didn’t sign up for watching an NCAA tournament match at a public institution. Baylor is a private, Christian University so by their faith, they wouldn't support homosexuality. The further Baylor goes into supporting LGBTQ+ agendas, the further they move away from their faith. This doesn't mean I think they shouldn't accept gay students but why would a devoutly gay student want to attend a Christian university if they don't believe in what the Bible stands for? Don't you think that's like asking for an experience that doesn't align with who students think they are? Personally, I have no problem with gay people. People are much more than their sexual preference. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 2, 2023 3:55:48 GMT -5
Gay Baylor alum here! While surely Baylor does not have a great track record of supporting the LGBTQ+ population historically, the notion that Baylor is completely anti-gay is just not correct anymore. Baylor administration made a big move to charter its first LGBTQ+ student organization recently, a decision that was sure to have backlash from some stakeholders. It may be easy to deem that to be a small step, but it is a mark of progress that aligns with the current leadership of the institution. While that org wasn't around while I was at Baylor, my experience is far from what others suggest it to be from the outside. Despite being a queer, non-religious, person of color, at a religious PWI, I never felt that I didn't belong. I understand that my experience was not achievable for many students in Baylor's past, which is to emphasize that there has been progress that has made it more possible for queer students to be successful there. I had many affirming faculty members who continue to outwardly display their support of LGBTQ students in their classrooms at Baylor. I grew up in central Texas and Baylor has f*cked up many queer kids. So forgive me for hating hollow, seemingly desperate, Baylor prayer circles viewers didn’t sign up for watching an NCAA tournament match at a public institution. I have no dog in this fight but the match was over lol, couldn't you just... change the channel? no one signs up for commercials either but we all still get them lol. I also think it's unfair to put your opinion of the university as a whole onto the players themselves. im agnostic for what its worth, but just because you have issue with the university doesnt mean the volleyball teams specific prayer circle is hollow or desperate. you may think that of Baylor in general - but I just dont see what the volleyball team did wrong here |
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Post by volleydoc2 on Dec 2, 2023 5:24:30 GMT -5
Do you think the standard is “not completely anti-gay?” That’s… not good. But regardless, still completely anti-gay. www.baylor.edu/risk/doc.php/343044.pdfI grew up in central Texas and Baylor has f*cked up many queer kids. So forgive me for hating hollow, seemingly desperate, Baylor prayer circles viewers didn’t sign up for watching an NCAA tournament match at a public institution. Baylor is a private, Christian University so by their faith, they wouldn't support homosexuality. The further Baylor goes into supporting LGBTQ+ agendas, the further they move away from their faith. This doesn't mean I don't think they shouldn't accept gay students but why would a devoutly gay student want to attend a Christian university if they don't believe in what the Bible stands for? Don't you think that's like asking for an experience that doesn't align with who students think they are? Personally, I have no problem with gay people. People are much more than their sexual preference. Nah, Karen I was starting to like you. Don’t do this to meeee 😭 Not the “why would the oppressed want to mingle with the oppressor” argument, when Baylor and its grad schools are quite toppy top in academic excellence…Bestieee, read it again and replace with the history of ra€ism to see how slippery this slope is. Kare bear 😭 and houstonbear, babes, the devil doesn’t need an advocate. Glad it worked out for you, though! 💪🏿 |
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 2, 2023 5:35:41 GMT -5
Baylor is a private, Christian University so by their faith, they wouldn't support homosexuality. The further Baylor goes into supporting LGBTQ+ agendas, the further they move away from their faith. This doesn't mean I don't think they shouldn't accept gay students but why would a devoutly gay student want to attend a Christian university if they don't believe in what the Bible stands for? Don't you think that's like asking for an experience that doesn't align with who students think they are? Personally, I have no problem with gay people. People are much more than their sexual preference. Nah, Karen I was starting to like you. Don’t do this to meeee 😭 Not the “why would the oppressed want to mingle with the oppressor” argument, when Baylor and its grad schools are quite toppy top in academic excellence…Bestieee, read it again and replace with the history of ra€ism to see how slippery this slope is. Kare bear 😭 and houstonbear, babes, the devil doesn’t need an advocate. Glad it worked out for you, though! 💪🏿 Wait. Racism now? All I have to say is get out of this victim mentality that has kept you imprisoned. You're talking to someone from what's considered a "marginalized" group as a Native Hawaiian. I've been all around the country and no one has ever oppressed me because I wasn't brought up to think like a victim. As humans, we are prejudiced against each other on a number of things that go beyond the color of our skin. I'll say it again, why would someone who doesn't believe in the Bible want to go to a Christian university and then cry about the faith that that Christian university is built on? Would you enter a church and cry about there being no cocktail bar? There are many great "toppy top" academic institutions to choose from. Toughen up and realize that no one will 100% like or agree with you wherever you go in this world "bestie." |
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Post by volleydoc2 on Dec 2, 2023 5:50:58 GMT -5
Nah, Karen I was starting to like you. Don’t do this to meeee 😭 Not the “why would the oppressed want to mingle with the oppressor” argument, when Baylor and its grad schools are quite toppy top in academic excellence…Bestieee, read it again and replace with the history of ra€ism to see how slippery this slope is. Kare bear 😭 and houstonbear, babes, the devil doesn’t need an advocate. Glad it worked out for you, though! 💪🏿 Wait. Racism now? All I have to say is get out of this victim mentality that has kept you imprisoned. You're talking to someone from what's considered a "marginalized" group as a Native Hawaiian. I've been all around the country and no one has ever oppressed me because I wasn't brought up to think like a victim. As humans, we are prejudiced against each other on a number of things that go beyond the color of our skin. I'll say it again, why would someone who doesn't believe in the Bible want to go to a Christian university and then cry about the faith that that Christian university is built on? Would you enter a church and cry about there being no cocktail bar? There are many great "toppy top" academic institutions to choose from. Toughen up and realize that no one will 100% like or agree with you wherever you go in this world "bestie." *I’ll back off on responding to the first two paragraphs* But just wanted to offer the perspective that it’s possible to apply to 10 med schools, and only get into BCM. Turn down the offer and you’ll certainly never see another med school offer as a reapplicant, bc yes they will see your past offers and know u turned them down. Just an example. Where you see a “choice,” many see resignation to a last resort and accepting systemic exclusion. Real talk 😊 |
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 2, 2023 5:57:54 GMT -5
Wait. Racism now? All I have to say is get out of this victim mentality that has kept you imprisoned. You're talking to someone from what's considered a "marginalized" group as a Native Hawaiian. I've been all around the country and no one has ever oppressed me because I wasn't brought up to think like a victim. As humans, we are prejudiced against each other on a number of things that go beyond the color of our skin. I'll say it again, why would someone who doesn't believe in the Bible want to go to a Christian university and then cry about the faith that that Christian university is built on? Would you enter a church and cry about there being no cocktail bar? There are many great "toppy top" academic institutions to choose from. Toughen up and realize that no one will 100% like or agree with you wherever you go in this world "bestie." *I’ll back off on responding to the first two paragraphs* But just wanted to offer the perspective that it’s possible to apply to 10 med schools, and only get into BCM. Turn down the offer and you’ll certainly never see another med school offer as a reapplicant, bc yes they will see your past offers and know u turned them down. Just an example. Where you see a “choice,” many see resignation to a last resort and accepting systemic exclusion. Real talk 😊 You should respond to the first two paragraphs instead of carrying on with your narrative. Okay, so you bring up that hypothetical. Let me be clear that the question I asked (why would a gay student want to go to a Christian school) is mine alone and I do not speak for the school and its admissions office. Now, is there a clause or requirement in Baylor's admissions guidelines that specifically states that gay or people of color cannot apply to be admitted to BCM that would make it systemic? |
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 2, 2023 9:45:16 GMT -5
Gay Baylor alum here! While surely Baylor does not have a great track record of supporting the LGBTQ+ population historically, the notion that Baylor is completely anti-gay is just not correct anymore. Baylor administration made a big move to charter its first LGBTQ+ student organization recently, a decision that was sure to have backlash from some stakeholders. It may be easy to deem that to be a small step, but it is a mark of progress that aligns with the current leadership of the institution. While that org wasn't around while I was at Baylor, my experience is far from what others suggest it to be from the outside. Despite being a queer, non-religious, person of color, at a religious PWI, I never felt that I didn't belong. I understand that my experience was not achievable for many students in Baylor's past, which is to emphasize that there has been progress that has made it more possible for queer students to be successful there. I had many affirming faculty members who continue to outwardly display their support of LGBTQ students in their classrooms at Baylor. Do you think the standard is “not completely anti-gay?” That’s… not good. But regardless, still completely anti-gay. www.baylor.edu/risk/doc.php/343044.pdfI grew up in central Texas and Baylor has f*cked up many queer kids. So forgive me for hating hollow, seemingly desperate, Baylor prayer circles viewers didn’t sign up for watching an NCAA tournament match at a public institution. I don’t know what the standard is for religious schools, because really, I don’t have expectations that they’d do anything. So when I see one that is taking the time to listen to students more and more and are making changes based on student feedback, I can recognize the impact of that. I also can recognize that the historical outward identity of a university and the current culture of a campus don’t always align. And also have a deep understanding of how the political and social systems within higher education have an influence on both of those things. Changing a campus culture is a hard and timely process, but knowing that current leadership has leaned into that process shows that they are actively seeking ways to improve. |
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 2, 2023 9:54:55 GMT -5
Wait. Racism now? All I have to say is get out of this victim mentality that has kept you imprisoned. You're talking to someone from what's considered a "marginalized" group as a Native Hawaiian. I've been all around the country and no one has ever oppressed me because I wasn't brought up to think like a victim. As humans, we are prejudiced against each other on a number of things that go beyond the color of our skin. I'll say it again, why would someone who doesn't believe in the Bible want to go to a Christian university and then cry about the faith that that Christian university is built on? Would you enter a church and cry about there being no cocktail bar? There are many great "toppy top" academic institutions to choose from. Toughen up and realize that no one will 100% like or agree with you wherever you go in this world "bestie." *I’ll back off on responding to the first two paragraphs* But just wanted to offer the perspective that it’s possible to apply to 10 med schools, and only get into BCM. Turn down the offer and you’ll certainly never see another med school offer as a reapplicant, bc yes they will see your past offers and know u turned them down. Just an example. Where you see a “choice,” many see resignation to a last resort and accepting systemic exclusion. Real talk 😊 Baylor College of Medicine is not operated by Baylor University and hasn’t been since 1969. |
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