|
Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 18, 2023 12:52:14 GMT -5
People may like the transfers or not but it’s true. All these players arnt moving around for their education it’s for sports. Like I said colleges are suppose to be about education formost. Just create a semi pro league A semi-pro league where you can also get an education and a degree isn’t the worst thing in the world. Leaving a school so that you can play somewhere else, also isn’t the worst thing either.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 12:54:21 GMT -5
People may like the transfers or not but it’s true. All these players arnt moving around for their education it’s for sports. Like I said colleges are suppose to be about education formost. Just create a semi pro league A semi-pro league where you can also get an education and a degree isn’t the worst thing in the world. Leaving a school so that you can play somewhere else, also isn’t the worst thing either. Everyone always complained when it was the same teams winning all the time. People yelled for wanting more parody. This is gonna create less of it. It’s gonna be the same 5-10 teams every year that are gonna be realistically winning or having great shot to win title This is 100% condensing talent not spreading it out. This is like the nba. Trying to create super teams by stacking all this talent on a handful of teams rather then players pride of trying to lead their own teams their. Let’s just stack all star teams.
|
|
|
Post by BeachbytheBay on Dec 18, 2023 12:59:33 GMT -5
agree, there is definitely more parody
parody is a good thing!
|
|
|
Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 18, 2023 12:59:59 GMT -5
A semi-pro league where you can also get an education and a degree isn’t the worst thing in the world. Leaving a school so that you can play somewhere else, also isn’t the worst thing either. Everyone always complained when it was the same teams winning all the time. People yelled for wanting more parody. This is gonna create less of it. It’s gonna be the same 5-10 teams every year The rich will get richer but I feel like you’re missing some subtleties. Tennessee came within a whisker of beating Texas. Louisville and PITT have developed their programs to an elite level. Other schools are growing and getting better.
|
|
ze202
Sophomore
Posts: 102
|
Post by ze202 on Dec 18, 2023 13:01:11 GMT -5
AFAIK Babic has not committed yet. Is ASU in the running for her? I would think so considering we need a setter and she's from AZ, but I'm not 100% sure. FWIW she did attend the same high school (Corona del Sol) as Mary Shroll.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 13:02:32 GMT -5
Everyone always complained when it was the same teams winning all the time. People yelled for wanting more parody. This is gonna create less of it. It’s gonna be the same 5-10 teams every year The rich will get richer but I feel like you’re missing some subtleties. Tennessee came within a whisker of beating Texas. Louisville and PITT have developed their programs to an elite level. Other schools are growing and getting better. Unless you a fan of a specific team , nobody wants to see the same teams over and over and over and over. Theirs always gonna be outliers in any given time period but it’s a majority the same teams over and over and over. Obviously many of the top players are gonna want to go to top programs but it was limited in recruiting by amount of scholarships and stuff It allowed talent to have to spread out cause a team can only grab a limited amount of players.
|
|
|
Post by mibadger on Dec 18, 2023 13:05:04 GMT -5
This is no longer collegiate sports. They are semi pro sports league. When players can just move around at will and players can be paid it is by all intensive purposes a semi pro league. This allows teams that already get the most recruiting talent to poach from other teams when needed Kids having a choice is a good thing. Getting locked into school or team on a decision that was made when you were 16 or 17 and weren’t on the team or weren’t living there is pretty unfair to student athletes. You truly don’t know if the fit is good or if things live up to what you were sold on until you are there full time. The covid year has caused some issues and that should be going away after another year as most of those kids(other than ones getting a medical redshirt on top of their normal redshirt) exhaust their eligibility. I completely understand why the covid waiver exists and why it overall was a good thing for the student athletes that endured that period but it has created some pretty unique situations. One example would be a kid on the team in fall of 2019(or even 2018 with a medical redshirt)but that redshirted has the same eligibility as a kid that came in for fall of 2021 and has never redshirted.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 13:11:45 GMT -5
This is no longer collegiate sports. They are semi pro sports league. When players can just move around at will and players can be paid it is by all intensive purposes a semi pro league. This allows teams that already get the most recruiting talent to poach from other teams when needed Kids having a choice is a good thing. Getting locked into school or team on a decision that was made when you were 16 or 17 and weren’t on the team or weren’t living there is pretty unfair to student athletes. You truly don’t know if the fit is good or if things live up to what you were sold on until you are there full time. The covid year has caused some issues and that should be going away after another year as most of those kids(other than ones getting a medical redshirt on top of their normal redshirt) exhaust their eligibility. I completely understand why the covid waiver exists and why it overall was a good thing for the student athletes that endured that period but it has created some pretty unique situations. One example would be a kid on the team in fall of 2019(or even 2018 with a medical redshirt)but that redshirted has the same eligibility as a kid that came in for fall of 2021 and has never redshirted. A kid isn’t forced to commit anywhere. It’s a choice. Theirs always a choice. I’m sick of not holding anyone accountable for their actions. You make it sound like they were forced to commit at 16-17. Nobody is forced at anything without that persons consent. Could there be consequences to any decision , sure but I’m tired of this argument like kids didn’t have a choice. Be more thorough in the process and make it about education first not sport which is what colleges are suppose to be about
|
|
trojansc
Legend
All-VolleyTalk 1st Team (2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017), All-VolleyTalk 2nd Team (2016), 2021, 2019 Fantasy League Champion, 2020 Fantasy League Runner Up, 2022 2nd Runner Up
Posts: 30,551
|
Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 13:13:08 GMT -5
People always complain they want more balance and competitiveness but all this is gonna lead to is a more top heavy league. The talent is gonna become more concentrated then spread out more for certain sports ( meaning the ones that matter ( most revenue ) basketball and football) people will start going with whoever pays them the most Tell that to San Diego. Mid-majors will easily take a portal super-team to make the Final Four, even if it means they miss out on the tournament next year.
|
|
trojansc
Legend
All-VolleyTalk 1st Team (2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017), All-VolleyTalk 2nd Team (2016), 2021, 2019 Fantasy League Champion, 2020 Fantasy League Runner Up, 2022 2nd Runner Up
Posts: 30,551
|
Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 13:15:14 GMT -5
A kid isn’t forced to commit anywhere. It’s a choice. Theirs always a choice. I’m sick of not holding anyone accountable for their actions. You make it sound like they were forced to commit at 16-17. Nobody is forced at anything without that persons consent. Could there be consequences to any decision , sure but I’m tired of this argument like kids didn’t have a choice. What does it mean to be held 'accountable'? Forcing someone to stay in a place they don't want to be in?
|
|
|
Post by skolgophers on Dec 18, 2023 13:17:48 GMT -5
In other news, it sounds like Landfair may have already made a decision based on her recent instagram story. Unless, of course, she’s just planning on heading somewhere this spring without knowing for sure where that will be.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 13:17:58 GMT -5
A kid isn’t forced to commit anywhere. It’s a choice. Theirs always a choice. I’m sick of not holding anyone accountable for their actions. You make it sound like they were forced to commit at 16-17. Nobody is forced at anything without that persons consent. Could there be consequences to any decision , sure but I’m tired of this argument like kids didn’t have a choice. What does it mean to be held 'accountable'? Forcing someone to stay in a place they don't want to be in? . I’m saying the kids did have the intial choice and trying to claim now that kids should have a choice like they didn’t intially. What we are doing is allowing kids to not be held accountable and live up to the contracts they signed. They committed to something that they then choose not to fulfill. Why even have signings if no one has to fulfill what they essentially promised in signing
|
|
trojansc
Legend
All-VolleyTalk 1st Team (2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017), All-VolleyTalk 2nd Team (2016), 2021, 2019 Fantasy League Champion, 2020 Fantasy League Runner Up, 2022 2nd Runner Up
Posts: 30,551
|
Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 13:20:01 GMT -5
What does it mean to be held 'accountable'? Forcing someone to stay in a place they don't want to be in? . I’m saying the kids did have the intial choice and trying to claim now that kids should have a choice like they didn’t intially. What we are doing is allowing kids to not be held accountable and live up to the contracts they signed. They committed to something that they then choose not to fulfill They signed a contract? Do you know what that even means? So it's not even completely about education - it's about forcing kids to stay where they commit to. Got it!
|
|
|
Post by vbnerd on Dec 18, 2023 13:20:33 GMT -5
1:05 pm in the portal... un-bingo.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 13:21:26 GMT -5
. I’m saying the kids did have the intial choice and trying to claim now that kids should have a choice like they didn’t intially. What we are doing is allowing kids to not be held accountable and live up to the contracts they signed. They committed to something that they then choose not to fulfill They signed a contract? Do you know what that even means? So it's not even completely about education - it's about forcing kids to stay where they commit to. Got it! You do understand when you sign a contract in anything it’s your promise to fulfill what’s in that contract right. It’s a promise from that individual
|
|