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Post by skolgophers on Dec 18, 2023 13:21:46 GMT -5
1:05 pm in the portal... un-bingo. Who?
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Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 13:23:06 GMT -5
They signed a contract? Do you know what that even means? So it's not even completely about education - it's about forcing kids to stay where they commit to. Got it! You do understand when you sign a contract in anything it’s your promise to fulfill what’s in that contract right So the schools who receive transfers are paying contract buyouts for those players who are transferring because they aren't fulfilling their 'contract'? You're so lost.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 13:25:00 GMT -5
You do understand when you sign a contract in anything it’s your promise to fulfill what’s in that contract right So the schools who receive transfers are paying contract buyouts for those players who are transferring because they aren't fulfilling their 'contract'? You're so lost. Not at all. If you are under scholarship you are breaking the promise you gave to the school when you signed are you not? You are 100% breaking your intial promise no question
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 18, 2023 13:26:28 GMT -5
They signed a contract? Do you know what that even means? So it's not even completely about education - it's about forcing kids to stay where they commit to. Got it! You do understand when you sign a contract in anything it’s your promise to fulfill what’s in that contract right. It’s a promise from that individual So what about coaches who ask/encourage their players to leave their program? Aren’t they also not upholding the “contract.” Also athletes don’t actually have to sign an NLI to play and the NLI is only for one year, so technically once they make it a year, they’ve fulfilled their “contract.”
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Post by vbdiva on Dec 18, 2023 13:28:11 GMT -5
1:05 pm in the portal... un-bingo Sad huh
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Post by vballfreak808 on Dec 18, 2023 13:28:17 GMT -5
Since Punzel will most likely hear/post about it soon
Sounds like Ella Wrobel is in the portal
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Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 13:29:02 GMT -5
Not at all. If you are under scholarship you are breaking the promise you gave to the school when you signed are you not? I see you switched from contract to promise. Much better. Are coaches allowed to pull scholarships even if you made a 'promise' to that school? Coaches can also not keep their end of the 'promise'. There are so many potential reasons to transfer and limiting that is not good.
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Post by skolgophers on Dec 18, 2023 13:31:04 GMT -5
Since Punzel will most likely hear/post about it soon Sounds like Ella Wrobel is in the portal Maybe she can take over landfairs lease 😂
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Post by pepper3 on Dec 18, 2023 13:31:17 GMT -5
What does it mean to be held 'accountable'? Forcing someone to stay in a place they don't want to be in? . I’m saying the kids did have the intial choice and trying to claim now that kids should have a choice like they didn’t intially. What we are doing is allowing kids to not be held accountable and live up to the contracts they signed. They committed to something that they then choose not to fulfill. Why even have signings if no one has to fulfill what they essentially promised in signing
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 13:31:20 GMT -5
Not at all. If you are under scholarship you are breaking the promise you gave to the school when you signed are you not? I see you switched from contract to promise. Much better. Are coaches allowed to pull scholarships even if you made a 'promise' to that school? Coaches can also not keep their end of the 'promise'. There are so many potential reasons to transfer and limiting that is not good. a contract is a promise. Thai is why society is going to %*$# cause we hold no one responsible for their actions. We just make excuses
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 18, 2023 13:35:50 GMT -5
I see you switched from contract to promise. Much better. Are coaches allowed to pull scholarships even if you made a 'promise' to that school? Coaches can also not keep their end of the 'promise'. There are so many potential reasons to transfer and limiting that is not good. a contract is a promise. Thai is why society is going to %*$# cause we hold no one responsible for their actions. We just make excuses Businesses break contracts all the time. That's why contracts (including credit debt, for example) are treated as civil matters, not criminal ones--it's something that gets worked out between the parties and it's not the end of the world.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Dec 18, 2023 13:37:39 GMT -5
Since Punzel will most likely hear/post about it soon Sounds like Ella Wrobel is in the portal That doesn't surprise one bit. Good luck to her, hopefully she can find a program that she will get some meaningful playing time. Illinois maybe? exit237a
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Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 13:37:52 GMT -5
I see you switched from contract to promise. Much better. Are coaches allowed to pull scholarships even if you made a 'promise' to that school? Coaches can also not keep their end of the 'promise'. There are so many potential reasons to transfer and limiting that is not good. a contract is a promise. Thai is why society is going to %*$# cause we hold no one responsible for their actions. We just make excuses A contract is generally legally binding. I can't just quit my job and violate the contract. I can 'promise' a job I'll stay for five years, but, signing a contract for five years is MUCH different. I still haven't heard you talk about coaches violating THEIR end of the promises either.
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Post by vbruh on Dec 18, 2023 13:39:10 GMT -5
They signed a contract? Do you know what that even means? So it's not even completely about education - it's about forcing kids to stay where they commit to. Got it! You do understand when you sign a contract in anything it’s your promise to fulfill what’s in that contract right. It’s a promise from that individual Most schools treat student athletes as 1-year scholarships, so in essence the "contracts" are only for a school year. We've seen coaches drop players (App State just did it) and entire rosters (can't remember which coach did it last year). The student athletes are now just more empowered to make a move for various reasons. That said, I think the Portal is not as bad as people make it out to be. If there are 1,000 players in the Portal today, 900 of them are players who did not see a lot of court time, most of them DS/L, and are looking to move to a school to continue playing a sport they love. Can't blame them for that. On the other end of the spectrum, there are 10-20 impact players who have unique reasons for leaving (new coaches, poor fit with team, don't like the weather). Look at it another way, if a student in the Applied Mathematics department wanted to leave Auburn and continue his studies at Rutgers, would anyone argue against that? Now, if you want to argue there are some programs who more heavily use the Portal at the expense of HS recruit development (some have mentioned Wisco and Texas), that is a totally different conversation. That strategy seems to pay off for now, but programs who poach will likely lose talented HS players who prefer a more development culture, which is kinda what JCook was talking about in his press conference last night. Long term, I see the programs that balance their player-acquisition strategy more heavily toward HS recruits, and augmenting transfers and injuries through the Portal sustaining success. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 13:40:45 GMT -5
You do understand when you sign a contract in anything it’s your promise to fulfill what’s in that contract right. It’s a promise from that individual Most schools treat student athletes as 1-year scholarships, so in essence the "contracts" are only for a school year. We've seen coaches drop players (App State just did it) and entire rosters (can't remember which coach did it last year). The student athletes are now just more empowered to make a move for various reasons. That said, I think the Portal is not as bad as people make it out to be. If there are 1,000 players in the Portal today, 900 of them are players who did not see a lot of court time, most of them DS/L, and are looking to move to a school to continue playing a sport they love. Can't blame them for that. On the other end of the spectrum, there are 10-20 impact players who have unique reasons for leaving (new coaches, poor fit with team, don't like the weather). Look at it another way, if a student in the Applied Mathematics department wanted to leave Auburn and continue his studies at Rutgers, would anyone argue against that? Now, if you want to argue there are some programs who more heavily use the Portal at the expense of HS recruit development (some have mentioned Wisco and Texas), that is a totally different conversation. That strategy seems to pay off for now, but programs who poach will likely lose talented HS players who prefer a more development culture, which is kinda what JCook was talking about in his press conference last night. Long term, I see the programs that balance their player-acquisition strategy more heavily toward HS recruits, and augmenting transfers and injuries through the Portal sustaining success. Just my 2 cents. I'm pretty comfortable saying Boof clearly doesn't care or follow enough to know about what happened at Grambling State. He just spews nonsense on here without taking responsibility for his actions, speaking of what's wrong with society. . . .
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