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Post by rrvbfan on Dec 27, 2023 0:40:17 GMT -5
That’s what I don’t get. Could a rich parent just donate $1,000,000 to the program and the program use it as NIL money and distribute to the players or where can I read rules to NIL money? Seems like little professional teams are being made. I like Texas but this is not going to help the growth of volleyball as only 3 teams will even be able to compete. Schools can't touch or distribute NIL money. But as I understand it a rich parent could definitely donate that much to a collective dedicated to the school. As I understand it a Nebraska donor donated $5 million to their school's collective, which is set up to distribute $500,000 per year to the students on the team. as I understand it, the state of Nebraska quietly changed their law at the beginning of December and schools will be taking over nil distribution soon.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 27, 2023 0:41:23 GMT -5
but didn't she have her baby prior to the 2023 season? So I would think that 2023 would be a redshirt. I don't think your clock stops if you take a year off after you've started playing for D1 college. There are a number of circumstances that can stop a D1 athlete's clock: military service, Mormon mission. in women's hockey, the US and Canadian national team from which the Olympic teams are drawn is required to "centralize" for the NCAA season leading up to the Olympics, making it impossible to play for their NCAA team. That also stops their five-year clock. (And happens to a number of players every Olympic cycle.) Pregnancy is apparently another. I never knew that about the hockey teams. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by ndodge on Dec 27, 2023 0:48:08 GMT -5
There are a number of circumstances that can stop a D1 athlete's clock: military service, Mormon mission. in women's hockey, the US and Canadian national team from which the Olympic teams are drawn is required to "centralize" for the NCAA season leading up to the Olympics, making it impossible to play for their NCAA team. That also stops their five-year clock. (And happens to a number of players every Olympic cycle.) Pregnancy is apparently another. I never knew that about the hockey teams. Thanks for sharing. Along with Badger volleyball, Rob knows a lot more about a team he and I both follow, the 7 time national champion Badger women's hockey team. (I mostly said that to feel better about Texas volleyball seemingly soon to reach that number ;-))
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 27, 2023 0:49:55 GMT -5
Landfair signed yesterday (eye roll) Signed? Signed what? (eye roll) could mean several things.
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Post by rrvbfan on Dec 27, 2023 0:52:04 GMT -5
My hunch is Whitney will redshirt, and use her baby birthing year as a medical redshirt. With both Jenna and Madi leaving after 2024, we’ll be young at the pins, so Whitney could fill that learning curve gap for a couple years. RIP everyone else, I’m sorry babes maybe redshirt due to shoulder recovery '24 thats what I think. Rs due to the pregnancy recovery and the recent shoulder surgery?? Makes sense. Need her more next year now they they have RR
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Post by dl3ww on Dec 27, 2023 1:08:00 GMT -5
Why does it feel like so many top players leave Kentucky? I only recall of Fischer and Skinner leaving, who else left?
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 27, 2023 1:09:17 GMT -5
That’s what I don’t get. Could a rich parent just donate $1,000,000 to the program and the program use it as NIL money and distribute to the players or where can I read rules to NIL money? Seems like little professional teams are being made. I like Texas but this is not going to help the growth of volleyball as only 3 teams will even be able to compete. If you own a business you can sponsor an athlete for money. You can't just give it to them. Alternatively, you could donate it to the NIL collective and have them take care of it. The NIL collective distributes the NIL Money but they *do* require the athletes to work for it. (Might be in the form of a blog, social media, community events, etc) Oh please...many of these athletes are getting tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing nothing more than signing with a specific school and playing for a specific team. That money isn't available to them if they don't sign with said school, in said sport, and most of them aren't "working" for the money. (https://www.burntorangenation.com/2021/12/6/22820911/horns-with-heart-texas-longhorns-offensive-line-nil). 50k for any and every O lineman at Texas and one of these athletes said the commitment was one afternoon of flipping pancakes. These athletes are getting paid as close to directly by the school (the schools boosters) as you can possibly get, just to play a specific sport for the school, for amounts well in excess of the athletes actual and necessary expenses. How is that not a direct violation of the amateurism rules? I can't see how any intelligent, objective person can look at the amateurism rules of the NCAA, see what these NIL collectives are doing, and not find many of these athletes in violation of the amateurism rules.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 27, 2023 1:13:43 GMT -5
I never knew that about the hockey teams. Thanks for sharing. Along with Badger volleyball, Rob knows a lot more about a team he and I both follow, the 7 time national champion Badger women's hockey team. (I mostly said that to feel better about Texas volleyball seemingly soon to reach that number ;-)) Hey, I’m not doing anything to earn it. I’m as happy as a lark right now, but I’m just fortunate to be a fan. I don’t blame you for taking pride in your hockey team. It’s so fun when our teams do well. I felt like it was a fun tidbit.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 27, 2023 1:20:37 GMT -5
If you own a business you can sponsor an athlete for money. You can't just give it to them. Alternatively, you could donate it to the NIL collective and have them take care of it. The NIL collective distributes the NIL Money but they *do* require the athletes to work for it. (Might be in the form of a blog, social media, community events, etc) Oh please...many of these athletes are getting tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing nothing more than signing with a specific school and playing for a specific team. That money isn't available to them if they don't sign with said school, in said sport, and most of them aren't "working" for the money. (https://www.burntorangenation.com/2021/12/6/22820911/horns-with-heart-texas-longhorns-offensive-line-nil). 50k for any and every O lineman at Texas and one of these athletes said the commitment was one afternoon of flipping pancakes. These athletes are getting paid as close to directly by the school (the schools boosters) as you can possibly get, just to play a specific sport for the school, for amounts well in excess of the athletes actual and necessary expenses. How is that not a direct violation of the amateurism rules? I can't see how any intelligent, objective person can look at the amateurism rules of the NCAA, see what these NIL collectives are doing, and not find many of these athletes in violation of the amateurism rules. Oh heck. That’s peanuts. My guess is that the NIL payroll at Texas for football and men’s basketball is at least $15 million. The going rate for a top transfer QB in the portal this year was over $1 million (per year). And those numbers are only going to keep getting higher. I know there’s been issues at places with players not getting paid NIL funds they were contractually obligated to receive. If that continues at some point there will be a lawsuit that should blow at least some kind of hole of transparency out of this mess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 2:03:26 GMT -5
Why does it feel like so many top players leave Kentucky? I only recall of Fischer and Skinner leaving, who else left? Bella Bell and now Jordyn Williams. Not sure if we’re counting grad transfers but if so then A Skinner and Rutherford too
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Post by cbrown1709 on Dec 27, 2023 2:09:44 GMT -5
I only recall of Fischer and Skinner leaving, who else left? Bella Bell and now Jordyn Williams. Not sure if we’re counting grad transfers but if so then A Skinner and Rutherford too Bell was a grad transfer as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 2:13:49 GMT -5
Bella Bell and now Jordyn Williams. Not sure if we’re counting grad transfers but if so then A Skinner and Rutherford too Bell was a grad transfer as well. wait I thought she had her Covid year?
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Post by pcll0718 on Dec 27, 2023 2:17:28 GMT -5
Is JE just doing the thing where he's taking all the top transfers so no one else gets them?? Smh This really isn't good for the game to have all this top talent sitting on the sidelines instead of being developed and getting game experience. Which of these players could/would have been a national team player but won't because they aren't going to get enough game experience because they thought it was a good idea to sit on the bench and get a few rings?? I know I'm going to hear but the school is great, the team culture is great, yada yada yada. The same goes for Nebraska. It's not good for the game of volleyball as a whole. It's frankly just sad. Hmmmmm, Nebraska has a sh*ty culture. Cook is an absolute as***le and you can see it by looking at him and hearing what the people involved in his program have to say Bait
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 27, 2023 2:18:33 GMT -5
Why does it feel like so many top players leave Kentucky? well if you look at each case individually its all pretty normal. starting with Avery skinner, the grad program she wanted to do was not offered at kentucky so she went to Baylor and played her 5th season there while getting the degree she wanted. Fischer transfer made a lot of sense too, at the rate she was performing she was not going to see the floor at Kentucky - glad she turned it around at uga but she wasn't a 'top' player whatsoever when she left kentucky. she left for the purpose of playing time bs she was riding the bench at UK then there's Madi skinner, she was very unhappy in Lexington and just didnt like the environment she was in - Austin is quite the contrast so it makes sense. she only took visits to schools in big cities when she entered the portal (LA, Columbus, Austin). she said herself she felt like she committed too early as a high schooler and now rutherford who left a long heartfelt message on social media about her love for Kentucky and the program like two weeks ago. she put in her 4 years and now that her entire class will be gone in 2024, it makes sense she's ready to move on and went closer to home saw people mention bell and Williams - not really 'top' players lol but bell left for her grad program that was not offered at UK after spending 4 years of undergrad there, same as Avery skinner. Williams left because she has sat the bench for 3 years and her best friends rutherford and tealer just graduated none of its shady or a sign of anything bad going down in Lexington
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Post by dl3ww on Dec 27, 2023 3:38:45 GMT -5
I only recall of Fischer and Skinner leaving, who else left? Bella Bell and now Jordyn Williams. Not sure if we’re counting grad transfers but if so then A Skinner and Rutherford too Nah grad transfers don’t count 😭
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