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Post by axelfoley on Jan 2, 2024 9:10:49 GMT -5
But he could, so my point is that Krause and Batenhorst would be better off waiting an extra day to enter the portal, so it would be interesting if they didn’t.[/quote]
I agree with the idea, the magic date though is the 22nd. But could be any time before then if they get assurance their money is good. So if they have the convo with Cook about entering and emphasize their desire to graduate in the spring, it would be a bad look not to let them at this point.
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jan 2, 2024 9:16:40 GMT -5
But he could, so my point is that Krause and Batenhorst would be better off waiting an extra day to enter the portal, so it would be interesting if they didn’t. I agree with the idea, the magic date though is the 22nd. But could be any time before then if they get assurance their money is good. When my kid went in before spring semester as a grad it was only because coach said her money is good for the spring because they want her to graduate and even gave ok to go in early before the season was over to beat the rush. So if they have the convo with Cook about entering and emphasize their desire to graduate in the spring, it would be a bad look not to let them at this point. you’re right on Jan 22 being the magic date, I didn’t look closely enough at their academic calendar page.
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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 10:27:34 GMT -5
I am glad Nebraska in volleyball with our NIL, resources, facilities and such are amongst the very best in the country. What other sports in a two million populated state can say that? I don’t feel at all the guilt of such stature. Nor do I feel any apologies are necessary. I understand fan bases that don’t have such assets. But I will not lose sleep to fans of college volleyball or teams they love who don’t posses such assets. . No one is asking you to lose sleep. If what you're saying is correct, then the Huskers are effectively a professional team. That being so, what is your answer to my question, with everybody effectively a free agent on a year by year basis, why isn't every top player--say first or second team AA--in the portal and angling for her 6 figure movie star stipend? This is neither praise nor criticism. Just a question: why would anyone good enough to "move up" to a school offering a lot more money, not try for it? Ok, not every single person will be money-motivated. But I find it hard to believe that any team has anything like the money that Nebraska, Texas, and maybe Wisconsin can offer. If you can make $100K at school X and $10K at your current school, most will take the money and run.
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 10:31:50 GMT -5
Youre so musty.. funk... take a shower 304. Your still embarrassed by calling her to WI. As far as bought her, I suspect all of the NE VB players make at least $50k of NIL, most over $100k. Money in college sports has been extreme for decades. What changed is now the SA's get some trickle down. BTW it's ALL trickle down. Those in the middle and lower levels do best in rich systems. Just how it is. Really not mad she choose the $ - I get it, I agree with you that it's all about the Benji's.... well not all programs/players.... but a large percentage
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Jan 2, 2024 10:33:36 GMT -5
Calling a former 1st-team AA and someone who hasn't even made an all-conference end of season team "fairly comparable' is wild and crazily unfair to Landfair lol. I get she just had a down year and all, but she has proven she can be a terminator getting 4+ K/S on an elite team where opposing blockers can camp on the pins because Minny doesn't set their middles. And it's not like Krause bring some sort of elite defense or serve receive (she passed a 1.78 last year, which is worse than Landfair by the way lol) to the table to even out the comparisons. Also, in the event of a tie, Landfair has two more years of eligiblity, Krause only has 1, so it would probably tilts towards Landfair simply because of that (ironically, kinda similar to how Krause (and Batenhorst) was the starter by the end of her freshman year over Lexi Sun). See if your impression of Krause improves when she ends up being the piece Wisconsin adds to improve their team So Mrs. Krause, you don't think that Krause can beat out Landfair either? Thanks for furthering my point.
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 10:40:27 GMT -5
Your still embarrassed by calling her to WI. As far as bought her, I suspect all of the NE VB players make at least $50k of NIL, most over $100k. Money in college sports has been extreme for decades. What changed is now the SA's get some trickle down. BTW it's ALL trickle down. Those in the middle and lower levels do best in rich systems. Just how it is. Really not mad she choose the $ - I get it, I agree with you that it's all about the Benji's.... well not all programs/players.... but a large percentage Trust me, Wisconsin is in the red every year... they don't make money or have money.... their NIL program is babysteps compare to the others mentioned. Wisconsin, Louiseville, Pitt etc. still babies to this $ game.
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 10:46:27 GMT -5
See if your impression of Krause improves when she ends up being the piece Wisconsin adds to improve their team So Mrs. Krause, you don't think that Krause can beat out Landfair either? Thanks for furthering my point. Landfair could not have chosen a more terrible situation to come into -- The egos of the Fab5 Jr National Team, The Transfer of the decade (Beason), and we must not forget (we're reminded every day), the all world/all everything touches 14' Krause, that everyone keeps losing their minds over!??! C H E M I S T R Y. Will be odd, egos and pride will be the demise of the season. $$ to the bank. Not all $$ is good $$
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Post by tedheise on Jan 2, 2024 11:11:37 GMT -5
You see nothing but evil and manipulations in Cook. Guarentee the addition of Landfair was discussed with team members. I’m sure it was, but I’m also sure some of the team members weren’t happy about it, and JCook knew they wouldn’t be, and he did it anyway. I'm gonna make one and only one comment on this whole evil machinations mantra. Are you suggesting a coach should put happiness of all players as the highest priority? This "he did it anyway" comment is really a bit much. Sure Cook has flaws, but implying he does things with evil intent says something about the person making the implication. I have no idea how much (if any) Taylor may have improved the Badgers, but am happy taking your word for it. Could be Cook had this thought as well, but it seems unlikely to have been a major factor. It just doesn't seem important enough to outweigh others.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 2, 2024 11:16:01 GMT -5
I’m sure it was, but I’m also sure some of the team members weren’t happy about it, and JCook knew they wouldn’t be, and he did it anyway. My key thesis is that Landfair would improve Wisconsin greatly, so part of the appeal of Landfair to JCook is denying her from Wisconsin. Maybe, but WI has a huge amount of tall talent. We need passing more than we need Landfair 2023. IF she decides to defend, terminate and go for a ball defensively (unlike 2023 version), she'd be an addition to three rotations.
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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 11:33:50 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Or if you're Krause, is it a no-brainer to stay at Nebraska, even if Landfair beats you out for playing time, unless you can follow Lauenstein and decamp to mega-buck Texas? And if your cut of NIL varies depending on how much you play, what does it do to team chemistry when current player X stands to lose 10s of thousands of dollars if transfer player Y relegates X to the bench?
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Post by bborr on Jan 2, 2024 11:49:22 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Or if you're Krause, is it a no-brainer to stay at Nebraska, even if Landfair beats you out for playing time, unless you can follow Lauenstein and decamp to mega-buck Texas? And if your cut of NIL varies depending on how much you play, what does it do to team chemistry when current player X stands to lose 10s of thousands of dollars if transfer player Y relates X to the bench? I think it gets exaggerated, but some of your questions are good ones. As I understand it, the collective for WVB at Nebraska was given $5M to use over 10 years. That is $500k per year. With 14 players, that would average about $35k each per year. The Lexi’s and Merritt’s will also have their own deals, and I am sure they do great. The black box for me is who gives out the $500k and how do they decide who gets what.
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Post by chenny11 on Jan 2, 2024 11:53:26 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Penn State obviously does not have the NIL resources that Nebraska or Texas do, but they have a pretty dedicated booster program and the biggest alumni network in the country. I’m sure the PSU girls are getting a good amount of NIL money. Enough at least that a Nebraska player would feel okay transferring there. The PSU girls also see do post a good amount of promotions on their instagram from local businesses.
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Post by jeepers on Jan 2, 2024 11:56:34 GMT -5
I think the players are better off getting specialized degrees than hocking local crap for a few bucks, but that's just me. ![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOThjMDE0YWYtMzQ0Mi00MDIxLWE1YmMtZmUwZDE3ZDliMTViXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDIxNTEyMQ@@._V1_.jpg)
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jan 2, 2024 11:59:18 GMT -5
I’m sure it was, but I’m also sure some of the team members weren’t happy about it, and JCook knew they wouldn’t be, and he did it anyway. I'm gonna make one and only one comment on this whole evil machinations mantra. Are you suggesting a coach should put happiness of all players as the highest priority? This "he did it anyway" comment is really a bit much. No I’m not. I don’t think JCook is “evil”. Coaches in every sport bring in additional players to the dismay of their current players. Player happiness is a factor a coach should consider, but not the only one.
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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 12:06:07 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Penn State obviously does not have the NIL resources that Nebraska or Texas do, but they have a pretty dedicated booster program and the biggest alumni network in the country. I’m sure the PSU girls are getting a good amount of NIL money. Enough at least that a Nebraska player would feel okay transferring there. The PSU girls also see do post a good amount of promotions on their instagram from local businesses. I obviously can't speak for CJ, but it's human nature not to want to go backwards financially. The PSU money would have to be near Nebraska levels, or else, if these claims about NIL money are correct. she's going to be out tens of thousands of dollars, not just this year, but the next, etc. All this, if true, makes the sport a farce at the higher levels: professionals playing amateurs or near-amateurs. Was Texas merely the best team that money could buy this year?
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