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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 10:40:27 GMT -5
Your still embarrassed by calling her to WI. As far as bought her, I suspect all of the NE VB players make at least $50k of NIL, most over $100k. Money in college sports has been extreme for decades. What changed is now the SA's get some trickle down. BTW it's ALL trickle down. Those in the middle and lower levels do best in rich systems. Just how it is. Really not mad she choose the $ - I get it, I agree with you that it's all about the Benji's.... well not all programs/players.... but a large percentage Trust me, Wisconsin is in the red every year... they don't make money or have money.... their NIL program is babysteps compare to the others mentioned. Wisconsin, Louiseville, Pitt etc. still babies to this $ game. |
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 10:46:27 GMT -5
See if your impression of Krause improves when she ends up being the piece Wisconsin adds to improve their team So Mrs. Krause, you don't think that Krause can beat out Landfair either? Thanks for furthering my point. Landfair could not have chosen a more terrible situation to come into -- The egos of the Fab5 Jr National Team, The Transfer of the decade (Beason), and we must not forget (we're reminded every day), the all world/all everything touches 14' Krause, that everyone keeps losing their minds over!??! C H E M I S T R Y. Will be odd, egos and pride will be the demise of the season. $$ to the bank. Not all $$ is good $$ |
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Post by ted_heise on Jan 2, 2024 11:11:37 GMT -5
You see nothing but evil and manipulations in Cook. Guarentee the addition of Landfair was discussed with team members. I’m sure it was, but I’m also sure some of the team members weren’t happy about it, and JCook knew they wouldn’t be, and he did it anyway. I'm gonna make one and only one comment on this whole evil machinations mantra. Are you suggesting a coach should put happiness of all players as the highest priority? This "he did it anyway" comment is really a bit much. Sure Cook has flaws, but implying he does things with evil intent says something about the person making the implication. I have no idea how much (if any) Taylor may have improved the Badgers, but am happy taking your word for it. Could be Cook had this thought as well, but it seems unlikely to have been a major factor. It just doesn't seem important enough to outweigh others. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 2, 2024 11:16:01 GMT -5
I’m sure it was, but I’m also sure some of the team members weren’t happy about it, and JCook knew they wouldn’t be, and he did it anyway. My key thesis is that Landfair would improve Wisconsin greatly, so part of the appeal of Landfair to JCook is denying her from Wisconsin. Maybe, but WI has a huge amount of tall talent. We need passing more than we need Landfair 2023. IF she decides to defend, terminate and go for a ball defensively (unlike 2023 version), she'd be an addition to three rotations. |
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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 11:33:50 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Or if you're Krause, is it a no-brainer to stay at Nebraska, even if Landfair beats you out for playing time, unless you can follow Lauenstein and decamp to mega-buck Texas? And if your cut of NIL varies depending on how much you play, what does it do to team chemistry when current player X stands to lose 10s of thousands of dollars if transfer player Y relegates X to the bench?
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Post by bborr on Jan 2, 2024 11:49:22 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Or if you're Krause, is it a no-brainer to stay at Nebraska, even if Landfair beats you out for playing time, unless you can follow Lauenstein and decamp to mega-buck Texas? And if your cut of NIL varies depending on how much you play, what does it do to team chemistry when current player X stands to lose 10s of thousands of dollars if transfer player Y relates X to the bench? I think it gets exaggerated, but some of your questions are good ones. As I understand it, the collective for WVB at Nebraska was given $5M to use over 10 years. That is $500k per year. With 14 players, that would average about $35k each per year. The Lexi’s and Merritt’s will also have their own deals, and I am sure they do great. The black box for me is who gives out the $500k and how do they decide who gets what. |
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Post by chenny11 on Jan 2, 2024 11:53:26 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Penn State obviously does not have the NIL resources that Nebraska or Texas do, but they have a pretty dedicated booster program and the biggest alumni network in the country. I’m sure the PSU girls are getting a good amount of NIL money. Enough at least that a Nebraska player would feel okay transferring there. The PSU girls also see do post a good amount of promotions on their instagram from local businesses. |
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Post by jeepers on Jan 2, 2024 11:56:34 GMT -5
I think the players are better off getting specialized degrees than hocking local crap for a few bucks, but that's just me.  |
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jan 2, 2024 11:59:18 GMT -5
I’m sure it was, but I’m also sure some of the team members weren’t happy about it, and JCook knew they wouldn’t be, and he did it anyway. I'm gonna make one and only one comment on this whole evil machinations mantra. Are you suggesting a coach should put happiness of all players as the highest priority? This "he did it anyway" comment is really a bit much. No I’m not. I don’t think JCook is “evil”. Coaches in every sport bring in additional players to the dismay of their current players. Player happiness is a factor a coach should consider, but not the only one. |
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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 12:06:07 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Penn State obviously does not have the NIL resources that Nebraska or Texas do, but they have a pretty dedicated booster program and the biggest alumni network in the country. I’m sure the PSU girls are getting a good amount of NIL money. Enough at least that a Nebraska player would feel okay transferring there. The PSU girls also see do post a good amount of promotions on their instagram from local businesses. I obviously can't speak for CJ, but it's human nature not to want to go backwards financially. The PSU money would have to be near Nebraska levels, or else, if these claims about NIL money are correct. she's going to be out tens of thousands of dollars, not just this year, but the next, etc. All this, if true, makes the sport a farce at the higher levels: professionals playing amateurs or near-amateurs. Was Texas merely the best team that money could buy this year? |
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Post by bigredhimbo on Jan 2, 2024 12:09:00 GMT -5
I think the players are better off getting specialized degrees than hocking local crap for a few bucks, but that's just me. Anni Evans ate sticking to her planned academic goals. Has the diversity of major been a bit better recently though? I know CJ was multimajoring journalism, Lindsay English, and Harper business/law |
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Post by jimboslice on Jan 2, 2024 12:10:28 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Or if you're Krause, is it a no-brainer to stay at Nebraska, even if Landfair beats you out for playing time, unless you can follow Lauenstein and decamp to mega-buck Texas? And if your cut of NIL varies depending on how much you play, what does it do to team chemistry when current player X stands to lose 10s of thousands of dollars if transfer player Y relegates X to the bench? There was just a good New York Times article (specifically about football) and how much NIL money is influencing transfers to top schools there, basically guaranteeing players salaries, benefits, etc… football obviously has more money flowing through it but I think the same is probably true of volleyball but it’s a lot more unknown because there’s less transparency and coverage of the sport. So yes I feel like the NIL money may have been a big factor and all of those hypotheticals could be true. We may never know but I can’t imagine Texas/nebraska/all other big volleyball schools are convincing players to go there without some kind of incentive |
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Post by VBallLife on Jan 2, 2024 12:10:59 GMT -5
I'm gonna make one and only one comment on this whole evil machinations mantra. Are you suggesting a coach should put happiness of all players as the highest priority? This "he did it anyway" comment is really a bit much. No I’m not. I don’t think JCook is “evil”. Coaches in every sport bring in additional players to the dismay of their current players. Player happiness is a factor a coach should consider, but not the only one. Coaches want the most competitive gym possible and they are solely thinking about winning. If that were not the case,they wouldn’t recruit out of the portal seasoned players to improve their roster. |
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Post by vbshrink on Jan 2, 2024 12:11:22 GMT -5
but you’re doing it in every single thread lol. Not just this one I'm responding to the hysterics where the hysterics are being posted. You're not mad at me for responding to the nonsense. You're mad at me because I'm speaking truth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Dropping shruggie like it's 2014!!! |
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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 12:15:57 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Or if you're Krause, is it a no-brainer to stay at Nebraska, even if Landfair beats you out for playing time, unless you can follow Lauenstein and decamp to mega-buck Texas? And if your cut of NIL varies depending on how much you play, what does it do to team chemistry when current player X stands to lose 10s of thousands of dollars if transfer player Y relates X to the bench? I think it gets exaggerated, but some of your questions are good ones. As I understand it, the collective for WVB at Nebraska was given $5M to use over 10 years. That is $500k per year. With 14 players, that would average about $35k each per year. The Lexi’s and Merritt’s will also have their own deals, and I am sure they do great. The black box for me is who gives out the $500k and how do they decide who gets what. According to one commenter, there were two $5MM contributions to Nebraska's NIL, which if true, would mean an average of $70K, which would imply $100K+ for any of the better known players. That would be over and above the scholarship money. The two money streams combined would be, would it not, far more than most NCAA players who turn pro after graduation, but who aren't NT level talent, get for playing in PR or France or Germany or someplace like that? What do players in the new American pro leagues make? Surely, nothing like that. Who makes more money? The average Nebraska volleyball player on scholarship (counting the scholarship, too) or the average WNBA player? How about the average LPGA tour player? |
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