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Post by pavsec5row10 on Sept 10, 2024 12:26:04 GMT -5
When I as a novice started watching Gophers VB in 2015 and in the following years, the tough 5-setters were matches Gophers always seemed to find a way to win. What's the difference between those years and the past 3 or so years? Is it simply we now are lacking key talent components on the roster? Or is it coaching mistakes? Or what else possibly? The Gophers were 19-7 in 5 set matches from 2018-2023. I think the main difference is those teams had better records, so naturally won more of the matches. 2018 (27-4) (2-1) Michigan St W Ohio St W Penn St L Set 5 12-15 2019 (27-6) (4-1) Michigan W Ohio St W Nebraska L Set 5 3-15 Ooof. Creighton W (NCAA Rd 2) Florida W (@ Texas NCAA Rd 3) 2021 Spring (16-3) (4-1) @ Purdue W @ Purdue W Penn St W Illinois W Pittsburgh L (@ Omaha NCAA Rd 2) Set 5 11-15 2021 Fall (23-9) (5-2) @ Oregon W Michigan W @ Northwestern W @ Michigan L Set 5 11-15 Nebraska W Wisconsin L Set 5 12-15 Baylor W (@wisconsin NCAA Rd 3) 2022 (22-9) (1-1) Northwestern L Set 5 13-15 @ Illinois W 2023 (17-13) (4-2) Oregon W (@ Stanford) Creighton L Set 5 9-15 @ Iowa W @ Maryland L Set 5 10-15 Northwestern W @indiana W
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Post by gopherhim on Sept 10, 2024 12:39:49 GMT -5
Now that Northwestern doesn’t have a TTA or Sangiacomo type of player, can we please not go 5 with them? I beg
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Sept 10, 2024 14:53:51 GMT -5
I don’t know why I forgot about this. But if you included the exhibition match against Iowa state, the gophers have played 5 5-set matches in a row 😊
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Post by gopherfan8 on Sept 10, 2024 16:32:16 GMT -5
Match thread for tonight? Sorry don’t have it saved
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Post by curiouskg on Sept 10, 2024 16:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by JT on Sept 10, 2024 23:00:40 GMT -5
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Post by gopherfan90 on Sept 10, 2024 23:44:39 GMT -5
It’s absolutely baffling to me that Chloe didn’t get to see the floor with how Elise was setting. She’s the sole backup setter for next year unless they get a transfer so if she’s really that bad we’re in trouble.
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Post by gopherhim on Sept 10, 2024 23:50:50 GMT -5
It’s absolutely baffling to me that Chloe didn’t get to see the floor with how Elise was setting. She’s the sole backup setter for next year unless they get a transfer so if she’s really that bad we’re in trouble. With LIU, Green Bay, Chicago State, and North Dakota coming up, maybe it’s already planned to give her a shot later and tonight was Elise’s night to show her stuff? But I agree. I hope she gets playing time otherwise I worry about the backup situation next season but for THIS season, if she doesn’t play at all in non-con I’m guessing that means Elise is the backup in a 5-1 if Mel can’t play. And we saw how that went 😅
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Post by jeepers on Sept 11, 2024 4:17:13 GMT -5
Of all the things to worry about, next year’s backup setter is pretty low on my list.
Pin hitters who have yet to show any consistency in terminality…high.
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Post by skolgophers on Sept 11, 2024 7:44:28 GMT -5
So my thoughts on the match yesterday:
I watched from home, but that was the biggest “student section” crowd I’ve seen in a few years, maybe they should offer free pizza every match 😂
I understand Cook’s thought process in using this as more of a scrimmage and limit risk of injury to starters by playing more bench players. but with that being said, these are the matches that the starters should be using to work out kinks and to push through the struggles. Not having Wucherer play for more than half a set is not going to help her in-game issues.
Z ended up with 20 digs but was still burned on a few easy balls.
The offense should be working on how to effectively tip. Too many times the sets were unhittable, but they need to work on how to terminate in those instances.
Was a sloppy match and I feel as though they were playing down to their opponent, but a win is a win 😬
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Sept 11, 2024 8:17:21 GMT -5
So my thoughts on the match yesterday: I watched from home, but that was the biggest “student section” crowd I’ve seen in a few years, maybe they should offer free pizza every match 😂 I understand Cook’s thought process in using this as more of a scrimmage and limit risk of injury to starters by playing more bench players. but with that being said, these are the matches that the starters should be using to work out kinks and to push through the struggles. Not having Wucherer play for more than half a set is not going to help her in-game issues. Z ended up with 20 digs but was still burned on a few easy balls. The offense should be working on how to effectively tip. Too many times the sets were unhittable, but they need to work on how to terminate in those instances. Was a sloppy match and I feel as though they were playing down to their opponent, but a win is a win 😬 I thought they may have been working on tips for a lot of the match, the effective part was the hard part though.
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Post by mcmike on Sept 11, 2024 11:28:38 GMT -5
SERVING EFFICIENCY IS MORE THAN ACES VS ERRORS. How many Gophers have a service efficiency greater than 50%: MN wins a point more than half the time they serve?
In the St. Thomas game thread I posted: "Z is on service run experimenting with dying quail serves just over the net in front of the attack line" Her serving efficiency (points scored on her serve have improved). In the match vs Stanford she served 15x with 2SEs and MN won points only 3 times and she was held out of serving vs Baylor Texas But back in against Baylor Z served 20x with 0 SEs and MN won points on 11 including 2 runs of 3
The most striking statistic this year has been service efficiency. In the Stanford match MN had 23 SEs and Jordyn Harvey exploited MN's serve reception rather viciously In the Texas match MN dominated behind the service line: Shaffmaster served 26x and MN won points on 14 Grote served 21x and MN won points on 12 Wookie served 20x and MN won points on 9. She had 2SAs & 6SEs. On points where volleyball was played MN won points on 7 of 12 Hanson served 15x and MN won points on 8 McGhie served 9x with 2SEs and no points won. She was not a serving sub vs Baylor, but something must have happened in the interim because she served 19x in the TCU match, had no SEs, and MN scored on 13 of the 19 including a 3pt and 6pt service run
If your sideout % is better than your opponent's % you win the set. It goes without saying that you want your serves to keep the opponent out of system. I don't know if Volleymetrics tracks the stats on player service effectiveness, but I believe this is an incredibly important stat.
Wookie vs Acevedo in the first two matches Wookie had 4 SAs and 11SEs in 40 serves. You think "pathetic", but subtract the 15 terminal points (SA&SE) and MN won 14 of the other 25. 56% is pretty darn good serving. Alex pretty much has become the serving sub for Wookie. In the last two matches she has had 3SA and 2SE on 32 serves. MN has won 13 of the 27 other points, less than 50%. Alex can work on serving tougher. She's tall and can develop a serve with more pace, but what really needs to happen is for Wookie to serve 2’ behind the endline which will dramatically improve the SA/SE ratio. She is a very effective server when she isn't hitting the net or missing (mostly long). Opponents are probably not getting many FBSOs.
Through the first 3 matches Hanson was clearly MN's best server. Don't know what happened vs TCU. Something clicked for Elise after she was 'benched' for Baylor, but she was on fire vs TCU and had a 6pt run in the 4th set and a 3pt run in the 5th. Hanson McGhie
Pt SE Attempts Pt SE Attempts 9 4 18 0 1 1 8 3 15 0 2 9 12 1 18 57% I don't know what happened but 5 1 18 13 0 19 WOW!
34 9 69 49% Shaff 46% Grote 44% Wookie 43% Acevedo 41% Z 38% but 44% in last 2 matches I may have made a few counting mistakes going through 20 sets of play by play. I don't think tracking server efficiency through the rest of the non-conference schedule will be valuable.
I haven't ever studied server efficiency, don't know what a good efficiency in NCAA Div1 is, but the striking import of service runs in our first four matches has me super curious
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Post by courtwatchers on Sept 11, 2024 11:57:50 GMT -5
Of all the things to worry about, next year’s backup setter is pretty low on my list. Pin hitters who have yet to show any consistency in terminality…high. Both are concerns for me. One does question if Hugh's Low Error Ball has more of a negative impact on this team this year. I believe we are not winning many rallies and yes the players need to "put the ball away".
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Post by vbcoltrane on Sept 11, 2024 12:38:58 GMT -5
The beginning of the season is nuts with all those 3-2 matches. And now it looks like the Gophers should win pretty comfortably for the rest of non-conference (unless Auburn is an issue) and head into the Wisconsin match 7-3. I'm not sure it's beneficial to open with all those high level matches, then turn around and take it down a couple levels before playing Wisconsin. But the schedule is the schedule. 1-3 is sort of disappointing after the first weekend upset of Texas, but I still think highly of the Gophers this season and see marked improvement over last season.
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Post by dietcokefan on Sept 11, 2024 12:40:09 GMT -5
So my thoughts on the match yesterday: I watched from home, but that was the biggest “student section” crowd I’ve seen in a few years, maybe they should offer free pizza every match 😂 I understand Cook’s thought process in using this as more of a scrimmage and limit risk of injury to starters by playing more bench players. but with that being said, these are the matches that the starters should be using to work out kinks and to push through the struggles. Not having Wucherer play for more than half a set is not going to help her in-game issues. Z ended up with 20 digs but was still burned on a few easy balls. The offense should be working on how to effectively tip. Too many times the sets were unhittable, but they need to work on how to terminate in those instances. Was a sloppy match and I feel as though they were playing down to their opponent, but a win is a win 😬 Speaking of tips; I will never understand at the D1 level a player using a two handed tip lol - also, every time Crowl tips the ball I feel like it's in the air so long I would have time to drive to the arena and pick it up. I know I am being dramatic, its just the little things I notice in a game. Excited to see how they play Thursday.
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