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Post by GoGophs on Nov 4, 2024 18:09:36 GMT -5
This is the by far the most important week the rest of the season (pre-NCAAs) for the Gophers. For all intents and purposes I’m chalking @wisconsin and @nebraska as losses. Just being realistic here. Home vs Michigan and @ Illinois are the other 2 important games remaining on the calendar but they take place on separate weeks. So for this weekend: 2 wins- Strong likelihood to get a seed + host, and, maybe move into position to contend for a 3 seed 1 win- Status doesn’t change much. Still have an ok chance to host Skunked- Forget about hosting / grabbing a top 4 regional seed Really will be a telling weekend of matches… Interesting discussion in the bracketology thread too comparing Texas and MN - TX has more top 25 wins (2-6 for MN, 4-3 for TX) but MN doesn’t have any losses outside of the top 25 (TX has 3 in 26-50 range). I’m not even remotely good at bracketology or RPI… but I think if MN wins the matches they should to close out conference play, they’d be in a good position to host even if they lose to Wisco, NE and Oregon? Maybe? |
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Post by mr. samwich on Nov 4, 2024 20:27:48 GMT -5
This is the by far the most important week the rest of the season (pre-NCAAs) for the Gophers. For all intents and purposes I’m chalking @wisconsin and @nebraska as losses. Just being realistic here. Home vs Michigan and @ Illinois are the other 2 important games remaining on the calendar but they take place on separate weeks. So for this weekend: 2 wins- Strong likelihood to get a seed + host, and, maybe move into position to contend for a 3 seed 1 win- Status doesn’t change much. Still have an ok chance to host Skunked- Forget about hosting / grabbing a top 4 regional seed Really will be a telling weekend of matches… Interesting discussion in the bracketology thread too comparing Texas and MN - TX has more top 25 wins (2-6 for MN, 4-3 for TX) but MN doesn’t have any losses outside of the top 25 (TX has 3 in 26-50 range). I’m not even remotely good at bracketology or RPI… but I think if MN wins the matches they should to close out conference play, they’d be in a good position to host even if they lose to Wisco, NE and Oregon? Maybe? Maybe? They seem to arbitrarily weigh top 10 wins also, even though that isn't a listed criteria to my knowledge, so the Texas drop will hurt. Will likely be in contention WITH Texas for seeding spots now ugh. |
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Post by pointu on Nov 4, 2024 21:32:23 GMT -5
Really will be a telling weekend of matches… Interesting discussion in the bracketology thread too comparing Texas and MN - TX has more top 25 wins (2-6 for MN, 4-3 for TX) but MN doesn’t have any losses outside of the top 25 (TX has 3 in 26-50 range). I’m not even remotely good at bracketology or RPI… but I think if MN wins the matches they should to close out conference play, they’d be in a good position to host even if they lose to Wisco, NE and Oregon? Maybe? Maybe? They seem to arbitrarily weigh top 10 wins also, even though that isn't a listed criteria to my knowledge, so the Texas drop will hurt. Will likely be in contention WITH Texas for seeding spots now ugh. but we do have the head to head win vs texas and they do seem to count that for something |
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Post by gopherhim on Nov 5, 2024 22:11:12 GMT -5
Wucherer hitting a stride after being out the beginning of B1G play plus Hanson improving her season hitting % from .254 to .272 in the last month has me feeling optimistic about this week! Go Gophs! http://instagram.com/p/DB_814Fy-tq |
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Post by gopherfan8 on Nov 6, 2024 19:23:08 GMT -5
Game Preview!
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Post by mcmike on Nov 7, 2024 17:55:29 GMT -5
This is the by far the most important week the rest of the season (pre-NCAAs) for the Gophers. For all intents and purposes I’m chalking @wisconsin and @nebraska as losses. Just being realistic here. Home vs Michigan and @ Illinois are the other 2 important games remaining on the calendar but they take place on separate weeks.
So for this weekend:
2 wins- Strong likelihood to get a seed + host, and, maybe move into position to contend for a 3 seed
1 win- Status doesn’t change much. Still have an ok chance to host
Skunked- Forget about hosting / grabbing a top 4 regional seed Really will be a telling weekend of matches… Interesting discussion in the bracketology thread too comparing Texas and MN - TX has more top 25 wins (2-6 for MN, 4-3 for TX) but MN doesn’t have any losses outside of the top 25 (TX has 3 in 26-50 range). I’m not even remotely good at bracketology or RPI… but I think if MN wins the matches they should to close out conference play, they’d be in a good position to host even if they lose to Wisco, NE and Oregon? Maybe? 1 + 3 = 5 according to trojansc who put Utah in as a 4 seed and dropped MN to a 5 seed (17-20) We had a match point against Baylor that ended 14-16 We had 3 match points against TCU to end 18-20. Would we be a 3 seed lock had we won those points? Why now on the outside looking in per bracketology? RPI futures is algorithmic in a way I guess I don't understand The reveal last month at 16 during our shellacking in Happy Valley was encouraging MN hasn't lost since. Scheduling LIU, Chicago State, & Green Bay had to have been done with some knowledge of the RPI ramifications you would think. I like Massey where Utah is #23 and MN is #14. I don't like rooting against others, but Utah has two big matches upcoming. Oregon has been roulette wheeling at setter recently. They are on the BTN at 9pm tonight and I expect to be home in time to see the whole match. Who will set? How good will their block against Neb be? Can Colyer be controlled? |
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Post by JT on Nov 7, 2024 23:50:18 GMT -5
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Post by minnesconsin on Nov 7, 2024 23:56:29 GMT -5
What a disaster of a match tonight. Hope we can rebound and clean things up. How often does a team hit under .130 most of the match and easily win? It happens with 13 aces and 11 Minnesota SEs......vs Washington only losing 8 points between those.
Why leave Wucherer in the match when she was aced at least 4x within an 8 point span? I felt terrible for her. Take her out, let her refocus, go back in. Her Serve Receive has actually been really good recently.
Then we had way too many SEs; we essentially handed Washington a full set's worth of points with Serve/Receive and Service Errors. Ugh. Now for #12 Oregon. As Keagan said in his postgame interview:
"It's one of those box scores that will confuse you for a while," said head coach Keegan Cook. "To outhit a team by almost double their hitting percentage and certainly block at a high level – but the game is won and lost in serve receive. Certainly, there were things late in the match that I was familiar with, and that was Washington at their best."
Some good points: Crowl serving was great; Acevedo serving was great. Why not leave her in across the back row if Wucherer is struggling-- she also wasn't set once from the back row, so why not Acevedo?
Loved the energy brought by Engeman!
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Post by mcmike on Nov 8, 2024 0:18:28 GMT -5
ABJECT FAILURE IN THE SERVE/PASS GAME smartervolley.substack.com/p/points-of-the-triangle-terminal-serving(Your service aces + opponent service errors) minus ( your service errors + # of your opponents aces) (6 + 2) minus (13 + 11 ) = minus 16, but 24 is an entire set's worth of gifts smartervolley.substack.com/p/thetrianglethe other two points of the triangle are First Ball points and points in Transition Washington match impressions Outside of what was apparently devilish serving with only 2 SEs Washington was outhit and outblocked Their floor defense in the latter stages of the 4th set surely frustrated MN who, at that point of the match, had little room for error. Shout out to Zoria in particular who was a whirling dervish! You would expect with their best OH in a boot, that Endsley would get a lot of attacks and MN shut her down Crowl outperformed behind the service line winning points on 7/13 and Shaff was 8/16 Kali E. had a coming out party of sorts: 5 1 9 .444 with almost all? kills on the slide. Her one error, a drive that did not clear the net that would have knotted the score at 18s in the 4th set was due to an insufficiently high set. Just a point earlier Kali tied the score at 17s with a floor denter on the same play but with a nice high set. Minatee was pulled after deciding not to attack an overpass. The play looked odd. Some of her production woes have been due to lousy footwork, probably due to adjusting to unanticipated set locations. Kali has arm power but does not seem as athletic or as vertical as Calissa. Watching Harper Murray disguise her offspeed shots should be studied by Hanson and Wookie. I'm amazed that Wookie gets as many kills on tippy shots. I see them coming from a mile away but opponent back courts evidently don't. I'd like to see more hard driven kills from her, but it's hard to complain when her H% is up 100pts. Keegan must have substitution issues. I think we would see Wookie getting a rest if there was any alternative. He doesn't see Alex doing any better evidently. don't understand all of the new libero rules, but can't Acevedo serve for Wookie and then have an L2 play backcourt for Wookie? Hanson is much more mobile and can reliably play in the reception pattern, wasn't aced (though also had some passing issues). Sub issues get back to serving efficiency because you'll always run out of subs if you aren't scoring points on your serves. Seems like some experimentation that keeps just one Libero on the court could happen if Z is performing as weakly as some aver. I'm not a back court analyzer at all. Z had a pair of service errors and is serving mostly lollipops. (won 6 points on her 15 serves). Just in the last week posters were happy happy happy with Keegan's coaching. Tonight the knives are out. You cannot tell what is happening with our passing from the sideline. An end zone view would help. I think Wookie has a physical issue preventing her from forming a workable platform. Maybe McGhie or Gray could serve for one of the MBs and be a DS and Z could replace Acevedo after she sides out. Wookie isn't getting any back row attacks anyway. Does Wookie NEED to be on the court 5 1/2 rotations out of 6? |
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Post by hrothgar on Nov 8, 2024 0:54:00 GMT -5
Sitting at court side, I watched MN blow substantial leads in sets 1 & 2 and show little emotion in doing so. A dismal performance against a team that had its best player sidelined in a boot.
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Post by braceminn on Nov 8, 2024 1:17:24 GMT -5
Sitting at court side, I watched MN blow substantial leads in sets 1 & 2 and show little emotion in doing so. A dismal performance against a team that had its best player sidelined in a boot. Me too! So painful watching Keegan in a squat position just watching it all fall apart without making any changes. It’s like 2023 season all over again with him being stuck and not using his depth to make a change. Do better coach |
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Post by minnley on Nov 8, 2024 1:31:19 GMT -5
What a disaster of a match tonight. Hope we can rebound and clean things up. How often does a team hit under .130 most of the match and easily win? It happens with 13 aces and 11 Minnesota SEs......vs Washington only losing 8 points between those. Why leave Wucherer in the match when she was aced at least 4x within an 8 point span? I felt terrible for her. Take her out, let her refocus, go back in. Her Serve Receive has actually been really good recently. Then we had way too many SEs; we essentially handed Washington a full set's worth of points with Serve/Receive and Service Errors. Ugh. Now for #12 Oregon. As Keagan said in his postgame interview: "It's one of those box scores that will confuse you for a while," said head coach Keegan Cook. "To outhit a team by almost double their hitting percentage and certainly block at a high level – but the game is won and lost in serve receive. Certainly, there were things late in the match that I was familiar with, and that was Washington at their best." Some good points: Crowl serving was great; Acevedo serving was great. Why not leave her in across the back row if Wucherer is struggling-- she also wasn't set once from the back row, so why not Acevedo? Loved the energy brought by Engeman! I agree on Wucherer. She shouldn't see the back row for the rest of the year. |
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Post by volleysota on Nov 8, 2024 1:42:52 GMT -5
What a disaster of a match tonight. Hope we can rebound and clean things up. How often does a team hit under .130 most of the match and easily win? It happens with 13 aces and 11 Minnesota SEs......vs Washington only losing 8 points between those. Why leave Wucherer in the match when she was aced at least 4x within an 8 point span? I felt terrible for her. Take her out, let her refocus, go back in. Her Serve Receive has actually been really good recently. Then we had way too many SEs; we essentially handed Washington a full set's worth of points with Serve/Receive and Service Errors. Ugh. Now for #12 Oregon. As Keagan said in his postgame interview: "It's one of those box scores that will confuse you for a while," said head coach Keegan Cook. "To outhit a team by almost double their hitting percentage and certainly block at a high level – but the game is won and lost in serve receive. Certainly, there were things late in the match that I was familiar with, and that was Washington at their best." Some good points: Crowl serving was great; Acevedo serving was great. Why not leave her in across the back row if Wucherer is struggling-- she also wasn't set once from the back row, so why not Acevedo? Loved the energy brought by Engeman! I agree on Wucherer. She shouldn't see the back row for the rest of the year. That'll never happen. Cook is treating her like he did Taylor Landfair last year. McKenna could get aced every point for the rest of the season and as long as she's not on crutches she'll play a minimum of 5.5 rotations. |
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Post by douglass9 on Nov 8, 2024 9:14:05 GMT -5
The Wucherer Landfair comparison is correct. I saw the other coach sub in when players was struggling. Frist set SE at points 19,20,21 can't win with three straight. Hanson 3 of her first four serves were SE and ended with four. Second set Keagan should have call a time out at 18/14 to settle them down and sub out Wucherer who tried to one arm poach some serves headed to z resulting in aces. I like that Keagan plays a lot of people but needs to manage the game to give his players the best shot at winning. But we have to quit making excuses for team that is not as good as we think they are. They seem to melt in clutch situations and and do not have a floor leader to change that.
All right I'm a volleyball fan. Still the most exciting sport. Go gophers!!
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Post by mcmike on Nov 8, 2024 11:47:50 GMT -5
The Wucherer Landfair comparison is correct. I saw the other coach sub in when players was struggling. I believe Keegan thinks his hands are tied, but he did make changes including bringing Hanson into the reception trio and stacking Wookie behind the MB. As well, he swapped Hanson for Wookie in sets 3 & 4 to protect Wookie from Hunt's tough serves: set 1 set 2 set 3 set 4
Shaff Z Shaff Hanson
Acev Grote Hanson Z
Z Hanson Z Grote
Grote Crowl Grote Acev
Hans Shaff Acev Crowl
McGh Acev Crowl Shaff
Acevedo, Shaff, & Crowl were our most effective servers so having them at the end of the 6 rotations could have cost them times at the service line. One would assume that Keegan had a reason to spin the dial. In sets 3 & 4 our most efficient servers were serving last again. UW maintained the same serving rotation all night. It would be nice to know why. First set consecutive SEs at points 19,20,21 can't win with three straight. Hanson 3 of her first four serves were SE and ended with four. I mentioned the same serving issue with Wookie back when. If your serves with pace tend to be a couple of feet long, then release the serve a couple of feet behind the endline. Second set Keagan should have called a time out at 18/14 to settle them down and sub out Wucherer who tried to one arm poach some serves headed to z resulting in aces. I like that Keegan plays a lot of people but needs to manage the game to give his players the best shot at winning. Agree with 18-14 after 3 in a row and 2 aces. Hiding Wookie made sense. If he had other options he might have employed them. But we have to quit making excuses for team that is not as good as we think they are. They seem to melt in clutch situations and and do not have a floor leader to change that. All right I'm a volleyball fan. Still the most exciting sport. Go gophers!! Can someone help analyze MN's subs/rotations When MN starts in ro1 with Shaff serving and after the ro1 sideout Acevedo subs in to serve for Wookie When the opponent sides out Wookie subs in for Acevedo Z comes in to serve for MB1 (not a sub) After Grote serves & sides out Thibault plays 2.5 rotations as a DS Hanson rotates into serve position as Wookie becomes OH After MB2 rotates out Crowl/McGhie/Ng/ comes in as serving specialist (SS) Z replaces the outgoing SS
Is this 4 subs in each 6 rotations?
Given that Wookie isn't being utilized as a back row attacker why can't that switcheroo of MB/ SS / Z replacement be adjusted to Wookie/ Acevedo/ Z. Z can serve and play backcourt for one of the MBs The other MB can serve and then be subbed for a DS. Wookie gets a breather and I don't think this taxes our sub situation? The fact of the matter is that Wucherer has been passing a lot better lately, so this arrangement could be an option. I'd prefer to see more bics and D balls after Acevedo sides out. As was previously mentioned she often has a better swing when in a hurry and without 4 hands in front of her. I'm tired of clamoring for more variance in set speed and location for her. I think it would be a challenge she might enjoy. |
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