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Post by VT Karen on Aug 9, 2024 17:11:42 GMT -5
What would word would have gotten out about Robyn? I don't know. I'm guessing. But with all that our program has going for it as I listed above, isn't it strange that we were not able to get one significant transfer? No, it's not strange to me because Hawaii is an isolated school that doesn't have much money pouring in. I think they can be great again but it's going to take an influx of money. I am no longer mystified by years past when the playing field was a little more even. I just want the program to continue to do its best with what they have.
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Post by hapaguy on Aug 9, 2024 17:21:01 GMT -5
Agreed! I'm finished lamenting about how Hawaii didn't secure any higher profile transfers for whatever reason. It is what it is and it didn't happen. The team (coaches included) knows that they need to work hard to get up to speed before the season opener. I am excited for the freshman and very excited to see Hawaii's trio of pins with Stella, Tali and Caylen. If Hawaii does end up having a bad season, it won't be because they didn't do their best. Absolutely. To keep nagging on the lack of transfers at this point, takes away from the fact we have players that have been part of this program since their freshmen season in Lang, Ikenaga, Alexander, etc. and away from the other nine that said yes to being Wahine. Hawaii has had 13-player rosters before believe it or not. Not many, but not unheard of. Just look back on the roster tab on the website. I don't recall us ever having a 13 player roster in the past so I went and looked and it appears we had 13 player roster twice back in the early 2000's. It's the exception rather than the rule.
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Post by hapaguy on Aug 9, 2024 17:22:06 GMT -5
I don't know. I'm guessing. But with all that our program has going for it as I listed above, isn't it strange that we were not able to get one significant transfer? No, it's not strange to me because Hawaii is an isolated school that doesn't have much money pouring in. I think they can be great again but it's going to take an influx of money. I am no longer mystified by years past when the playing field was a little more even. I just want the program to continue to do its best with what they have. Well I supposes we will have to agree to disagree then.
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Post by VT Karen on Aug 9, 2024 17:23:42 GMT -5
No, it's not strange to me because Hawaii is an isolated school that doesn't have much money pouring in. I think they can be great again but it's going to take an influx of money. I am no longer mystified by years past when the playing field was a little more even. I just want the program to continue to do its best with what they have. Well I supposes we will have to agree to disagree then. Tell me again what you think the issue is?
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Post by hapaguy on Aug 9, 2024 17:26:39 GMT -5
Well I supposes we will have to agree to disagree then. Tell me again what you think the issue is? IDK what the issue is (maybe coaching?) but your excuse that we're isolated with not a lot of money pouring in does not wash with me. We've ALWAYS been isolated and ALWAYS had little money pouring in so to me you can't use that as an excuse.
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Post by VT Karen on Aug 9, 2024 17:40:39 GMT -5
Tell me again what you think the issue is? IDK what the issue is (maybe coaching?) but your excuse that we're isolated with not a lot of money pouring in does not wash with me. We've ALWAYS been isolated and ALWAYS had little money pouring in so to me you can't use that as an excuse. I don't think I'm giving excuses but rather actual facts. The NCAA has changed a lot with conference alignment going from P5 to P4. Women's volleyball has becoming increasingly popular from the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. Being a collegiate athlete now has real monetary value for the athletes that go beyond getting you education paid for. The majority of the best and most highly recruited athletes will want to maximize their opportunities to go to school's with 1st class facilities, great coaching and of course great academics. I'm sure there are top athletes want to go to schools located within great college towns as well. That's why I think that the money and isolation are major factors that seem to be increasing as the days go by. Because of these woes, I don't think it is entirely out of the question that one day Hawaii may have to become a DII school. If your major gripe is the coaching, I also don't think that it's the greatest. Though, it's what Hawaii has at the moment and I think they do well with what they have.
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Post by noblesol on Aug 9, 2024 17:42:42 GMT -5
The lack of resources issue is linked to the falling fortunes of UH Manoa football. According to College Factual, it consumes about one-fourth of the athletic budget and runs a budget deficit of about $2 million. In addition, WBB, MBB, and Baseball all run deficits collectively in the millions. The programs that elevate the Tier-1 schools sink the Manoa ship.
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Post by VT Karen on Aug 9, 2024 17:44:28 GMT -5
The lack of resources issue is linked to the falling fortunes of UH Manoa football. According to College Factual, it consumes about one-fourth of the athletic budget and runs a budget deficit of about $2 million. In addition, WBB, MBB, and Baseball all run deficits collectively in the millions. The programs that elevate the Tier-1 schools sink the Manoa ship. 100% That small high school looking stadium isn't going to attract top talent as far as players or coaches.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Aug 9, 2024 17:44:52 GMT -5
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Post by hapaguy on Aug 9, 2024 17:48:29 GMT -5
IDK what the issue is (maybe coaching?) but your excuse that we're isolated with not a lot of money pouring in does not wash with me. We've ALWAYS been isolated and ALWAYS had little money pouring in so to me you can't use that as an excuse. I don't think I'm giving excuses but rather actual facts. The NCAA has changed a lot with conference alignment going from P5 to P4. Women's volleyball has becoming increasingly popular from the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. Being a collegiate athlete now has real monetary value for the athletes that go beyond getting you education paid for. The majority of the best and most highly recruited athletes will want to maximize their opportunities to go to school's with 1st class facilities, great coaching and of course great academics. I'm sure there are top athletes want to go to schools located within great college towns as well. That's why I think that the money and isolation are major factors that seem to be increasing as the days go by. If your major gripe is the coaching, I also don't think that it's the greatest. Though, it's what Hawaii has at the moment and I think they do well with what they have. Still not buying what you're selling. We have one of the top venues for volleyball: Stan Sheriff Center, we have a brand new weight/training facility, a fan base that is one of the top fan bases in the country, and a coach that's played at the highest level (Olympic Silver Medal). It can't be only about (NIL) money. Something else has to be going on. Either Robyn and her coaching staff are lazy recruiters - as some have mentioned on here, or her coaching style is not one that players want to play for. Like I said, we will have to agree to disagree.
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Post by VT Karen on Aug 9, 2024 17:49:26 GMT -5
I don't think I'm giving excuses but rather actual facts. The NCAA has changed a lot with conference alignment going from P5 to P4. Women's volleyball has becoming increasingly popular from the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. Being a collegiate athlete now has real monetary value for the athletes that go beyond getting you education paid for. The majority of the best and most highly recruited athletes will want to maximize their opportunities to go to school's with 1st class facilities, great coaching and of course great academics. I'm sure there are top athletes want to go to schools located within great college towns as well. That's why I think that the money and isolation are major factors that seem to be increasing as the days go by. If your major gripe is the coaching, I also don't think that it's the greatest. Though, it's what Hawaii has at the moment and I think they do well with what they have. Still not buying what you're selling. We have one of the top venues for volleyball: Stan Sheriff Center, we have a brand new weight/training facility, a fan base that is one of the top fan bases in the country, and a coach that's played at the highest level (Olympic Silver Medal). It can't be only about (NIL) money. Something else has to be going on. Either Robyn and her coaching staff are lazy recruiters - as some have mentioned on here, or her coaching style is not one that players want to play for. Like I said, we will have to agree to disagree. Okay, I hope you enjoy the season!
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Post by hapaguy on Aug 9, 2024 17:49:36 GMT -5
The lack of resources issue is linked to the falling fortunes of UH Manoa football. According to College Factual, it consumes about one-fourth of the athletic budget and runs a budget deficit of about $2 million. In addition, WBB, MBB, and Baseball all run deficits collectively in the millions. The programs that elevate the Tier-1 schools sink the Manoa ship. 100% That small high school looking stadium isn't going to attract top talent as far as players or coaches. I agree with you on that point BUT Timmy has still been able to recruit good players.
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Post by VT Karen on Aug 9, 2024 17:50:42 GMT -5
100% That small high school looking stadium isn't going to attract top talent as far as players or coaches. I agree with you on that point BUT Timmy has still been able to recruit good players. Great! Hopefully that can translate to some big wins and some $$$.
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Post by hapaguy on Aug 9, 2024 17:51:08 GMT -5
Still not buying what you're selling. We have one of the top venues for volleyball: Stan Sheriff Center, we have a brand new weight/training facility, a fan base that is one of the top fan bases in the country, and a coach that's played at the highest level (Olympic Silver Medal). It can't be only about (NIL) money. Something else has to be going on. Either Robyn and her coaching staff are lazy recruiters - as some have mentioned on here, or her coaching style is not one that players want to play for. Like I said, we will have to agree to disagree. Okay, I hope you enjoy the season! I'm forever hopeful! I still haven't turned in my season tickets....yet....
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Post by VT Karen on Aug 9, 2024 17:53:44 GMT -5
Okay, I hope you enjoy the season! I'm forever hopeful! I still haven't turned in my season tickets....yet.... Me too! Though I don't purchase season tickets lol
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