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Post by HawaiiVB on Sept 13, 2024 1:23:09 GMT -5
I think the men's team will be a new thing because they will have an expansion of 13.5 full scholarships to give instead of 4.5 scholies to be broken up into halves. On the women's side, the smalls will be on full ride since for now, when it is adopted, the walk-on players are not a thing. ...if it is adopted. I’m going to bet it will be. The way some schools are talking, they are already recruiting for it. |
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 13, 2024 1:51:38 GMT -5
I’m going to bet it will be. The way some schools are talking, they are already recruiting for it. I feel like I read something about program’s revenue sharing will contribute to scholarships now? If that’s the case even a percentage of what programs already make on top of what’s already allocated to each program should be helpful. Tbh if I were an AD I would be working tirelessly to improve spectator turnout and general fan support vs having my legacy be the Athletic Director that cut programs because I didn’t want to get creative and do some heavy lifting to keep all my programs around. |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 13, 2024 1:55:54 GMT -5
I’m going to bet it will be. The way some schools are talking, they are already recruiting for it. Wait why would it be 13.5 for men and not 18? what am I missing? |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 13, 2024 1:59:16 GMT -5
san diego beating ranked BYU good for RPI? It should be a good boost, ignore that poster being sarcastic. Looks like Hawaii scheduled pretty favorably this season. Honestly the only bust I see on the roster is Oregon state Pepperdine will compete, SMU is a GOLDMINE win, If they keep it up, easy top 16 win if not top ten San diego will get up there if they play like they did today and grit it Baylor is baylor texas duh UNLV was not awful last year, so idk how they will do this year, dont know enough about their roster the big west will drag us down, it always does, and our goal is to always win, but take care of business, get a maybe sneak win against baylor, and drop no more than 2 in the big west, we should be set. wont be squeezing okole like last couple years |
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Post by cosmo on Sept 13, 2024 2:37:44 GMT -5
I’m going to bet it will be. The way some schools are talking, they are already recruiting for it. Wait why would it be 13.5 for men and not 18? what am I missing? The 4.5 that was already there. The 13.5 is what's being added, 18 is the total |
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Post by noblesol on Sept 13, 2024 3:24:03 GMT -5
I’m going to bet it will be. The way some schools are talking, they are already recruiting for it. I feel like I read something about program’s revenue sharing will contribute to scholarships now? If that’s the case even a percentage of what programs already make on top of what’s already allocated to each program should be helpful. Tbh if I were an AD I would be working tirelessly to improve spectator turnout and general fan support vs having my legacy be the Athletic Director that cut programs because I didn’t want to get creative and do some heavy lifting to keep all my programs around. There is no revenue sharing going on now. There can't be unless there is an approved settlement, and that doesn't exist yet. The proposed House settlement as written is binding on P4 for revenue sharing while for the non-P4 it's elective. For the non-P4, inclusive of UH Manoa, the House settlement does not bind them to revenue sharing. But if they were to elect it, they may have the option of roster caps and additional scholarships to offer — if they can fund it. Likely they'd explore electing to in some of their revenue sports, but maybe not all of them. What that could mean for MVB and WVB is roster caps and scholarships up to 18, if they could swing it financially and get University and State approval to commit to it for the period of the House settlement — currently for ten years. But again, there is no settlement yet. The final outcome isn't yet known for P4, non-P4, and UH Manoa. And nothing is funded. UH Manoa MVB and WVB can't be issuing guarantees to additional recruits beyond the 4.5 scholarships for MVB and 12 for WVB. The programs at this point can only speculate about what they'd do if they get revenue sharing for their programs with roster caps and additional scholarships. As for the current status of the House settlement, it's still under Judge Wilken's review with all the involved parties, and as of week ago it hit a major snag over treatment of NIL and other details. The NCAA position seemed to be 'dealbreaker', with some muttering about how the whole settlement could be scuttled and instead proceed to trial. If that happens, throw all the current proposals about revenue sharing, NIL, roster caps and change to scholarships, into the dumpster. ------------ www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/09/06/house-v-ncaa-settlement-on-hold/"Uh, not so fast. Back in February, a federal judge in Tennessee granted a preliminary injunction that barred the NCAA from punishing boosters or athletes for discussing NIL deals during the recruiting process. A week later, the NCAA announced it would pause all investigations — and not start any new ones — of whether boosters or NIL collectives had broken recruiting rules. So if the NCAA did want to get back in the enforcement game, as Kilaru suggested, there are at least two state attorneys general who would like a word. Wilken is not opposed to a settlement, even if she did say the word “trial” while discussing the possible next steps. All of this, as it stands, is complicated, and there is no clear end in sight. But what’s clear, given Kilaru’s transparent comments about settling (or not) without specific ways to neuter collectives, is that the ball is squarely in the NCAA’s court. The rest of the college sports world can only wait to see what it does with it." -------------- www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/ncaa-house-settlement-not-approved-faces-fire-in-hearing/ar-AA1q5h7u9/05/2024 "Whether the parties can reach a deal remains to be seen. Kilaru repeatedly told Wilken that his client agreed to a deal as is and is not necessarily willing to move forward with another deal, which presumably would necessitate making more concessions on NIL in order to satisfy Wilken. He also said the NCAA isn't interested in settling only one of the cases-they'll either settle all three or none. If the parties can't agree on a new deal, Wilken would lift her stay on the three cases and the litigation would resume. And college sports, which is still grappling with athletes as employee legal challenges, would return to a heavily litigious environment for years to come. Buckle up." |
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on Sept 13, 2024 3:34:35 GMT -5
UH volleyball has a huge fan base and an active alumni association. I can't see how 6 additional scholarships and 1 additional assistant coach can't be covered by donations and fundraising. Sure UH have a large fan base and generous donors but I don’t think these donors are millionaire or super rich folks. 6 additional scholarships is a lot of money. That is at least $100,000 additional money they need to find. Money is needed for the operation of the program and to fund other important part of making this program a success. Having a large roster of scholarship players does not equal success. If 2,500 fans pledged to donate 25 cents per Ace, & using last year's total of 167 aces, that's $104,375
So it's possible to get the amount in the aggregate.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 13, 2024 3:38:07 GMT -5
Wait why would it be 13.5 for men and not 18? what am I missing? The 4.5 that was already there. The 13.5 is what's being added, 18 is the total Ahhh ok. They meant adding 13.5 bit 13.5 total Makes sense |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 13, 2024 3:39:11 GMT -5
This is gonna change the game for Hawai’i in the men’s side.
Hawaii is winning some major recruiting wars. Now that they can offer all 18 players we’re gonna get some big time players.
It’s gonna be great
It won’t benefit the women’s side as much, but girl, places like Texas and Nebraska are gonna devour the recruits with this
Only downside is they may overrecruit, causing even more of a log jam
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Post by noblesol on Sept 13, 2024 3:42:40 GMT -5
Sure UH have a large fan base and generous donors but I don’t think these donors are millionaire or super rich folks. 6 additional scholarships is a lot of money. That is at least $100,000 additional money they need to find. Money is needed for the operation of the program and to fund other important part of making this program a success. Having a large roster of scholarship players does not equal success. If 2,500 fans pledged to donate 25 cents per Ace, & using last year's total of 167 aces, that's $104,375
So it's possible to get the amount in the aggregate.
UH Manoa out-of-state tuition: $34,218 www.bing.com/search?q=how+much+is+out+of+state+tuition+at+university+of+hawaiiSo, one full out-of-state scholarship for four years = 4*$35k = $140k. Six additional four-year out-state-scholarships requires ~ $840,000 in committed and approved funding. |
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Post by noblesol on Sept 13, 2024 3:48:31 GMT -5
This is gonna change the game for Hawai’i in the men’s side. Hawaii is winning some major recruiting wars. Now that they can offer all 18 players we’re gonna get some big time players. It’s gonna be great It won’t benefit the women’s side as much, but girl, places like Texas and Nebraska are gonna devour the recruits with this Only downside is they may overrecruit, causing even more of a log jam It won't change anything if the current House settlement isn't approved. Nothing changes if it is approved, until UH Manoa decides how to proceed under the settlement — what can they get the University and State to commit to funding for the next ten years. It's ok to speculate about what might be, but don't conflate speculation with the reality — nothing new has been approved or funded. |
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Post by thor on Sept 13, 2024 4:27:58 GMT -5
If 2,500 fans pledged to donate 25 cents per Ace, & using last year's total of 167 aces, that's $104,375
So it's possible to get the amount in the aggregate.
UH Manoa out-of-state tuition: $34,218 www.bing.com/search?q=how+much+is+out+of+state+tuition+at+university+of+hawaiiSo, one full out-of-state scholarship for four years = 4*$35k = $140k. Six additional four-year out-state-scholarships requires ~ $840,000 in committed and approved funding. I read that collegiate athletes from outside Hawai’i are charged at the in state tuition rate. |
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Post by noblesol on Sept 13, 2024 5:13:16 GMT -5
I read that collegiate athletes from outside Hawai’i are charged at the in state tuition rate. Using $12.2k/year for in-state tuition and fees — manoa.hawaii.edu/fas/cost/2023-2024-cost-of-attendance/- $73.2k/year to fund an additional six scholarships. - $732k funding commitment required to fund an additional six scholarships over the ten year life of the House settlement with no annual inflation to tuition. - $839k funding commitment required to fund an additional six scholarships over the ten year life of the House settlement with 3% annual inflation to tuition. |
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Post by toonscivb on Sept 13, 2024 5:40:13 GMT -5
Shout out to our opponents so far who have been coming in clutch with upsetting teams left and right!
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 13, 2024 13:21:31 GMT -5
This is gonna change the game for Hawai’i in the men’s side. Hawaii is winning some major recruiting wars. Now that they can offer all 18 players we’re gonna get some big time players. It’s gonna be great It won’t benefit the women’s side as much, but girl, places like Texas and Nebraska are gonna devour the recruits with this Only downside is they may overrecruit, causing even more of a log jam It won't change anything if the current House settlement isn't approved. Nothing changes if it is approved, until UH Manoa decides how to proceed under the settlement — what can they get the University and State to commit to funding for the next ten years. It's ok to speculate about what might be, but don't conflate speculation with the reality — nothing new has been approved or funded. Are you under the impression that it won’t be approved? Seems like most programs are in preparation for this to be a done deal and covering their bases so they’re not caught flat footed. I would imagine there have been department meetings discussing preparations for this new era of athletics. |
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