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Post by VBallLife on Jun 11, 2024 19:18:23 GMT -5
No there is not - it is a big advantage having the setter there for 8 months before she plays a match - big, big difference - how many reps and practices has she gotten with her teammates before a real season even starts - this is not a young or inexperienced team At a super critical position it is. Our to-be setter has played precisely 0 collegiate matches that count. That is the definition of inexperienced. True. But nor did Reilly or Swindle until they did.
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Post by kevinmalone on Jun 11, 2024 20:42:11 GMT -5
No there is not - it is a big advantage having the setter there for 8 months before she plays a match - big, big difference - how many reps and practices has she gotten with her teammates before a real season even starts - this is not a young or inexperienced team At a super critical position it is. Our to-be setter has played precisely 0 collegiate matches that count. That is the definition of inexperienced. But has only set team USA against the worlds best teams over the last two summers - ask any player how good the U21 team was that they lost to - she has more than enough big match experience
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Post by photos1 on Jun 11, 2024 22:25:52 GMT -5
At a super critical position it is. Our to-be setter has played precisely 0 collegiate matches that count. That is the definition of inexperienced. But has only set team USA against the worlds best teams over the last two summers - ask any player how good the U21 team was that they lost to - she has more than enough big match experience Really? I thought Flynn and Fuerbringer were the two setters on that U21 team that won the world championship.
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Post by jwvolley on Jun 11, 2024 22:30:31 GMT -5
But has only set team USA against the worlds best teams over the last two summers - ask any player how good the U21 team was that they lost to - she has more than enough big match experience Really? I thought Flynn and Fuerbringer were the two setters on that U21 team that won the world championship. Incorrect, that was the U19 team.
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Post by kevinmalone on Jun 12, 2024 8:28:51 GMT -5
But has only set team USA against the worlds best teams over the last two summers - ask any player how good the U21 team was that they lost to - she has more than enough big match experience Really? I thought Flynn and Fuerbringer were the two setters on that U21 team that won the world championship. usavolleyball.org/athlete/izzy-starck/
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Post by jagdpanther on Jun 12, 2024 19:54:49 GMT -5
At a super critical position it is. Our to-be setter has played precisely 0 collegiate matches that count. That is the definition of inexperienced. But has only set team USA against the worlds best teams over the last two summers - ask any player how good the U21 team was that they lost to - she has more than enough big match experience Which is still not playing with these teammates on this team. I mean, this is basic stuff. All other things equal, do you want a freshman or a senior at a position? Experience counts. Starck doesn't have it... yet. And that's just one position.
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Post by vb on Jun 12, 2024 20:21:02 GMT -5
Need I remind everybody that a three time all American setter comes to Penn State, quite frankly, stunk up the gym! I think it’s fair to say everybody was expecting more.
Realistically, what’s the expectation of a freshman setter With very limited experience, relatively speaking
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Post by gazelle1 on Jun 12, 2024 20:39:15 GMT -5
But has only set team USA against the worlds best teams over the last two summers - ask any player how good the U21 team was that they lost to - she has more than enough big match experience Which is still not playing with these teammates on this team. I mean, this is basic stuff. All other things equal, do you want a freshman or a senior at a position? Experience counts. Starck doesn't have it... yet. And that's just one position. Starck looks like a good athlete, and she may become a great college player, but we just don't know yet. It is rare for a true freshman to come in and play great on day 1. For example, Ella Swindle at Texas struggled early in the season last year. Just go back and watch some of the early Texas matches from last year. She got better as the year went on though, and she looked good in the tournament. That is not a criticism of Swindle. Most freshmen struggle to adjust to the speed and power of the college game. Bergen Reilly at Nebraska was the rare exception who was good right out of the gate. That is due to the fact that she had lots of experience playing above her age, including in a 2022 tournament with the US women's national team where, as a 17 yr old, she played with and against adult, professional players who were on average 10-15 years older than her. That kind of experience is almost unheard of, and likely had a lot to do with why she performed so well at the college level on day 1. Maybe Starck will be amazing right from the start. However, I think it is more likely that she will need time to adjust to the college game, and there will likely be some early season struggles. The good news is that I think Penn State will be much better at the end of the year then at the beginning. In addition to Starck, PSU added some other players who could be really good. I could see PSU being a real force come tournament time.
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Post by graduatestudent on Jun 12, 2024 21:10:31 GMT -5
I’m but a lowly fan but I have attended all of the public events women’s volleyball had over the spring (both Pitt matches and the open scrimmage) and what I will say is I think chemistry looks better with this group than last year’s group. I also think that Starck comes in as a more well-rounded athlete than Mac did last year, especially with her mobility and her ability to set on the run. Mac had a better connection with the outsides but I think Izzy had a better connection with the right side and middle (I think Trammel will have a special year with Izzy based on the spring)
Now, is she the seasoned setter that will give her hitters tons of solo block opportunities? Probably not but she can put up a pretty set and let her hitters bang on some balls. And I think that was lacking a bit last year. If the ball was out of system, the set could be pretty or god awful. I also noticed a difference in the overall outlook of the staff this year compared to other years, they seem to be more positive and high on this team. But that’s from an outsider’s perspective from the ground here at Happy Valley.
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Post by kevinmalone on Jun 12, 2024 22:02:15 GMT -5
But has only set team USA against the worlds best teams over the last two summers - ask any player how good the U21 team was that they lost to - she has more than enough big match experience Which is still not playing with these teammates on this team. I mean, this is basic stuff. All other things equal, do you want a freshman or a senior at a position? Experience counts. Starck doesn't have it... yet. And that's just one position. 1. She has played with and trained for 8 months 2. It is the only position where a freshmen may start 3. Would you rather have an average senior or a superstar freemen 4. Being good counts - see Texas and Nebraska last year
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Post by gazelle1 on Jun 13, 2024 1:18:42 GMT -5
Which is still not playing with these teammates on this team. I mean, this is basic stuff. All other things equal, do you want a freshman or a senior at a position? Experience counts. Starck doesn't have it... yet. And that's just one position. 1. She has played with and trained for 8 months 2. It is the only position where a freshmen may start 3. Would you rather have an average senior or a superstar freemen 4. Being good counts - see Texas and Nebraska last year An "average" senior? Podraza was a former Big Ten setter of the year prior to coming to Penn State. This Spring she played a lot for her Pro Volleyball Federation team. You are not playing in the pros if you are just "average". Let's see Starck play in some real college matches before we label her a superstar.
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Post by kevinmalone on Jun 13, 2024 10:05:21 GMT -5
1. She has played with and trained for 8 months 2. It is the only position where a freshmen may start 3. Would you rather have an average senior or a superstar freemen 4. Being good counts - see Texas and Nebraska last year An "average" senior? Podraza was a former Big Ten setter of the year prior to coming to Penn State. This Spring she played a lot for her Pro Volleyball Federation team. You are not playing in the pros if you are just "average". Let's see Starck play in some real college matches before we label her a superstar. That wasn't a shot at Podraza that was a comment on having any senior setter who has experience or a freshmen setter who some consider the #1 recruit and HAS played in big matches on the international scene against professionals and has had the opportunity to Train and Compete with her teammates for the last 8 months - look at it this way if Starck got there in July or August she would be significantly better in December - now she has gotten all that training from January through May with a foreign trip where they once again played against professionals - she already has like 6-8 matches under her belt running this team which significantly prepares her to be more than ready for the start of the season in August
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Post by digs on Jun 13, 2024 10:10:20 GMT -5
Can’t predict the future but have seen a ton of Izzy Starck in juniors and she is an absolute dawg and a superior athlete. My kinda player. As competitive as she is, I expect her to assimilate to D1 nicely (and quickly.)
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Post by chenny11 on Jun 13, 2024 18:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by dc155 on Jun 13, 2024 18:15:21 GMT -5
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