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Post by chibadgerfan on Dec 12, 2023 21:57:30 GMT -5
I think we’re going to be OK, as one of CC, Booth, Anna, and Devyn is going to have to sit or change positions. Could one of those end up at OH2 with Frank as OH1? Is TSC ready to step in to fill TTA’s shoes next year? We’ve got some depth coming in as freshmen, so I’m pretty sure we’re going to be OK, even if one of the 4 sees the writing on the wall for the 2024 5-1 and decides it’s time to go pro. I can’t see any immediate need for a transfer in 2024, but 2025 is another story after we lose a TON of talent. I have no idea on this but just wondering, do we try to bring in a senior/grad setter next year to provide some depth with Charlie? I also don’t think it’ll happen but with our stacked middle and opposite positions next year, I wonder if we’d be successful running a 6-2 one more season with Charlie and another setter. We are big and physical with a lot of weapons across the front and I wonder if Hammill stayed one more year or we got another setter if that would give the CC/Booth/Smrek/Devyn group one more year together to continue building what we have now. I think the immediate transfer portal need would be for an OH to replace TTA. Of course Sheffield could juggle things around and try someone that’s already on the roster at OH, but if there is a better option available in the portal it seems like that’s what Sheffield would do. For example he could have used the roster for the second MB position this year, but Booth became available and clearly he made the right move by inviting her on board. I could also imagine, if an additional scholarship player left, Sheffield getting an experienced setter and running the 6-2 again next year, so as to keep his big block intact for Smrek’s last year, esp. if he picked up a tall OH.
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Post by PeoriaBucky on Dec 12, 2023 22:38:01 GMT -5
I think the reason the transfer portal gets so much hate is because it's a system where the rich get richer. It's good to be the king. And then once you're king (Nebraska), you get the added benefit of being able to recruit any high school talent you want, and can claim moral superiority when you bring in more talent via recruiting rather than transfers.
This is similar to my beef with coaches who win coach of the year when they have waaaaaay more talent than 95% of the rest of the field. Personally I think COY awards should go to coaches who have done more with less, and exceeded expectations the most.
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Post by savannahbadger on Dec 13, 2023 6:14:18 GMT -5
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Post by savannahbadger on Dec 13, 2023 6:31:42 GMT -5
I have no idea on this but just wondering, do we try to bring in a senior/grad setter next year to provide some depth with Charlie? If MJ stayed, that might solve the problem of having to sit one of the group of CC/CB/AS/DR, but I don’t think she’s coming back. I’d agree that of all the positions, setter is the one we’re thinnest at, but who is behind MJ & Izzy this year? Reading an article about Morgan Van Wie’s commitment, it notes Sheff was (before the walk-on’s commitment) looking for depth, but maybe that problem is now solved? It also mentioned going after some other top players who have since committed elsewhere, so he must have a scholarship in his back pocket. badgerextra.com/sports/volleyball/wisconsin-volleyball-morgan-van-wie-commitment/article_eed9eb52-4aaf-11ee-805e-1360744027b6.html
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Post by bballin on Dec 13, 2023 8:37:12 GMT -5
Texas still recruits high schoolers. So they're developing players and a culture
Wisconsin is running pro style, trade volleyball these days.... not a fan of that. Super seniors every season packed with 23 year olds... waivers here, waivers there. They'll do it again happily in 24. Even their fans are happily poaching talent they see themselves playing against? Not much different than pro ball mentality to me.
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Post by pull3 on Dec 13, 2023 8:39:47 GMT -5
Texas still recruits high schoolers. So they're developing players and a culture Wisconsin is running pro style, trade volleyball these days.... not a fan of that. Super seniors every season packed with 23 year olds... waivers here, waivers there. They'll do it again happily in 24. Even their fans are happily poaching talent they see themselves playing against? Not much different than pro ball mentality to me.
fact check: 6 incoming freshmen in 2024. Not a fan of fake news.
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Post by savannahbadger on Dec 13, 2023 8:49:38 GMT -5
waivers here, waivers there. Waivers? I don’t know of anyone using a waiver to get more eligibility, unless you’re complaining about Texas now?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 9:09:07 GMT -5
As far as volleyball goes NIL and subsequent transfer circus was created so Nebraska couldn't dominate.
I mean what teams can compete with a midnight John Cook phone call to a respective recruit. A cant miss offer including world class volleyball facilities and the chance to play with the other topmost positional talents in ones class.
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Post by knapplc on Dec 13, 2023 9:21:20 GMT -5
I mean what teams can compete with a midnight John Cook phone call to a respective recruit. A cant miss offer including world class volleyball facilities and the chance to play with the other topmost positional talents in ones class. Say more things like this.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 13, 2023 9:24:53 GMT -5
As far as volleyball goes NIL and subsequent transfer circus was created so Nebraska couldn't dominate. I mean what teams can compete with a midnight John Cook phone call to a respective recruit. A cant miss offer including world class volleyball facilities and the chance to play with the other topmost positional talents in ones class. Texas and Stanford. Outside of that, no one really. Not consistently. The Stanford/Nebraska recruiting paradigm is so different it makes it difficult to compare. I’d say Nebraska wins the lion’s share of recruiting battles against Texas, but I wouldn’t say it’s 100%. They’re tough to beat in recruiting. No doubt about it. But I’d also say it’s not like Nebraska has all these natural recruiting advantages. Whatever recruiting advantages they possess are derived from an amazingly successful development program driven by Pettitt’s initial hard work, a fan base that is screaming for success that they can hang a state wide identity on, and an intense passion that’s unmatched. I can’t get bitter about that. Those are earned advantages. It’s not Nebraska’s fault if no one equals what the Nebraska fan base is bringing to their program.
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Post by volleyball303 on Dec 13, 2023 9:51:42 GMT -5
No Pitt transfers? Ummm... Just curious who Pitt has this year as transfers. I know Dalton was at WSU. But who else?
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Post by katn on Dec 13, 2023 9:54:31 GMT -5
No Pitt transfers? Ummm... Just curious who Pitt has this year as transfers. I know Dalton was at WSU. But who else? emma monks, michigan state
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Post by bonetalks on Dec 13, 2023 9:55:55 GMT -5
No Pitt transfers? Ummm... Just curious who Pitt has this year as transfers. I know Dalton was at WSU. But who else? Emma Monks-MSU Bre Kelley- Florida Idk if there’s more.
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Post by katn on Dec 13, 2023 9:56:12 GMT -5
No Pitt transfers? Ummm... Just curious who Pitt has this year as transfers. I know Dalton was at WSU. But who else? bre kelley, florida...she's injured
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Post by mibadger on Dec 13, 2023 9:58:16 GMT -5
Texas still recruits high schoolers. So they're developing players and a culture Wisconsin is running pro style, trade volleyball these days.... not a fan of that. Super seniors every season packed with 23 year olds... waivers here, waivers there. They'll do it again happily in 24. Even their fans are happily poaching talent they see themselves playing against? Not much different than pro ball mentality to me. This is a lazy and uninformed take. Are you talking about the Covid waiver that was available to every ncaa athlete? Or injury waivers that could potentially grant an athlete a second redshirt year because of a season ending injury early on and that requires extensive proof. Stop throwing things like waivers and poaching around unless you actually have a valid thing to add and go back to yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off your lawn. Wisconsin has a bunch of talented incoming freshman coming after this year. TTA has been the only 1 and done grad transfer. Booth, CC, and Franklin will all end up playing here 3 years unless they choose to transfer again as grad students(this could change quickly, see below) which is completely in their rights. Court case decision coming as soon as today that could remove the 1 transfer and sitting out limitation completely. sports.yahoo.com/lawsuit-aims-to-eliminate-all-ncaa-transfer-restrictions-while-some-are-pushing-for-a-stricter-policy-211746802.html
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